Samsung Galaxy A34 vs. Samsung Galaxy A54
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- 17 Nov 2023
kevvv, 19 Apr 2023Since you're acting like Xiaomi's software is alw... moreIn other words you're saying that you're a dumbo. There are literally thousands of YouTube videos where it has been said that oneui is the best android skin. Only previously Huawei and oxygenos could compete. Not a trash like miui. And the new unoptimized sh*t hyperos. Just ios copycat.
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Anonymous, 01 Nov 2023I was scrolling down the comments to get some info of which... moreSame Decision
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I was scrolling down the comments to get some info of which phone i should go for.Now i know,its better i go for a cheaper one, save some cash for the upkeep and still enjoy same features and five years guarantee plastic back.......my choice
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- 01 Nov 2023
Hendrixvirus, 16 Apr 2023There is no physical difference between the A and S series ... moreyou are dreaming in broad daylight and worst of it,there is no one to wake you up🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
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- 05 Sep 2023
Prefer previous setting. dun like this way
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- 05 Jul 2023
A34 is better, because Mediatek Dimensity > Exynos.
'Ugly' notch might be a deal breaker for some. Plastic back is in my opinion better than glass back.
And if you get the A34, get the silver one. More phones should use the 'opal rainbow' color.
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- 01 May 2023
Tai, 01 May 20231 sec delay will hold the needed infor longer to your view,... moreIt's your patience problem then.
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- 01 May 2023
kevvv, 19 Apr 2023You said my next paragraph is a red herring, henceforth in ... more1 sec delay will hold the needed infor longer to your view, yet, your brain work super duper faster more than any pc else so... that'a problem.
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- 19 Apr 2023
Cyberchum, 19 Apr 2023Where did you prove what you claimed you proved, please? By... moreSince you're acting like Xiaomi's software is always less optimized than Samsung's software, where there's no proof about this in any corner of the internet. Bugs can be found anywhere, in any form in the software, because there is no software in this world that is free of bugs. Since you're one of those people that get affected to a bug that makes your device less usable than your other phone, doesn't mean it's less optimized.
About the newer Android that being stricter, it's not a subjective takes, it's a FACT. There is absolutely no gain on the user's side to forbid users from installing apps designed for older versions of Android. Don't say for the "security" reason, because it's not.
Tell me something that has a lot to do with user experience other than gaming? No one really cares if you need to wait 1 second more to open an app, or you can't get some goofy ahh transitions when you open some apps with specific UI. If you get a bug, you might just be unlucky, that's it. Because bet on a big amount of money, not everyone gets the same bug with you despites doing the same thing with you with the same phone model.
But yeah, I won't reply (I hope) any further argument. This stigma about optimization is what makes more and more people hate MIUI, or think that One UI is the best UI software.
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- 19 Apr 2023
kevvv, 19 Apr 2023You said my next paragraph is a red herring, henceforth in ... moreWhere did you prove what you claimed you proved, please? By the way, who said that all Xiaomi users do that? You're bringing up arguments just to beat yourself. Funny stuff. Yes, everything you said from "also, newer Android doesn't always better, since they keep…" aren't just red herring, but highly subjective takes, too.
"With what should I compare user experience other than heavier usage than gaming?" Tell me you didn't just say that. Oh, so game performance correlates with over all user experience? LMAO. Done talking about this with you, cause you very clearly have little depth.
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- 19 Apr 2023
Cyberchum, 19 Apr 2023Again, you're still talking about bad software and bad... moreYou said my next paragraph is a red herring, henceforth in that paragraph I prove you that NOT everyone experiences bad user experience in MIUI. With what should I compare user experience other than heavier usage than gaming? No one really cares if you have 1 second delay when you open an app.
People buy a more expensive phone so they can open more apps on their phone, store more things on their phone, or gain some hardware-specify feature that you won't get on a cheaper one. Regarding games, you will also find a lot of people who don't have gaming problems on their Xiaomi phones. No matter what happened, the one with lower RAM and slower chipset will always struggle faster with time, it's already a rule of nature.
Also, speaks about RAM usage, no matter how optimized One UI is, it will always be a heavy RAM eater like MIUI. You can't really compare both of them in terms of RAM usage. They're more comparable to a better-RAM-friendly Stock UI.
> And I'd rather have One UI core on lowend/entry level phones than have the full One UI experience; I would also rather have android Go on such phones than full android.
I'm not saying that Android Go is bad, but One UI Core is really bad, if you really think how much built-in features that get trimmed from it (which is actually already available built-in on AOSP), like Cast, Screen Recorder, Camera Access, etc.
Again, I just want to say that the user experience problems you might experience might just be because you're unlucky. How about a widely reported issue in the Xiaomi community? Well they were unlucky too, but we can't make them all say "Xiaomi's user experience is bad" because there are far more people out there who don't join the smartphone community who haven't had the slightest complaint about their phone.
