MediaTek develops first 3nm chip using TSMC process technology
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- Anonymous
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- 10 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 09 Sep 2023for Geekbench....you said it all...we as developers have al... moreIt's not me, it's media...since Apple A7 they told us Apple was 2 years ahead...
I understand since many how you can build a benchmark to give credits to some hardware.
You've a dev?
Compilation with Arm V9 exists...you should update your compiler.
I think some apps already use it...such as Chrome (the real one, not the one on iOS/iPadOS with Safari's outdated engine on it).
I'm fine with V8, but I didn't spend over 1000€ on my devices.
Nevertheless, more and more apps will have V9 versions in next years...
Apple won't benefits of that...
Like Ray-tracing acceleration...not any word from you on Mac Pro about that...it's reality, overpriced devices, outdated and very difficult to upgrade (Ram, graphic cards...)
Like AV1 hardware decoder...not any word from you about this. Don't tell it doesn't exist, there are many 4k/av1 on Youtube.
My 399€ Oneplus Nord 2 reads AV1 since july 2021
My 37.99 Amazon Fire Stick 4k Max does the same since december 2021.
8299€ Mac Pro has to software decode!
As you spend money on the most expensive devices, everything should be top tier, everything should be ready for next years.
Planned obsolescence...Nothing more
Like on Mac Mini...you won't be able to upgrade your NVME, you're forced to spend extra 230€ for extra 256Go storage (when it should cost 20€), the same with extra Ram over 8Go...in 2 years MacOS will need 12Go and you will have to buy a new one...
A company like Apple, with all the money they earn, shouldn't need 4 years to develop 5g...if they don't want to, why the hell they spend money on Intel's modem?
Nothing to tell about technologies, you're forced to critisize my english...true, you can, that's not my native tongue.
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- DeepIn2U
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- 09 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023Apple trying to hoard the TSMC 3nm
But perhaps that plan f... moreNot sure what the phones you've mentioned are unless they look similar in total design which I'm guessing you mean?
Either way its not just phones Apple wants to increase their 3nm chip orderwith TSMC but their computer lineup as they're fully Apple Silicon design chips now based on ARM Inc architecure.
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- SuperSpruce
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- 09 Sep 2023
SpiritWolf, 07 Sep 2023Neural processing is a marketing term, nothing more. Just l... moreI'm not so sure about that. I get the impression that neural processing is about the level of AI processing that can be done on the phone, which can be useful in some cases.
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- Anonymous
- nDy
- 09 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 09 Sep 2023V9 is useless...
According to? Geekbench? The benchmark wh... more"Apple isn't able to make it's own, crying for help and sign an other contract with Broadcom to help them with 5G (a billions deal in may 2023). 4 years since they bought Intel's Modem division...ridiculous!"
Companies are run by PEOPLE....so "its own" its relative...people who build the first 5G maybe is not on that company anymore so that means that company did not build its first 5G?!?! Jesus Christ, yes this is ridiculous
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- Anonymous
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- 09 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 09 Sep 2023V9 is useless...
According to? Geekbench? The benchmark wh... morefor Geekbench....you said it all...we as developers have almost no use for mobile v9 for useful apps not for benchmakrs tests
Its futile to buy a gas car in a country that electric car is a must...to understand what i mean
I dont waste time with people who just discuss these things just to contradict the reality
If you use your mobile just to run benchmarks apps than yes, V9 is useful for you and for you only, bye
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- Anonymous
- pfP
- 09 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023 no Arm V9
- no Ray-tracing acceleration
- no AV1 hardwar... moreV9 is useless...
According to? Geekbench? The benchmark which tests Android's Arm V9 soc with...Arm V8 instructions set!
Who pay the développement of this free benchmark? I have my Idea!
Apple developpes Ray-tracing in its own way...seems it's a way on which a 8299€ Mac Pro M2 Ultra does 3D professionnal rendering slower than a 2500€ non pro PC...absolutelty fabulous way to do!
If Apple was greedy AND capable, they didn't sign a contract with Qualcomm until 2024.
Unisoc has its own 5G technology...
Apple isn't able to make it's own, crying for help and sign an other contract with Broadcom to help them with 5G (a billions deal in may 2023). 4 years since they bought Intel's Modem division...ridiculous!
Iphone 14 still use Broadcom's bluetooth/wifi...
