Samsung Galaxy S24 to use stacked battery tech borrowed from EVs

23 April 2023
The report claims a 10% improvement in density.

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Anonymous, 23 Apr 2023China is the world leader in battery technology and Electri... moreThey got it for exploiting Indonesia's Natural Resources!
The raw material for Lithium Ion is Nickel. And 98% of Indonesian nickel is exported to China so that China can produce lithium batteries and electric cars.
What if Indonesia, which is the largest nickel supplier to China, stops the cooperation/investment with them?
China will lose its production capabilities

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    Minu, 24 Apr 2023Don't worry, they'll screw up again in a matter of timeLmao

      SR, 25 Apr 2023Yes. You are also right. I think engineers can clarify th... morePhones and laptops will always be more efficient (because they have to) than pcs because of the battery and size restrictions

        AlienKiss, 24 Apr 2023Ok, now bring back the SD card slot and the 3.5mm jack. Tha... moretoo late. the decision is final, all oems started to follow apple. starting from removing mSD, then 3.5mm jack. and finally the f ing charging brick for the sake of "environmental reasons" there is nothing we can do about it.

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          • 25 Apr 2023

          I wish they come up with new tech which doesnt heat up the battery. This increase in capacity just feels like a stop-gap thing.

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            • 25 Apr 2023

            Digdigfig, 24 Apr 2023The thing is you don't use your phone and keep the soc... moreYes.
            You are also right.
            I think engineers can clarify the data i shared earlier.
            But i think on most smarthphones those data works.
            I use a phone with a processor which have 10W TDP and i performded highest kind of usage test on that but still it never drained the 100% within 3 hour probably thermal throttling restrict those.

            I have a desktop & a laptop also.
            I think you know that laptop TDP is lower than desktop.
            Desktop TDP is highest.
            Hence i tried looking for TDP of mobiles and got those number and compared with each other.

              Hanif Fikri, 24 Apr 2023no charging port on 8mm thickness? lol r u kidding?because usb c is the norm nowadays, it might be impossible to put into under 8mm thickness. or i may refer to audio jack.

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                • 24 Apr 2023

                Nonnimus Technogeek., 24 Apr 2023If you see the inside of the phone, battery takes a lot of ... moreIf the battery needs to be thin then yes it be large and take space away from other things.
                These batteries are like 3-4mm thick so they be long and wide to have that over 4000mAh
                But they could make the battery 4-5mm thick and then the batter dont need to be so wide and tall.
                But they do them thin like pancake so they get the full phone thinner.
                It's like they take a phone and rolls the dough with it to get it thin and large

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                  blue, 24 Apr 2023Why would they make something people don't want? The b... moreApple standard phone is already compact enough so why even care for the mini. Never mind that SE even is like the mini and is also cheaper then the mini.

                  I dont know the numbers of S23 sold and S23 Ultra sold while standard S23 is already compact and numbers show that people dont want large phones when they go with S23 or S22 as these phones are as big as S6 was but with larger screen with no bezel basically

                    you have to suffer, 23 Apr 2023otherwise there'll be no charging port.. if it happens... moreno charging port on 8mm thickness? lol r u kidding?

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                      • 24 Apr 2023

                      Digdigfig, 24 Apr 2023The thing is you don't use your phone and keep the soc... moreExynos 2200 and 8 gen 1 most inefficient in recent times as 9w tdp more of a guide seen then use peak of 17w and sustained 12w before throttling occures to around 8w with half the performance.

                      The 8 gen 2 has literally double the performance with less power draw so more efficient but battery wont degrade as fast also as less power draw and heat which affects phone efficiency

                      Watch geekerwan video on this

                      Also the true minimum capacity should be advertised not the typical instead of minimum

                        AlienKiss, 24 Apr 2023Ok, now bring back the SD card slot and the 3.5mm jack. Tha... moreThey will never bring them back. Why would they when they can make money from wireless headsets and from pushing people to spend more on models with higher storage capacity

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                          • 24 Apr 2023

                          Ok, now bring back the SD card slot and the 3.5mm jack. That's what every fan and power user actually want from a high-end flagship, instead of 15 pointless cameras.
                          For the R-tarts that say the SD card is obsolete: has the swappable microSSD for smartphones been invented yet? Does it have a dedicated slot?
                          No?
                          I rest my case your honor . The opps are too dumb for this court !

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                            • 24 Apr 2023

                            Digdigfig, 24 Apr 2023Ok, fair, but from what I know only samsung suffers from th... moreI am not sure of it either. But, I think in an attempt to fit larger capacities into smaller spaces, they skimped out on some stuff (I think they use smaller, thinner electrodes or stuff like that) which can degrade faster and easier. Also, their devices don't have a breathing space inside the phone, it is so tightly packed.

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                              • 24 Apr 2023

                              blue, 24 Apr 2023Why would they make something people don't want? The b... moreIf you see the inside of the phone, battery takes a lot of space. Making the battery smaller/ increasing energy density has many advantages-
                              - You can fit a bigger battery.
                              - You can make the device smaller/compact.
                              - They can make space for an even bigger/better cooling system.
                              - They can use better hardware for other stuff (like bigger, better speakers).
                              - Can potentially make the phone lighter.

                              Hopefully, they test the tech well and work out all the kinks before releasing it.

                                Nonnimus Technogeek, 24 Apr 2023Battery expanding problem is partly due to user too. It hap... moreOk, fair, but from what I know only samsung suffers from this. I haven't seen any reports of this happening to xiaomi/apple/other company's devices

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                                  Digdigfig, 24 Apr 2023Ok, I'm not going to talk about the note 7. How do you... moreBattery expanding problem is partly due to user too. It happens when you don't charge the device for a long time (say 6+ months at a time). I still have my old Galaxy S2 and Galaxy S4 in working condition, and they still don't have expanded battery. I charge them up once in 3 months and they are good to go. It is either due to a phenomenon called Outgassing, which is when the chemical reactions inside a battery are not functioning properly, or, due to electrodes degradation. These occur when you don't use the devices battery, which self-discharges and when it is left for too long, it reaches a point where electrodes degrade.

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                                    • 24 Apr 2023

                                    energy density of salt (sodium) batteries is today about 10 times that of current lithium

                                      Anonymous, 23 Apr 2023like been reported many times solid state battery is the ne... moreI'd say there is also the price problem. Solid state will (most likely) be more expensive to manufacture and they will also increase the price because they will hold up better over time (meaning less income from battery replacements and less incentive to buy a new phone to have better battery life). I hope I'm wrong tho

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                                        Anonymous, 23 Apr 2023Motorola and vivo made super thin phones years ago. Vivo ... moreDunno about others, but once moto made a flagship phone just 6 mm thin

                                        Still have it in my collection and I'll never sell it

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