Apple faces £1.6b lawsuit in the UK over iPhone throttling

03 May 2023
The old batterygate rears its ugly head.

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AJ, 03 May 2023If this suit goes won, it is Government bullying at its fin... moreYou don't see the real picture at all.
All these while its Apple pulling the wool over their own consumers....but now when people started sharing with many content creators highlighting multiple stuffs on each makers' strengths and flaws, this rotten fruit stands out uncontested number 1.

From its operations now shifting from China to India, what other craps u think they will pull if people don't start waking up against exploits?
'Save the environment' - no charger in phone packs but separates them in another (more wastage) and older tech using new materials.
Charging hefty premium price for repairs and taxing extra on 'illegal' repairs.
Its due time govts step in against rogue companies ripping their citizens (indirectly their countries monies) off easily.

    AJ, 03 May 2023If this suit goes won, it is Government bullying at its fin... moreNah, we brits just love to sell off anything that’s home grown, here in Blighty everything has a price.

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      [deleted post]I can easily accept for €1550/month ..

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        [deleted post]I agree

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          If this suit goes won, it is Government bullying at its finest. No wonder why the UK does not have its own Apple and Amazon, you guys would bully your own companies to death. So they never set up shop in UK, or get sold out to the US companies before they get too big so as to get bullied

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            Funny how apple is trying to downplay the entire situation. It's not about the number of devices affected, it's about what they did in the first place, throttling of phones illegally and hiding it from their users. All in the name of protecting the battery which sounds BS. There should have been a complete disclosure of what they were doing but they hid it because apple was actually trying to sell more iphones by slowing down the older ones

              Anonymous, 03 May 2023Why is this being brought up now? This was years ago. Is... moreThe answer to most Brexit-related questions is almost always yes.

              Saying this as a brit myself.

                some idiot, 03 May 2023Hey, why do I see floating popcorn? "Didn't you see i ate popcorn? My third eye still invisible to you?"

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                  Why is this being brought up now? This was years ago.

                  Is Brexit hitting that badly?

                    Apple is completely at fault because Apple did NOT inform customers that they were throttling the iPhones. THAT's the problem, and Apple WILL pay.

                    The throttling itself made sense, as to prevent unexpected shutdowns which were plaguing the 6 and 6s series (especially the 6s). The 6s even had its own recall program. But Apple being a snob, they thought they didn't need to tell their own customers. Voila.

                      jerem06, 03 May 2023Antennagate, iPhone bending, batterygate, voluntary slowing... moreHow many android models have have reception issues over the years, how many can be snapped like a twig, how many have been abandoned from a support point of view in favour of a successor model?

                      The answer is quite a lot, nobody has ever seemed to care though as, where Android is concerned, the next shiny thing your should all give your attention too is always right around the corner. An Android phone literally has to explode to get any where near Apple levels of bad publicity.

                      And that is not me knocking android before anyone starts, I’ve owned more Android smartphones than iPhones over the years, it’s just me being aware of the history because of my own experience.

                      And I’ll say it again, 6 years ago this issue was raised and tackled. Seems a bit suspicious that it’s being brought up again now.

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                        The suit in question is worth £1.6b and is by Justin Gutmann on behalf of UK-based users affected by Apple's "throttling" of the iPhone 6 and 6s. Gutmann's lawyers argue that Apple concealed issues with the older iPhones' batteries by limiting performance.

                        HInestly new Iphones are the same.
                        They added few more ram to handle IOS but forget to add some extra to handle heavy games like Forza Motosport, Gensin Impact, Diablo Immortal and heavy apps like editting 8K videos.

                          Anonymous, 03 May 2023At least they didn’t have exploding batteries like Samsung.... moreHere we are not talking about normal wear but premature, stop defending what is not defensible, Apple has already been condemned in the United States. Some iPhone batteries also exploded.

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                            jerem06, 03 May 2023Antennagate, iPhone bending, batterygate, voluntary slowing... moreAt least they didn’t have exploding batteries like Samsung.

                            What I mean is that all brands have their own share of issues, lately AMD their newest CPUs blew themself up, and the list of companies making mistakes is long.

                            Every company makes them, we can all blame Apple as the sole evil company, but the truth is that they are not the only one.

                            Anyhow I rather forget the whole Note gate, how Samsung handled it was pretty poor but most people don’t remember that because in their “major markets” they stood above all, and handled it fine.

                            I had to send the phone back because of it dangerous and got €300 euro instore credit on Samsung website to buy a new phone, and while I still use Samsung I hope they never ever scr*w over their customers again, just because they don’t live in the “major market”

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                              Anonymous, 03 May 2023This is more a battery thing than a Apple only issue. I... more“ However more often than not this should happen when the health is under 80%”

                              You mean other way around, when the health is at 80% and above, voltage issues should not happen.

                              To add to this, I have some older more dumb non-Apple devices with weaker batteries, if you try to run them at original performance the battery can not handle it and the device will shut off.

                              Same with all current gen laptops and smartphones, the throttle down when the battery gets weaker to prevent that.

                              Simple chemistry

                                Antennagate, iPhone bending, batterygate, voluntary slowing down of some iPhones to push for renewal and hide a manufacturing defect, they charged for a battery that had a problem of premature wear. Apple's attitude is to puke especially that they sell their products at very high prices

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                                  Mills, 03 May 2023Wild. I think batterygate is like throttling performance on... moreThis is more a battery thing than a Apple only issue.

                                  I will explain the Apple part at the end, but the simple issue is that the older a battery gets the more it wears out and often but not at same health level (depends of battery) it loses voltage.

                                  Lower voltage can cause instability, so Apple lowered the performance of the 6 back then to keep the phone stable, while the battery was too weak to run at full performance.

                                  Same with my notebook and old LG phone, the notebook throttles because my battery health on that thing is (after many years) under 50% now, and my LG phone that I still use for emulation has same issues with it’s 68% health.

                                  So what did Apple wrong?
                                  They lowered the performance without knowledge of the user and without any option to turn that off.

                                  Pretty much that, they did not communicate and that caused the whole battery gate, and honestly while I thing this lawsuit is “way too late”, at start Apple got and deserved the backlash about this.

                                  Anyhow the solution was the whole battery health system iphones now have, if the Peak Performance it not guaranteed anymore because of old and weak battery, the user will be informed the phone will throttle enough to keep it stable.

                                  You have two options now, turn it off and take the risk, or replace the battery.

                                  However more often than not this should happen when the health is under 80%, which is normal thing for most if all brands, and if the iphone battery reaches 80% or lower within the warranty period (2 years in EU), then they replace it for free.

                                  Same with other brands.


                                  So what happened with the whole battery gate was nothing new, the problem however is that Apple tried to “fix it” in a way they should not, and were stupid enough to never communicate about it, but just do it anyhow.

                                    Why not threaten them to have the CEO fired and banned from being able to work at apple. That way they stop, instead of asking for $1 cuz thats what $1 billion is to a trillion dollar company. You think they will stop just cuz u asked for $1 billion ???



                                      This is a 8 year old device, do people still expect to work perfectly fine?????

                                        Anonymous , 03 May 2023If their users were like android users, Apple would face fa... moreAndroid users have their own issues to deal with. Not like Androids road has been bump free now is it…….