Rumor: Sony Xperia 1 VI is coming at the MWC 2024 with large-sensor 6x camera
- Denis Thomas
- nmL
- 17 Sep 2023
SuuperBaka, 17 Sep 2023"Just because you guys want to be brainwashed fans tha... moreAnd here you are, ranting about phones by writing entire articles. Oh I forgot. It's a Sony post. There are always trolls who boo hooing on others who like certain phones. How can they? That's absurd.
How about letting us buy what we like instead? It's been decades that people like you are ranting on Sony posts. Maybe get a hobby or something? That's unhealthy. I mean.., it's been SO MANY years.
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- Cekehhh
- KLU
- 17 Sep 2023
let's be honest all phone start doesn't make any sense when the price is 1000$ dollar you can use that money for something else that's actually more usefull to your life but Sony i don't know why it's just i kinda enjoy their spirit and their direction on Flagship Phone From fixing Overheating Issue to improving Auto Mode on the Photography side i'm kinda invested on where they are going from here.
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- J.i.m.y
- tEZ
- 17 Sep 2023
Sony need more premium package for device. Great for green, but its need feel premium if you pay for premium. Sorry on my place its like place for store eggs first i saw
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- Anonymous
- qqb
- 17 Sep 2023
SuuperBaka, 17 Sep 2023"Yeah that makes sense. Because I'm being factual... moreRiiiiight... I'm the one not making sense..... cause defending a company for over charging, lacking compared to others in multiple hardware aspects, and even not being able to properly optimize their non existent software because that would otherwise be charity is what makes sense instead...
I'm the one that doesn't know what I'm talking about..... that makes sense..........
I guess you're side tracking continues on as does theirs.
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- Anonymous
- Ib8
- 17 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Sony has the money, tech, and brand recognition to do way m... moreI might check out the 1 VI if it has a large sensor. I have an S23U but have been disappointed with the camera performance
- SuuperBaka
- xJq
- 17 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2023Just because you guys want to be brainwashed fans that want... more"Just because you guys want to be brainwashed fans that want to give a company excuses doesn't mean I need educated."
Nobody is brainwashed, but you definitely need to be educated. Please don't talk about something you don't know about.
"You're the one literally defending, giving excuses, and side tracking for a company over charging worse than Apple and Samsung while also saving millions compared to others in hardware, software, marketing, and carrier/regional release/availability"
I'm not "giving excuses", I'm pointing out the fact that Sony's prices are due to how they positioned themselves in the market. Let's go over this:
Hardware: They provide almost the same hardware as every other flagship
Software: This is one of their weak points and I do think they can improve on this, but they don't have as much resources as Apple and Samsung for this. Sony's mobile division is very small compared to others, they don't make as much money to reinvest back into this.
Marketing: They don't have many regions to market since they've lost a lot of regions. In the places they do market, they seem to be doing well enough to sell such as Taiwan and China. They can definitely improve on this regardless, but that's all based on how much they make.
Carrier/regional release/availability: They don't have many regions to sell in because they re-positioned themselves to stop losing money. They stayed in the areas where they can actually sell and pulled out of everywhere else, a smart business move, a logical one. They don't want to bleed money like LG, they understand they can't compete in an oversaturated market with lower-end smartphones, so they decided to stick to flagship/midrange instead.
Availability is due to the fact that they are most likely the last to get their orders from suppliers since they are smaller than the others, which in turn leads to a delayed release. It's not hard to see why they release so late, but they have made improvements to this.
"yet say I'm the one needing educated😂😂"
Yes, you do need to be educated, you lack any business knowledge and cry instead.
"Please learn to logic before commenting."
Please learn how to formulate a proper sentence before commenting. You have no logical arguments, you have no knowledge, and you only cry and reply in a desperate attempt to "win" some sort of argument over the internet (when you actually end up losing anyway).
Once you get exposed and your flawed argument falls apart, you resort to going in circles and not addressing the points discussed. You can stay as an anonymous user, it doesn't matter, I know it's you based on your argument or if I see rN7.
