Motorola Razr 40 Ultra to launch as Razr+ in the US, marketing materials surface
- Daemon Targaryen
- 4BT
- 20 May 2023
I watched Michael Fisher's vivo X Flip review yesterday and Samsung and these Chinese OEMs continue to make the same mistakes over and over with their cover displays. They're only used as mostly useless widgets. You still can't run full apps by default using an N2 Flip and X Flip.
Motorola was already doing this by the Razr 2019 which technically didn't come out until early-2020. Then the Razr 5G released 6 months later expanded on it. Why do these Chinese OEMs keep insisting for us to use SamSprung? I find CoverScreen OS superior but that's only developed for Samsungs.
Motorola is talking about in their marketing that you can use a keyboard from the cover display with this new Razr+. You could do this from the Razr 5G from 3 years ago! But you can only use the default Google keyboard. A third-party keyboard like SwiftKey won't appear on it.
I believe the Razr+ or (Razr Plus) will be my preferred foldable clamshell. Yeah, it's basically another version of the Z Flip 4 with the same 8+ Gen 1. But when it comes to flip phones, I'm all about style. The Razr+ still looks better than the Z Flip 5 which should have that overclocked 8 Gen 2 and DEX support.
The Pixel Fold and Razr+ are the only foldables that interest me this year. And they only interest me mildly. I can also get a Oppo Find N or N2 over a Pixel Fold instead. Prices for the N2 should be $900 or less in 6 months. But nah. Where is the support if it breaks? Oppo probably won't run on my network.
I'm more interested in the successor to the Nintendo Switch. I really hate the build quality of the Switch's analog sticks for any variant. SMH.
2023 Smartphone Watchlist
1. Google Pixel Fold
2. Motorola Razr+
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- Anonymous
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- 20 May 2023
Daemon Targaryen, 20 May 2023Razr 5G remains the best-looking clamshell because it still... moreNo.
Sony needs to make next pro-i , foldable is not necessary. Sony needs to make a " pro-i 2" with 8g3 , 16/512GB, all cameras exmor T as 1.1" 24mm + 1/1.3" 12mm + 1/1.7" 70-200mm periscope , 6000mAh, 5K screen.
Does not matter if it costs $2400.
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 20 May 2023
Anonymous, 20 May 2023Clean android and oldest hardware maker in one sophisticate... moreThe reality is less intuitive interface and over priced under powered all in one device
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- Anonymous
- XTM
- 20 May 2023
Clean android and oldest hardware maker in one sophisticated device
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- Anonymous
- IbI
- 20 May 2023
Daemon Targaryen, 20 May 2023Razr 5G remains the best-looking clamshell because it still... moreBruh, did you just write a long-ass thesis?!
- Daemon Targaryen
- 4BT
- 20 May 2023
Razr 5G remains the best-looking clamshell because it still looked like a RAZR before Motorola (or should I say, Lenovo?) copied Samsung. Had the most useful cover display by default. I'm typing from mine right now. No need for SamSprung or CoverScreen OS.
Most apps works on it except maybe Google Wallet and a few apps like Pluto TV and Tubi are worse when showing 4:3 content as it won't fill the entire screen. I find it weird because when running old NES or Super NES ROMs via Lemuroid or RetroArch, it will fill the entire cover display. The Razr 2019 was worse from being e-sim and Verizon-only.
I'm not interested in getting a third foldable flip phone. I want the book-style this time. I do think the vivo X Flip is the best-looking clamshell of 2023 (so far) better than the N2 Flip in design. I predict the foldables Michael Fisher will be using by the end of this year are the Google Pixel Fold and Motorola Razr 40 Ultra. He's finally ditching the Samsung foldables after 3.5 years.
I'm torn between getting the first gen Find N or wait for the Pixel Fold. The first gen Find N has more rounder sides that I prefer than the Find N2. I know the Find N2 is lighter by 40g and thinner. But I'm not a fan of the flatter sides. This is where Samsung was headed last year and I don't like it. Why I'm not interested in the Z Fold 5. You can get a Find N for $900 on Giztop. The N2 is $1.2K. I can live with Snapdragon 888 over 8+ Gen 1. But I do love me that faux leather rear of the N2.
Pixel Fold looks like the most exciting phone release this year for tech nerds. I have some concerns. I read an article in Dec 2022 that Google will see the sales reaction for the Pixel Fold. It's not guaranteed it will have future successors. And I think the Pixel Fold will NOT sell well. Not for $1800. Now Google is toying with the idea of a Pixel Flip by 2025 but it looks like they'll have a wait and see approach.
The most ideal Pixel Fold will probably be by the Pixel Fold 4. First off, I love the Pixel 8 Pro getting that thermometer. A gimmick but a useful gimmick. Nobody carries thermometers in their pockets. So the Pixel Fold next month won't be getting that and will get last year's Tensor G2 built on Samsung's inefficient 5nm node. By late-2025, we'll get TSMC's G5 built on 3nm. So 8 months after that, Pixel Fold 4 is released or perhaps it's released the same time as the Pixel 10 series in late-2025? Who knows by that point?
My worry is what if Google doesn't release any more foldables because what if they become sales flops? I highly doubt their first Fold will sell even 1M no matter how many YouTubers love it. And could Google copy what Oppo/OnePlus do? Make future Folds bigger and bigger? The N3 will pack an 8" inner display. So the Find N and N2 might be the last compact book-style folds. The Oppo and OnePlus book-style foldables possibly released this year will look pretty much the same.
I'm reading Sony might finally release a foldable flip phone and it will be smaller than the Z Flip 4. Sony is finally waking up! Flip phones remained popular in Japan for years. But I'm hearing it won't have a cover display if it's going to be that compact. A Sony foldable flip phone is the only clamshell phone that will be on my radar more so than a Pixel flip. I wish Sony released a successor to the PS Vita and Xperia Play. Using a Vita today still doesn't feel outdated. LiveArea UI feels way more modern than any handheld UI released during the last 12 years. Kudos, Sony.
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- Anonymous
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- 20 May 2023
Should be
Razr 40 : SD695, 6GB, 256GB , 3800mAh , 6,2" 1080p 90Hz , 50MP 1/1.5" 25mm + 12MP 1/2.5" 60mm, selfie 12MP 1/3.2"
Razr 40 Ultra: SD8g2 , 12GB, 512GB, 4440mAh, 6.2" 1080p 120Hz, 200MP 1/1.22" 25mm + 48MP 1/2" 70mm , selfie 60MP 1/2.8"
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- Anonymous
- Iby
- 20 May 2023
Motorola has a bit of a brand image problem is America since the Lenovo acquisition, so I don't see this making much of a dent in Samsung's Flip sales. Especially since the Galaxy Flip 5 will be announced just 2 months later, and will be far superior.
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- Lonteku
- xjH
- 20 May 2023
Bigger LCD cover but small battery, it's something wrong here. Why can it's have bigger battery?
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- Anton-
- 8xr
- 20 May 2023
AnonD-1022549, 20 May 2023and so motorola continues their thinktank of having two nam... moreIf we go to that Xiaomi and oppo take the prize
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- AnonD-1022549
- yaq
- 20 May 2023
and so motorola continues their thinktank of having two names for the same product, where north america gets the less informative one...
- Codedslam
- mFd
- 20 May 2023
Flip Are Still Better Than Fold, I Will Get One Soon, Motorola Pricing Are Good, I Will Get This