Is Wifi 6 on 14 Pro Max a top tier techno when 6E is available and Qualcomm's and Mediatek's soc are Wifi 7 ready?
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- Zuzuz
- mA@
- 08 Sep 2023
Anton., 07 Sep 2023pixels should bring this instead of that exynos crapIf they do, chrome and some other apps will be out from Samsung.
That's the only way acceptable for Samsung to support the loses from China market because of the USA sanctions.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023Apple don't care...
They ask production over their ne... more no Arm V9
- no Ray-tracing acceleration
- no AV1 hardware décoder
- no 5G modem (Apple bought Intel's modem in late 2019...still nothing!)
- no wifi/bluetooth (using Broadcom's chip).
You won't read this anywhere but it's facts!
V9 is irelevant, see those who already have it
Ray tracing, Apple is going their own route making hardware Ray tracing in the gpu core itself
They have still until 2024 included a legal partnership with QC to do 5g Modems, so why waste money since they are obligated and we know Apple is too greedy to have 2 modems at the same time and lose money
Broadcom's they dont need it since the latest iphone 14 series are using top tier SoC for that and for satellite communication included into that
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Sep 2023
This is good to hear, and hopefuly true because we already know that Apple bought the whole 3nm TSMC production for 2024
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- AnonD-1104158
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- 08 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023Taiwan is a US partner. Are you thinking, Mediatek and TSM... moreDifferent business policies
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- AnonD-1104158
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- 08 Sep 2023
Best chip in the world
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- Bigmeme
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- 08 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 07 Sep 2023So isn't Qualcomm supposed to use Nvidia's or ori... moreSnapdragon 8 gen 4 will launched in Q4 of 2024. So still a lot of time
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023Apple trying to hoard the TSMC 3nm
But perhaps that plan f... moreApple don't care...
They ask production over their needs and have the money for that...
The they put old soc on new devices.
In 2022 :
- A16 on iphone 14 Pro/Pro Max
- A15 on iphone 14/14 Plus or Apple TV
- A14 on iPad Gen 10
It's a way to limit their competitors as they loose their main engineers (for exemple Gerard William III)...
Apple is late on tons of technologies :
- no Arm V9
- no Ray-tracing acceleration
- no AV1 hardware décoder
- no 5G modem (Apple bought Intel's modem in late 2019...still nothing!)
- no wifi/bluetooth (using Broadcom's chip).
You won't read this anywhere but it's facts!
Overated technically...money is used to hide this.
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- Anonymous
- XUv
- 08 Sep 2023
DeepIn2U, 08 Sep 2023How si thsi possible with current confirmed reports of Appl... moreApple trying to hoard the TSMC 3nm
But perhaps that plan failed
Because sales in China will not be as much as Apple expected due to Huawei Rebel 60 (I mean Huawei Mate 60 series)
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- Anonymous
- T84
- 08 Sep 2023
AnonD-1104158, 07 Sep 2023Unfortunately they cant because usa would bash and bias the... moreTaiwan is a US partner.
Are you thinking, Mediatek and TSMC are China companies? 🤔
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 08 Sep 2023For me is 7nm chip, good enough.Depending on the price & yields. New tech 3nm will be expensive.
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- DeepIn2U
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- 08 Sep 2023
How si thsi possible with current confirmed reports of Apple ramping up purchasing ALL of TSMC's 3nm production utnil the end of 2023 (A17, M3/M3 Pro/M3 Max/M3 Ultra SoC/APUs)?!
Also with a sliver of production from Qualcomm for their 8 Gen 3 SoC's as well?
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Sep 2023
For me is 7nm chip, good enough.
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- Anonymous
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- 07 Sep 2023
So isn't Qualcomm supposed to use Nvidia's or orion's chips in gen4? Which should be wayyy more powerful than arm's chips how are they gonna do it if apple and mediatek has occupied almost all tsmc 3nm chips🤔?
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- Phone Critic
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- 07 Sep 2023
Dimensity from Mediatek is ahead of Qualcomm
3nm
D10000
Cortex X4 3.5GHz
Cortex X3 (2) 3.2GHz
Adreno730 (4) 2.94GHz
Adreno715 (4) 2.56GHz
2024
2.1 Million Antutu Score V10
Yep indeed
Mediatek New Killer Chip is gonna kill the Competition 👀