Samsung refutes rumors about in-house development of CPU cores

07 March 2023
The company will keep using the ARM technology.

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  • 24 Nov 2023

AnonD-1082209, 10 Mar 2023"No it's not good and you know that, you're ... morejust waiting for the release of soc Exynos 2400 (xclipse 940/ amd Rdna 3) Exynos 1480 (Xclipse 530/Rdna 2) Exynos 1430 (Rdna 2 and Rdna 3)

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    AnonD-1082209, 10 Mar 2023"No it's not good and you know that, you're ... moreAdreno perform same level Rtx 1000 series. Search google, hope Exynos 2400 and Exynos 1480, 1430 perfect better rumor used 4LPP+ (It's not exciting, Qualcomm's SoC competition is continuous) Samsung just collaborates with AMD for just 1 product. AMD is reportedly making an Arm-based SoC PC in 2025, if that really happens it will be interesting. (Amd Arm K12 project stopped in 2017) Adreno is also a former AMD product sold to Qualcomm

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      • 10 Mar 2023

      UltraHD, 09 Mar 2023No it's not good and you know that, you're just t... more"No it's not good and you know that, you're just trolling and i keep falling for it. I'm done with this, everybody knows the truth, tests proved etc."
      It is good, you're trolling here and being in denial with actual facts
      Why S22 Exynos is better?
      Geekbench scores are higher, single-core and Multicore are higher, better compute results, better battery efficiency proved by a lot of draining tests, better sustained performance, maintain it's peak performance for longer time, better DLSR and HDR in cameras, the GPU is strong enough and beat the Qualcomm 8 gen 2 in RTX.
      We all now that Exynos is good.
      You're done with yourself trying to avoid the reality.

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        • 10 Mar 2023

        AnonD-1037771, 10 Mar 2023Every time someone says anything bad about Exynos, you are ... more"Every time someone says anything bad about Exynos, you are always the ONLY ONE defending it ! Go back to the factory and start assembling some phones you payed troll !
        While you are the only one complaining, every single Samsung user from Europe is happy AF including myself! I especially bought a Snapdragon Samsung phone and guess what: No overheating. Phone feels actually cold to the touch. My old phone could fry some eggs on it only by turning on the camera - Exynos garbage."
        And when every user says about some good from Exynos, you're the only complaining about it.
        Go back to try the latest Exynos chipsets, before speak.
        Every single Samsung user isn't happy, with the new trend, and for your information Europeans enjoy Exynos, and Exynos could come back again in the S24 series.
        My Galaxy S phones powered with Exynos still performing well, excellent, don't overheat, rus demanding games and apps smoothly.
        Qualcomm, Mediate, and Tensor Garbage.
        Exynos is excellent, and isn't only my opinion, there are a lot of users, tests and benchmarks that prove it.
        Who's the troll now, top being a troll a calling someone a troll only because you dislike the truth being told.

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          • 10 Mar 2023

          AnonD-1082209, 09 Mar 2023Exynos is a good component.Every time someone says anything bad about Exynos, you are always the ONLY ONE defending it ! Go back to the factory and start assembling some phones you payed troll !
          While you are the only one complaining, every single Samsung user from Europe is happy AF including myself! I especially bought a Snapdragon Samsung phone and guess what: No overheating. Phone feels actually cold to the touch. My old phone could fry some eggs on it only by turning on the camera - Exynos garbage.

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            • 10 Mar 2023

            Anonymous, 07 Mar 2023SD card WILL slow down your phone and cause it to become un... moreThe SD card is used for STORING DATA, not for running apps from it. This isn't 2010 you geek. Nobody does that anymore.
            The most intense thing that you can probably do with the SD card is maybe watch an 8k video from it. But even then, you won't notice any lag or speed issues. Why? Because there are no 8k displays on smartphones, so you will see the video in 2K or even FHD, depending on your phone. Only Sony has 4k displays on their smartphones.
            GoPro, professional video cameras and DSLR cameras - they ALL use the SD card - The SD card is actually thriving !
            Where is the swappable microSSD for smartphones? Nobody invented it yet , so stay down , you're embarrassing yourself you goofy anon.
            Now run along and send your data to the spying cloud service that still use ancient tapes.

              AnonD-1082209, 09 Mar 2023"I'm from Europe and for me SD S22 doesn't e... moreNo it's not good and you know that, you're just trolling and i keep falling for it. I'm done with this, everybody knows the truth, tests proved etc.

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                • 09 Mar 2023

                Kangal, 09 Mar 2023Kind of. The Exynos division did not close. They still mak... more"Their high-end division stopped making it for Samsung, but now they deliver it to Google/Pixel. Whilst making "custom cores"
                They will come back next year with the Exynos 2400 and the S24 series.

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                  • 09 Mar 2023

                  SuperSpruce, 08 Mar 2023The problem is not that they want to make their own stuff, ... moreExynos is a good component.

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                    • 09 Mar 2023

                    UltraHD, 08 Mar 2023I'm from Europe and for me SD S22 doesn't exist. ... more"I'm from Europe and for me SD S22 doesn't exist. I don't care for US/rest having SD, we had exynos and it was BAD. S23 is a huge improvement in every way, especially battery life & perfomance."
                    Exynos on the S22 was and still is GOOD,. the S23 isn't a huge improvement except battery and some performance, people who have the S22 SD will notice it much more than those people with Exynos variants.
                    My Galaxy S powered with Exynos doesn't get hot scrolling in Instagram.

