Sony's upcoming IMX903 and IMX907 smartphone image sensors detailed

25 July 2023
The IMX903 could be the sensor that Apple uses in the iPhone 15 Pro Max main camera. 

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Anonymous, 25 Jul 2023🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Do you know size of APSC? It is bit more than 3x... moreSame reason sensors used by security cameras /industry cannot be applied to phones. They have much more light sensitivity -

Most security cameras in shops, on streets etc use low grade low power CCTV cameras. Why do you think the video quality is so poor! Apples to oranges as Smartphone camera sensors are more alike digital camera sensors though much smaller.

Do you know size of APSC? It is bit more than 3x the 1". -

Your the one who obviously doesn't know the correct size 🤦🏾‍♂️ APS-C sensor size - 23.6 x 15.7mm (excluding Canon who use smaller size APS-C sensors in their cameras) 1 Inch sensor size - 13.2 x 8.8mm. Your mathematics on sensor size are way off 👍🏾

The only bit you actually got correct is thicker depth, which I already previously said larger sensors have thicker depth. Though there is current and future advancements in shrinking the depth.

    Kingchin33, 25 Jul 2023Yes Xiaomi are currently working on a Micro 4/3 sensor in a... moreWorking on a sensor implies they are developing a sensor which they aren't. At most they are working on how to incorporate a sensor of that size into the phone

      Aierlan, 25 Jul 2023What do you mean they are working on a micro 4/3 sensor? T... moreYes Xiaomi are currently working on a Micro 4/3 sensor in a prototype for a future flagship, what's so hard to understand.

      Obviously Xiaomi get they're sensors from supplier's then engineer it into their prototypes.

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        Anonymous, 25 Jul 20231 inch as main cam and 1/1.3 for secondary sensors should b... moreWith 1" + dual 1/1.56" , oppo has bizarre bump already.
        Imagine dual 1/1.3" ...

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          Anonymous, 25 Jul 20231 inch as main cam and 1/1.3 for secondary sensors should b... moreWhen exmor T becomes mainstream (not before late 2025), brands will be using smaller because they can perform better than larger with current tech.
          According to sony semicon, 1/2.9" exmor T can match 1/2" exmor RS.

          Phones will come with slimmer bumps. More internal space available.

            Anonymous, 25 Jul 2023Clients do not have ways to create own sensors. It requir... moreYeah, that's what I meant by my original comment. They can't be working on a sensor which is why I wanted to clarify what the poster meant

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              • 25 Jul 2023

              Where's the evidence that "Typically, dual pixel AF sensors capable of outputting images double their native resolution. "? There are so many phones with dual pixel AF but none can double sensor resolution. I think it's mistake from GSMArena they need to correct it

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                • Anonymous
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                • 25 Jul 2023

                1 inch as main cam and 1/1.3 for secondary sensors should be STANDARD.

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                  • 25 Jul 2023

                  Aierlan, 25 Jul 2023Right, thanks. That would make sense if they working on a d... moreClients do not have ways to create own sensors.
                  It requires semicon and imaging divisions , also working together.

                  All clients can do is to say what they need (size, resolution, dram or not, type of AF).

                    Still, those people with no knowledge about tech would say 'its only 48mp, very low quality!'

                      Anonymous, 25 Jul 2023It means xiaomi is trying to fit a micro 4/3 sensor inside ... moreRight, thanks. That would make sense if they working on a design to fit one in a phone (rather than working on the sensor itself)

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                        Aierlan, 25 Jul 2023What do you mean they are working on a micro 4/3 sensor? T... moreIt means xiaomi is trying to fit a micro 4/3 sensor inside phone.
                        Probably a modified version of one used by Panasonic GH6, since there is no 4/3 created for phones.

                          Kingchin33, 25 Jul 2023The Chinese smartphone manufacturers will keep bringing lar... moreWhat do you mean they are working on a micro 4/3 sensor? They don't make sensors, rather they buy or custom order from third party companies like Sony

                            Imagine a world where we use all metric measurements and not try to throw a bit of half and half just to make it confusing.

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                              • 25 Jul 2023

                              Mobilemaster, 25 Jul 2023Really? Can you tell us your source please?From weibo. Same person that years ago said iphone and xperia would have 48.

                              Mi 14 series: 4 devices with 8g3.
                              There is also rumor about the last camera.

                              14: 75mm
                              14 Pro: 75 or 100mm
                              14 Pro+ : 125mm
                              14 Ultra: 250mm

                                Anonymous, 25 Jul 2023Xiaomi is testing for mi 15 ultraReally? Can you tell us your source please?

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                                  Kingchin33, 25 Jul 2023You contradict yourself as a vertically stacked sensor will... moreExmor T is thicker than Exmor RS, but narrower and shorter.
                                  Overall size is smaller.
                                  Also, it uses less power.

                                  This is why 1v can record hours of 4K@60 without even showing temperature warning.
                                  Even with bitrates 3x of what other use.

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                                    • 25 Jul 2023

                                    Kingchin33, 25 Jul 2023The Chinese smartphone manufacturers will keep bringing lar... more🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                                    Do you know size of APSC? It is bit more than 3x the 1".
                                    It is not just wider and taller, but thicker too.

                                    Larger sensors generate much more heat and to install then you need to change voltage, which affects performance.
                                    Same reason sensors used by security cameras /industry cannot be applied to phones. They have much more light sensitivity.


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                                      • 25 Jul 2023

                                      sirol, 25 Jul 2023If put 4/3“ into phone will be too big camera bump.Xiaomi is testing for mi 15 ultra

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                                        • 8N3
                                        • 25 Jul 2023

                                        903 is indeed for Apple, but for 16 pro max.
                                        The other, nobody knows.

                                        Both can easily wipe floor with 989. Difference is huge.