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- 19 Apr 2023
kevvv, 18 Apr 2023Like I/you said before, it's back to our own personal ... moreAgain, you're still talking about bad software and bad hardware. Extremes. Please, show where I made a claim about bad software here, let alone saying the all Xiaomi's software are bad. I actually personally prefer some MIUI apps to their equivalent from Pixel and One UI (E.g dialer photo editor (part of the gallery app), editing options available after immediately taking a screenshot) I have actually asked you to show which phone has bad hardware here, but you couldn't do it. So, you're just whipping an argument for the sake of it, unfortunately.
Now, the comment you responded to about gameplay wasn't about my own experience like you made it out to be. I actually said in the earlier exchanges that I DON'T game. When I said that "I have seen some Redmi phones with better SoCs have worse gameplay than phones from another brand with weaker SoC," it's from people using said phones who compared it to other phones with slightly weaker SoCs. And also from reviews. E.g, a Redmi with Snapdragon 660/675 performed in same level or slightly worse than a Nokia/Motorola with Snapdragon 636 in games. Similar case with a Redmi with Snapdragon 732G performing worse than some phones with Snapdragon 720G.
Your argument about Redmi 12C (Helio G85) vs Samsung A04 (Helio G35) is valid in isolation. I said isolation because lowend/entry-level phones aren't primed for gaming. They are primed for basic, very casual use and will ultimately be judged on how best they performed in that regard, not for gaming when virtually no one buys them for that purpose. Gaming isn't one of their targeted use cases. Again, user experience reigns supreme. Chinese OEMs tend to offer slightly better specs in entry level phones (and generally, tbh) than Samsung, but also slightly worse user experience. What will suit majority of targeted audience must take precedence. I, personally, would chose any flavor of One UI with 3GB of RAM over any flavour of MIUI with 4GB of RAM. And I'd rather have One UI core on lowend/entry level phones than have the full One UI experience; I would also rather have android Go on such phones than full android. This should be common sense. Those flavors exist for a reason which the spec junkies found here are seemingly too thick to understand.
Yes, I went for Galaxy Note 10+ despite knowing that it just received its last update (android 12), because I knew the full package Galaxy Note 10+ offers, that android 12 will be enough for me for the duration I'd have the phone, that that full package it offers, including the amount it cost, will ameliorate the lack of further OS updates. That is the logic. Most of those brand new midrangers don't possess that full package. And most of them, especially ones from other OEMs, will only end up having one more OS version than the Galaxy Note 10+ while being generally shittier without rooting and flashing custom ROMs, something which overwhelming majority of users are simply not cut out for. That's the logic.
Rest of the things you said are red herring.
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kevvv, 18 Apr 2023Like I/you said before, it's back to our own personal ... moreaudience don't game, too. Again, user experience reigns supreme. What will suit majority of targeted audience must take precedence. I, personally, would chose any flavor of One UI with 3GB of RAM over any flavour of MIUI with 4GB of RAM. And I'd rather have One UI core on lowend/entry level phones than have the full One UI experience; I would also rather have android Go on such phones than full android. This should be common sense. Those flavors exist for a reason which the spec junkies found here are seemingly too thick to understand.
Yes, I went for Galaxy Note 10+ despite knowing that it just received its last update (android 12), because I knew the full package Galaxy Note 10+ offers, that android 12 will be enough for me for the duration I'd have the phone, that that full package it offers, including the amount it cost, will ameliorate the lack of further OS updates. That is the logic. Most of those brand new midrangers don't possess that full package. And most of them, especially ones from other OEMs, will only end up having one more OS version than the Galaxy Note 10+ while being generally shittier without rooting and flashing custom ROMs, which overwhelming majority aren't cut out for. That's the logic.
Rest of the things you said are red herring.
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- 18 Apr 2023
Cyberchum, 17 Apr 2023I didn't at any time say that I have a battery life pr... moreLike I/you said before, it's back to our own personal experience to that phone. Not all Xiaomi's software are bad (except if you count the software policy), and not all Samsung's software are superior, especially that core series of One UI (One UI Core). In a higher midrange, the difference in performance may not be really felt (except the Exynos one, which is often reported to struggle in high performance such as playing games, and not very battery efficient compared to Snapdragon/MediaTek.), but for the lower devices, the one with lower hardware will ALWAYS struggling, no matter what happened. I will give you an example. Let's just compare the real gaming performance between Redmi 12C (Helio G85) vs Samsung A04 (Helio G35) that has similar price. Without using it first, which one do you think will struggle with heavier tasks, "unoptimized" Redmi 10C but faster processor, or "optimized" Samsung A04 but slower processor? Don't worry, I'm a Samsung user, I use S20, A32, and A03, and know all of them are often receive updates. So, I'm not just blatantly defending one side.
