Galaxy Z Flip5 trounces Razr 40 Ultra in fold test, surpasses Samsung's official claims

09 August 2023
Samsung says that the Z Flip5 has been tested to 200,000 folds, but the phone phone doubled that in a multi-day test against its Motorola-made competitor.

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Anonymous, 09 Aug 2023The Motorola phone died early because it was dunked in dust... moreYeah...after 100k flips both phones got put in a bag of dust...and the phone with an 'X' rating for dust survived for 200k+ more flips.

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    yalim, 09 Aug 2023samsung has been setting the standards of durability since ... moreStandards of durability ? Haha

    Go check out Galaxy S serie videos where they drop the phones. S22 series failed and S23 failed too and right on first drop. The $1000 phone breaks into a million pieces right away

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      • 09 Aug 2023

      The Motorola phone died early because it was dunked in dust first. Watch the video.

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        • 09 Aug 2023

        Not surprised Samsung is the best. And most reliable

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          DarlingYext, 09 Aug 2023Waiting for a year of actual real and non-sponsored user ex... moreWhf do you mean? The test was live streamed. That is as real as it gets. Sponsored or not the result stays the same.

            jyuukai, 09 Aug 2023Gsmarena commenters in shambles lol. Love reading the excus... moreOfcouse not, they hate the king of smartphones lol

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              Darth Caesium, 09 Aug 2023All foldables and flip phones should be required to have a ... moreThey need to hire people to test the folding as machines don't set pressure on the sides of the phone and test only the hinge by opening and closing with same pressure on all surface. Like you see in the video that show the machine. It's same with all there testing that is done by machine that have always same force of pressure on touch

                jyuukai, 09 Aug 2023What is the most organic way to test the hindge durability?... moreWaiting for a year of actual real and non-sponsored user experiences.

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                  • 09 Aug 2023

                  No surprised at all. Most typical Chinese products look really good on photoshoped image but when it's in your hand, it look and feel cheaply made. I remembered people praised mix fold 2 when it came out. It's so thin and beautiful blah blah. That thing wouldn't last 50k fold with flimsy hinge. I'm anti-Apple but hardware wise Apple is top-notch.

                    DarlingYext, 09 Aug 2023I wouldn't trust the Razr to last a long time either. ... moreWhat is the most organic way to test the hindge durability? Serious question

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                      • 09 Aug 2023

                      I've had my fold 4 for over a year now, I open the thing maybe 30-40 times a day and the hinge makes no noise. I have 0 issues with it the folding aspect of the phone so far. I've even dropped it once right on the hinge. I def think Samsung puts more care into their devices since they are the biggest android company, everyone looks at them first. Especially after the battery fiasco I'm sure they have much stricter rules for their quality control.

                      I like this test because they use multiple different people to do the folding test so each person is closing it slightly differently from the last and every time someone opens and closes the device, the amount of pressure and where you're holding it varies slightly. I feel like its as close as you can get to "real world" without telling someone to actually use this device for 4 years of their life.

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                        • 09 Aug 2023

                        samsung has been setting the standards of durability since 2012-2013. even apple had hard time matching them for some time. this hinge fail happened after dust and liquid torture. even flip4 was more durable than some of last year's traditional flagships. good result. however,really poor performance from motorola's both hinge and outer screen.

                          Anonymous, 09 Aug 2023Well Razor 40 Ultra shows yet another thing why it's t... moreAssuming you watched the jerryrigeverything durability test for this issue you might wanna check his latest retest of the issue
                          It's not the hinge or gap under the display, the real reason might surprise you

                            All foldables and flip phones should be required to have a hinge rated for at least 500,000 folds or flips before *any* problems arise. As in, they should be able to function the same at all angles for 500,000 folds or flips before starting to lose the ability to stay at certain angles, rather than being rated for 500,000 folds or flips before breaking. Durability is only a guarantee with anything in general if the rating is overkill for everyone.

                            Still, this is very impressive, and I wouldn't discount Samsung's durability win here.

                              JayRoar, 09 Aug 2023If you read the article, samsung officially advertises only... moreI wouldn't trust the Razr to last a long time either.

                              "But it was tested by humans folding the phone for over 400k."

                              Yeah, it sure was, in a way that doesn't at all represent real life usage, and that goes for both the Razr and the Z Flip.

                              "Of course its samsung so you always have a negative say on that company haha."

                              I said it might last even less, or more.. how is that negative?

                                DarlingYext, 09 Aug 2023Lab tests, like this always show crazy good results, this i... moreIf you read the article, samsung officially advertises only 200k flips or folds from the lab using machines. But it was tested by humans folding the phone for over 400k.
                                Of course its samsung so you always have a negative say on that company haha. It shows.

                                  Honor's Magic V2 with its flimsy and skinny looking design would probably collapse much sooner than other foldables.
                                  All foldables should be tested. Most wouldn't make it anywhere close to their claimed figures.

                                    folding tests don't represent real life usage, first hand I have seen loads of problems with samsung screens failing after a few months and samsung will find any reason to declare the warranty void

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                                      cozxta, 09 Aug 2023But you can't ignore that there are many people compla... moreOoh you can think of examples but when others do then you give them X emoji

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                                        cozxta, 09 Aug 2023Putting any phone in the back pocket and sitting on top of ... moreBut people still do it.
                                        Your probably stuck in a box of mind that cant think out of it. Also the reason why you give me a X for the comment.
                                        People do all types of dumb things that have not rationality. Cause you wont do it and think it's not a good thing to do it dont mean that other people dont do it.
                                        I for one dont set my phones in back pockets or even front cause the phones have gone so large that they dont fit so i have pants with side pockets or i have the phone in my hoody pockets. Basically secure pockets only that have zipper

                                        There are lots of things in life that you see and scratch your head what people do. And all types of things happen with careless thinking