Huawei Mate 60 Pro debuts with three punch holes in the display

29 August 2023
The phone is already on pre-order in China.

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  • 29 Aug 2023

Is this true 5nm? If so, who manufactured it? Samsung and TSMC are the only fabs I know that have the capability to produce 5nm. Or they just branded SMIC's N+2's 7nm as 5nm? And it's like a midrange chip since it didn't use cortex X-cores. And the GPU, is that a tweaked version of Mali GPUs?

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    Aierlan, 29 Aug 2023Both. Two variants. The yield on SMIC chips is very poor so... moreActually the 5G variant will be China exclusive and the Global is Snapdragon one.

    Meanwhile seems that Kirin 9000S is SMIC 7nm, while the other mentioned Kirins (720 and 830) are made on Dual 14nm

      Anonymous, 29 Aug 2023Will this still be a gutted snapdragon soc with no 5g or fi... moreBoth. Two variants. The yield on SMIC chips is very poor so there will be a limited number of kirin 9000s 5g models. I think it will be very hard to buy the Kirin models as the demand will far outstrip the supply

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        • 29 Aug 2023

        Zuzuz, 29 Aug 2023Huawei can make their own 5g modem without problems. The th... moreNope.
        At that time, China can't manufacture advance prosess bellow 14nm.

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          • 29 Aug 2023

          see how hauwei wont tell people about the processor it will be a less powerful one

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            • 29 Aug 2023

            Aierlan, 29 Aug 2023They can't use mediatek without a US license. Mediatek... moreThe only US tech mediatek tech use for making chip is the AIDA software.

              Zero, 29 Aug 2023Actually they solved the 5G modem issues aparently and the ... moreThey can't use mediatek without a US license. Mediatek uses US tech in the manufacturing process so they can't supply Huawei without a special license from the US government. It's the same situation as for Qualcomm

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                • 29 Aug 2023

                Zero bezel ?

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                  • 29 Aug 2023

                  Anonymous, 29 Aug 202312nmFunny story there are rumours that points that is Dual 14 nm. I mean they used a dual 14nm chip to bring 7nm performance, but with 10nm consumption, which is interesting.

                  And the performance (Kirin 9000S) is on par with Kirin 990. The advantage is that they can use 5G and the process is hella cheap now.

                  And is allowing UNISOC to enter with better proposals now.

                  Seems that Huawei opened a door that other brands might start to look since seems to be cheap and really decent for the performance given.

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                    Avon B7, 29 Aug 2023Huawei can produce any 5G modem without patent issues. They... moreActually they solved the 5G modem issues aparently and the deal is to reach EU. So yeah, Huawei must abide with Ericson rules in Europe, but now they can sell it. But the issue is that Qualcomm is out of the equation since is American, so they have 3 options....
                    - Going for Mediatek, which is unlikely
                    - Going with UNISOC, which is likely but they don't have any powerhouses
                    - Going with their own chip, which is likely to happen. But they have at best 14nm chips.

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                      • 29 Aug 2023

                      those who worry for back design just put a case on it

                        Anonymous, 29 Aug 2023Ugliest design I've ever seen in my lifeNo. That's the iPhone with its bulging 'eyes'. FUGLY.

                          ASL, 29 Aug 2023they can, but the tech is patented. you don't get it ?... moreHuawei can produce any 5G modem without patent issues. They are a major SEP player of 5G.

                          The liklihood is that no one can produce a 5G modem without paying 5G royalties to Huawei.

                          The deal with Ericsson is a cross licencing deal to avoid patent issues with each other.

                          The problems with Apple/Ericsson are of a different nature. They are/were suing each other for different reasons.

                          Huawei's 5G modem problems are in manufacturing, not patents. It looks like those manufacturing issues (5G RF BAW filters for example) have been overcome.

                            Ali2020, 29 Aug 2023It's still better than the dynamic island design on th... moreMaybe I'm misreading your post because I'm still under the influence of Alka Seltzer nighttme fever pills.

                            You think people are going to stop buying iPhones because Huawei took the notch and sliced it into three pieces like a loaf of bread?

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                              • 29 Aug 2023

                              ASL, 29 Aug 2023they can, but the tech is patented. you don't get it ?... morePatent have time
                              Coca cola patent is already expired by now

                              Second,
                              No company is able to forbid Huawei using their 5G patent
                              Because Huawei then will retaliate and that company can't produced 5G.

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                                • 29 Aug 2023

                                Kirin 9000S

                                5nm

                                1x 2.62 GHz
                                3x 2.15 GHz
                                4x 1.53 GHz

                                Maleoon 910 GPU

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                                  Anonymous, 29 Aug 202312nm5nm

                                    Dr. Watson, 29 Aug 2023Huh... I guess the design did end up looking a lot better t... moreI agree 100% with that opinión.

                                    Internally there's a lot going on with 5G and the new chipset. Those are major steps forward independently of performance.

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                                      • 29 Aug 2023

                                      Not sure about that two-tone design, I prefer Google's solution. But nevertheless, camera performance is going to be stellar as always.

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