                      ThunderCrackR, 08 Mar 2023Am I the only one reading it as: it's not true we star... moreKind of.
                      The Exynos division did not close. They still make heaps of these for their low-end and midrange stuff. Their high-end division stopped making it for Samsung, but now they deliver it to Google/Pixel. Whilst making "custom cores" such as the Mongoose, this entire division was closed down back in 2019 or so. Most of the talent moved to other divisions (ie Working on implementing/optimising Stock Cores from ARM Cortex to their silicon), some of them were made redundant (ie Fired), and some simply quit to work for other companies.

                      Mongoose Cores were good.
                      What you need to remember, is that they are designed based on older ARM cores, so by the time they are released they are somewhat "obsolete". Still the custom work that Samsung put into them still kept them competitive. It's been Samsung's subpar lithography that's been keeping it behind.

                      Example, the Mongoose v1 was in the works for a couple years. There were no 64bit ARM cores around. The Cortex-A57 was announced already, but that was inefficient, and aimed at servers. The M-v1 built upon it and made huge advancements. By the time we got the M-v1, the Cortex-A72 was released which saw huge architectural improvements. This meant the M-v1 didn't dominate the market like it was supposed to. And in more unfortunate news, Qualcomm had done the same thing, and released their Kryo-1000 custom core, which was slightly better.

                      By the time, we got the Exynos 990, which had the last chipset M-v5, it was in Early 2020 competing against Cortex-A77 and the Cortex-A77+. Yet, it barely had the updated computational maths from the Cortex-A75 and M-v4. Then there was the subpar lithography. It was a losing match against the HiSilicon Kirin 9000, MediaTek Dimensity 1000, Qualcomm Snapdragon 865, and QSD 870.

                      I'm sad that we lost Tegra, Kryo, and Mongoose. Now there's only stock cores. Which means a big probability that after 2024, we will plateau in this field. Not unless another competitor emerges with something innovative. While all eyes are on Qualcomm with their Nuvia-cores, I really don't have much hope for it. Back in 2019 it would've been competitive, but in 2025, it probably won't be dominating stock cores like the Cortex-A730 and the Cortex-X4, whilst it likely is going to be trounced by Apple's A17 and M3 chips (let alone their updated variants).

                        Am I the only one reading it as: it's not true we started hiring now, we've been constantly hiring for a while?

                          UltraHD, 07 Mar 2023Oh my f****** God!!! Just stick with the f***** snapdragon ... moreThe problem is not that they want to make their own stuff, it's that they want to use their objectively worse components in top of the line products.

                            AnonD-1082209, 08 Mar 2023"Why are you trolling tho? S22 was a huge disappointme... moreI'm from Europe and for me SD S22 doesn't exist. I don't care for US/rest having SD, we had exynos and it was BAD. S23 is a huge improvement in every way, especially battery life & perfomance.
                            People here had huge complaints about how their S22 gets hot after scrolling thru f****** instagram, let alone playing a game, they also complained how the phone was laggy all the time, i tested some of S22 units and 9/10 they were horrible. We all have different experience.

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                              UltraHD, 08 Mar 2023Why are you trolling tho? S22 was a huge disappointment in ... more"Why are you trolling tho? S22 was a huge disappointment in terms of almost everything because of its poor exynos. You're licking their @ss for what exactly?"
                              The Galaxy S22 was a huge disappointment because of its poor, bad Qualcomm processor, since most of the world got that variant, most S22 users with SD are switching it to the S23 more than the S22 Exynos users, the S22 SD was worse than the S22 Exynos, you must be trolluing saying that the S22 was a huge disappoint because of Exynos, wasn't, only search for the GPU RTX benchmark, the Exynos 2200 outperforms the Qualcomm 8 gen 2 in RTX.

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                                • 08 Mar 2023

                                Bigmeme, 08 Mar 2023"Excellent". 😭😂😂Look who can't accept real facts.
                                Better accept the truth that you can't change..

                                  ARM Core types over the years:

                                  Cortex-A5
                                  Scorpion v1

                                  Scorpion v2
                                  Cortex-A8
                                  Scorpion v3

                                  Cortex-A9
                                  Krait-200
                                  Cortex-A15
                                  Krait-300

                                  Cortex-A12
                                  Krait-400
                                  Krait-450
                                  Cortex-A17

                                  Apple A7 Cyclone

                                  Tegra Denver
                                  Apple A8 Typhoon

                                  Cortex-A57
                                  Mongoose v1
                                  Kryo-1000
                                  Apple A9 Twister

                                  Cortex-A72
                                  Tegra Denver2
                                  Mongoose v2
                                  Apple A10 Hurricane

                                  Cortex-A73
                                  Mongoose v3
                                  Apple A11 Monsoon

                                  Cortex-A75
                                  Mongoose v4
                                  Tegra Carmel
                                  Apple A12 Vortex

                                  Mongoose v5
                                  Cortex-A76
                                  Apple A13 Lightning

                                  Cortex-A77
                                  Apple A14 Firestorm

                                  Cortex-A78
                                  Apple A15 Avalanche
                                  Apple A16 Everest

                                  Cortex-A710
                                  Cortex-A715

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                                    Patrik, 07 Mar 2023Nobody wants slow SD cards.What are you doing that an ad is slow?! Music, movies, pics, videos, books etc can be stored there and watched later. Games can stay on the main storage without problems.

                                      Won't that make them all same? I am glad Qualcomm is working on a solution.
                                      Arm is going crazy for monopoly.
                                      Hopefully something else comes to the rescue. Like risc v or something. Whatever that means.

                                        UltraHD, 07 Mar 2023Oh my f****** God!!! Just stick with the f***** snapdragon ... moreMuppet, custom stuff means better control over supply, less royalties to pay for Qualcomm. Apple does that successfully for more than a decade.

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