Also, speaks about software update, do you know that there are still so many people looking for refurbished S10/S20/S20 FE even though all of them will going through their EoL era a year from now? If you meet my irl friend, you will normally see their phone running on outdated software despites their phone is able to receive Android 13. Their answer will be like "I don't need those updates, there's no real advantage for me if this one still works fine." Also, newer Android doesn't always better, since they keep stricting the ability to sideload on their OS "fOr SeCuRiTy rEaSoN" (it's not lol), like in Android 14 you will no longer able to install apk of an app that designed for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and earlier. And now I'm start thinking, what's the point of buying Android, if they slowly removing the advantage of Android over iOS?
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- 18 Apr 2023
Just so you know that A34 smokes the A54 in the real world app opening test. That's how much Samsung screwed the Exynos up.
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- 18 Apr 2023
Hendrixvirus, 16 Apr 2023There is no physical difference between the A and S series ... moreAnd? You buy a phone for the looks, to show off or? Form over function?
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- 17 Apr 2023
kevvv, 17 Apr 2023First of all, if do you think changing the OS doesn't ... moreI didn't at any time say that I have a battery life problem. What I said is that AOSP custom ROMs generally fair worse than debloated stock ROM (or stock-based custom ROMs) when it comes to battery endurance.
And, you're still swinging at extremes: bad hardware and bad software. Where did you get that from? Which of the phones here have bad hardware? What is even your definition of bad hardware?
Let me say it for the umpteenth time, a phone with AVERAGE hardware, but SUFFICIENTLY OPTIMISED software over a phone with ABOVE AVERAGE hardware, but POORLY OPTIMISED software. The former will carter very well to the phone needs of the majority; they latter won't.
"it's not just the best hardware that you can get with the same price with another brand" isn't equal to "it has bad hardware." I can easily turn that around and tell you that that another brand that will offer "better hardware" wouldn't offer the best software experience you can get with the same price from another brand. What is the point of a "better hardware" to majority of buyers when that better hardware usually don't reflect in actual usage? When they perform worse than a phone with inferior hardware in common use cases? I have seen some Redmi phones with better SoCs have worse gameplay than phones from another brand with weaker SoC, so what's the point? I've seen them heat up like a furnace over normal use. In the end, choose your tradeoff.
Swap Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 on Galaxy S23 with the recently announced snapdragon 7 Gen 2, and 80% of users wouldn't be able to tell a difference in regular day-to-day use. Like I said, most users are oblivious of their phone's hardware, but they know how their phone is serving them. That's part of the selling point of iPhones whether or not you'll admit it, and Samsung is striving for that. Google with its Pixels, too. USER EXPERIENCE!
One last thing: the better the length of software update, the better the resale value. That update is one of the reasons why iPhones have the best resale value. Very few people would want to buy a second hand phone with outdated software. I'm sure that I wouldn't have bought this Galaxy Note 10+ last year if it was running android 10 at a time when android 12 was the current version. I bought it because it was on android 12 when some phones that came out years after it was still on android 11. That's a very strong advantage in the second hand market: even though it has better hardware than Galaxy A52s, I would have chosen A52s over it if it was stuck on Android 10.
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- 17 Apr 2023
Cyberchum, 17 Apr 2023Yes, I have the the snapdragon version. Downside is that I ... moreFunny story I tested an old Huawei flagship and the experience is unique.
Made me think how the SW went to the trash bin due the lack of competition.
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Anonymous, 15 Apr 2023In which country does the 12 Turbo available at 270$? You a... moreWell GSM Arena said that when posted pricing about redmi turbo.
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Cyberchum, 16 Apr 2023Oh, I'm tech savvy enough. I've been rooting phon... moreFirst of all, if do you think changing the OS doesn't fix your battery life problem, then looks like your chipset is kinda not efficient. Or there's something wrong with your unit.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Tbh I don't really wanna say it has bad hardware, more like it's not just the best hardware that you can got with the same price with another brand. In my opinon, with an X amount of money, why do you need to get one from this brand, if that one another one gives you better hardware? At least your last software experience on both brand are just the same, it's comfortable enough. So I don't need to think too much about software then. (This is a story for the midranger one, and MAYBE will be different if we're talking about entry-levels).
Tbh, I can really say both of us are kinda wrong. People might don't know what hardware do they use, but from many people that I know irl (except heavy users like gamer), they also don't really care with how much years their phone will receive security updates. What they think is, at least their phone works great for social media, it's good enough for them. That's why some overpriced underpower Oppo phones are really sold well here.
Software and hardware issues must be balanced. Good software with bad hardware will give users an uncomfortable experience if they use their device for a long time, while good hardware with bad software will also give users a not-so-good experience, with a more technical user like tech savvy as the exceptions.