Steam Summer Sale slashes Steam Deck price by as much as 20%

02 July 2023
This is the steepest discount we've seen on Valve's handheld yet.

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Kangal, 05 Jul 2023Minecraft is one example. To avoid cherry picking data, can... moreI told you that the software sales of the Switch were over 1 billion units. I don't see how that is cherry picking. Most game companies don't disclose sales by platform. Again, no, the Switch isn't only a handheld console. It's a hybrid console. The Switch Lite is a handheld console, and it's the worst-selling version of the Switch. The Switch and Switch OLED outsold the Switch Lite by a huge margin. https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2023/230509_3e.pdf

As for the Switch/Nintendo exclusive game sales, the top 10 Switch games sold over 280 million units.

    Anonymous, 04 Jul 2023Handheld consoles are consoles. In console world, sales abo... moreMinecraft is one example. To avoid cherry picking data, can we collaborate to find examples of:
    - Nintendo Switch exclusives, and how many titles they sold and how much money spent
    - PS4 exclusives, how many sold, what money was made
    - XB1 exclusives, how many sold, what money was made
    - Cross-platform between PS4 and XB1
    - Cross-platform between NSwitch and XB1
    - Cross-platform between NSwitch and PS4
    - Cross-platform between NSwitch, PS4, and XB1

    ...those facts will tell the whole story. And they will refute or confirm the assertion that was made, which is that Nintendo isn't in the console market, they are not competing with rivals, and the NSwitch is mostly aligned as being a Handheld Console (ie new3DS XL successor). The handheld market is very different to the Home Console market.

    If you're interested, we can do the same exercise between each generations. The turning point in my view was the Wii, since the GameCube was more of a traditional competitor like the SNES. Whereas the WiiU did have a brief moment of competing against the PS3 and Xbox 360 when it came to time in the market and the games they supported. In my view, had Nintendo skipped the Wii (Late 2006) and instead released the WiiU before 2008, their market strategy would be very different (less reliance on exclusives).

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      • Anonymous
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      • 04 Jul 2023

      Also, the Switch is a hybrid console. It's both a home console and a handheld console.

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        • 04 Jul 2023

        Kangal, 04 Jul 2023Best selling console: is the PS2 (160 Million), then PS4 (... moreHandheld consoles are consoles. In console world, sales about 20 million units and lower are failures. The GameCube is one of the biggest failures of Nintendo. As for competition, you don't look at the big picture. You should try to see beyond hardware specs. Many games that released on multiple platforms sold the best on the Switch. The Switch definitely competes with other consoles in terms of software sales. For example, sales of the Switch version of Minecraft are 4 times of those on the Xbox and 2 times of those on the PlayStation. https://www.tweaktown.com/news/92143/minecraft-makes-4x-more-revenue-on-switch-than-xbox/index.html

        By the way, the software sales of the Switch are over 1 billion units.

          Anonymous, 03 Jul 2023It's silly to ask Nintendo to compete when the Switch ... moreBest selling console:
          is the PS2 (160 Million), then PS4 (120 M), then PS1 (103 M), then Wii (100 M), then PS3 (88 M), then Xbox 360 (84 M), then NES (62 M), then XB1 (58 M), then SNES (49 M), then N64 (33 M), then MegaDrive (31 M), then Atari 2600 (29 M), then Xbox (24 M), then GameCube (22 M), then Sega Master (18 M), then WiiU (14 M), then Tgfx16 (11 M), then Sega Saturn (10 M), then Dreamcast (9 M). Anything beyond 50M sales seems like a healthy success, hitting only 20M sales seems like a success, and anything below 10M seems like definite failure.

          Meanwhile, the best selling handheld:
          is the NDS (154 M), NSwitch (126 M), then Gameboy (119 M), then PSP (82 M), then GBA (81 M), then 3DS (76 M), then Game&Watch (43 M), then PS Vita (13 M), then GameGear (11 M), then WonderSwan (4 M), then nGage (3 M). Anything beyond 80M sales seems like a healthy success, hitting only 30M sales seems like a success, and anything below 15M seems like definite failure.

          ...Nintendo is merely competing against Nintendo at this point. Meanwhile Xbox is competing against PlayStation on the console front, and Valve on the PC front. The likes of PS and Xbox will probably enter the handheld market soon, via the competition of Cloud Streaming, but this would be parallel to Nintendo and not as a direct competitor.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 03 Jul 2023

            Kangal, 03 Jul 2023You're being a fanboy. I wasn't defending any co... moreIt's silly to ask Nintendo to compete when the Switch is on track to become the best-selling console in history.

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              • 03 Jul 2023

              Kangal, 02 Jul 2023I just had a weird thought, in terms of hardware it's ... moreYou mean a direct successor of the 3DS? No, the Switch is clearly an evolution of the Wii U if you think about it. The Wii U is similar to a hybrid console. You can play Wii U games in handheld mode. However, the Wii U GamePad must be close to the console. The Switch is like a Wii U GamePad with detachable controllers and with an SoC in it.

                Anonymous, 03 Jul 2023There are some pretty decent tutorials on YouTube on how to... moreI know that actually, you can even uninstall Windows Defender and Windows Update with those tutorials, but sadly not much people knows about that. Those who don't know will ended up installing all of the craps that they don't even need like TikTok or Candy Crush Saga and ends up getting confused while their device is laggier when upgraded to Windows 10/11.

                  OverSkull, 03 Jul 2023Yes that is a weird thought. A Stupid analogy that's c... moreYou're being a fanboy.
                  I wasn't defending any console. I was defending the consumer, they should have more competition, more choices, higher quality, and better value. You are deluded if you think having one dominate makes it better for others. I just want Nintendo to stop jer king around, and actually compete. The NSwitch is closer to the performance of the Xbox 360 than it is to the XB1. Now specs alone don't make a game better, or a console good... but it can be the difference of supporting a certain game from developers or not.

                  It is hard not to notice patterns in console history:
                  PS1 \ N64 \\ Dreamcast
                  PS2 \ GameCube \\ Xbox
                  Wii \\\\\ Xbox 360 \ PS3
                  WiiU \\\\ XB1 \ PS4
                  NSwitch \\\\ PS4 Pro \ XB1X
                  XSS \\ PS5 \ XSX

                  ...one of these manufacturers usually provides faster hardware, one of them usually provides hardware that is more than 1-generation behind, and another manufacturer is fairly competitive. Again, specs don't make the game, but they do enable developers to make it that much easier and higher fidelity.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 03 Jul 2023

                    Aoi Akane, 02 Jul 2023What I mean is with Windows you're not stuck with just... moreThere are some pretty decent tutorials on YouTube on how to "de-bloat" the Windows ISO file before installing to hardware, it is great for getting rid of not needed background tasks and improving performance.

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                      Kangal, 02 Jul 2023I just had a weird thought, in terms of hardware it's ... moreYes that is a weird thought. A Stupid analogy that's completely meaningless. In what world is the "Ps5 fast and the Xbox Fastest"....

                      Stop being a fan boy and grow up.

                        Anonymous, 02 Jul 2023only if u want to play indie games, but if u actually want ... moreBut if you use more than 15w then battery life will be less than 2 hour, simple math. Also deck can play plenty of AAA games at 720p which is decent. 1080p gaming isnt practical with current hardware in handheld form factor.

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 03 Jul 2023

                          It seems due to competition they slashed price of the Steam deck, or could be new version releasing later this year?

                            How can an upsized Nintendo Switch Lite can even sell well!

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 03 Jul 2023

                              rizki1, 02 Jul 2023that 64GB version can kill Switch OLED, I want handheld gam... moreI guarantee you that it won't. And good luck teaching emulation to a generation that is incapable of navigating a normal file system.

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                                • 02 Jul 2023

                                Hemedans, 02 Jul 2023Steam Deck perform better than Ally at low power, 15W and b... moreonly if u want to play indie games, but if u actually want to play more current graphics intensive games than 7840u smokes steam deck allowing games to hit higher settings res and fps vs settling for low everything sub 30fps and blurry fsr resolution from 480p from deck, so while it's great at low tdp still nets u subpar results

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                                  • 02 Jul 2023

                                  Kangal, 02 Jul 2023I just had a weird thought, in terms of hardware it's ... morenot true xbox definitely isn't faster because for one ps4 was more powerful than xbox and so was the ps3 technically than 360, ps5 is as well in different aspects better than series x which comparison have ps5 winning just as many times if not more than series x does, as for ps2 obviously came out way before xbox, which of course if u gonna release 1 2 years later than your competition it allows u to get more updated tech

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                                    • 02 Jul 2023

                                    that's a steal, but I'm sef gunnin for the more powerful 7840u handhelds that have released, just allows to push games visuals and fps that much more

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                                      • Anonymous
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                                      • 02 Jul 2023

                                      that's a steal for sure, but I'm definitely gunning

                                        Aoi Akane, 02 Jul 2023What I mean is with Windows you're not stuck with just... moreASUS can't. But if these handheld consoles will be used widely enough, Microsoft might create dedicated trimmed down edition of Windows (similar to what is running on Xbox). They might even create own handheld device though I suspect in that case it'll be locked down to Xbox services...

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