Let me throw your own words back at you:
"Why are you commenting about a topic you have zero knowledge about?"
"Please learn to logic before commenting"
- SuuperBaka
- xJq
- 17 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Yeah that makes sense. Because I'm being factual and r... more"Yeah that makes sense. Because I'm being factual and realistic instead of blinding making excuses for a company means I'm the one who has zero knowledge here....thats logical...."
You aren't being factual or realistic. You're speaking with no knowledge on the topic. You are the complete opposite of logical. I can always refer back to our previous discussions to show all the logical fallacies you've committed.
Please don't talk about logic, you have no right to do that.
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- Anonymous
- I@H
- 17 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 17 Sep 2023Just because you guys want to be brainwashed fans that want... morehe/she has a point...
educate yourself on things you know nothing about or at least do not spread your ign...nce...
technology seemed to be platued since people like you always scream cheaper price yet you fail to uncover what has been improved...
maybe you prefer a full accessory with a phone that has aged old technology, worst, a mimic of aged old technology...
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 17 Sep 2023
SuuperBaka, 16 Sep 2023"Its hilarious you keep coming up with brainwashed fan... moreJust because you guys want to be brainwashed fans that want to give a company excuses doesn't mean I need educated. You're the one literally defending, giving excuses, and side tracking for a company over charging worse than Apple and Samsung while also saving millions compared to others in hardware, software, marketing, and carrier/regional release/availability...yet say I'm the one needing educated😂😂
Please learn to logic before commenting.
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 16 Sep 2023
PhoneFreak45, 16 Sep 2023It's prohibitively difficult 😞 it's instinct to s... moreWhy i should I believe fanboy pretend knowledge which is just fairytale and fansheeple stuff when I already have real knowledge of facts???
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 16 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Capacitative side fingerprint sensor also can't work w... moreOk? Then that would mean the optical one would also not work
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 16 Sep 2023
SuuperBaka, 16 Sep 2023Please don't listen to them, they have no knowledge of... moreYeah that makes sense. Because I'm being factual and realistic instead of blinding making excuses for a company means I'm the one who has zero knowledge here....thats logical....
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- PhoneFreak45
- qbk
- 16 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Capacitative side fingerprint sensor also can't work w... moreAt least one fragment of dust doesn't make it useless
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- Anonymous
- vjX
- 16 Sep 2023
PhoneFreak45, 16 Sep 2023Good cause I hate them.. unreliable when your hand is remot... moreCapacitative side fingerprint sensor also can't work well when your finger is dirty.
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- PhoneFreak45
- qbk
- 16 Sep 2023
SuuperBaka, 16 Sep 2023Please don't listen to them, they have no knowledge of... moreIt's prohibitively difficult 😞 it's instinct to spread knowledge, I guess some people just don't want to believe it
- SuuperBaka
- xJq
- 16 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Its hilarious you keep coming up with brainwashed fan excus... more"Its hilarious you keep coming up with brainwashed fan excuses that change nothing."
It's hilarious that you continue to talk about a subject you have no knowledge about. Please go educate yourself first on tech and business.
"They could be leaders in mobile division and making way more profit. Instead incompetent leaders hold them down as bottom dwellers price gouging and ripping people off with inferior more expensive phones."
This is why you can't be taken seriously. You don't understand how oversaturated the market is right now. Sony will not be able to compete with Samsung and all those Chinese companies who flood the market with garbage phones.
A few flagships mean nothing when they release 25 models of the same-looking phone. LG tried to be unique and attract customers, but they didn't have a proper identity so they had to pull out. Sony has kept itself in a niche market where it started making a profit now.
Whether it's overpriced or not doesn't matter because as a business, they are doing what they're supposed to. You don't have to purchase their phones, but they do have features that others lack, those are the things people want and Sony is one of the few, if not the only manufacturer that has it.
Sony "ripping" people off by providing the latest specs like the other flagships. Funny.
- SuuperBaka
- xJq
- 16 Sep 2023
PhoneFreak45, 16 Sep 2023Why is it always the anons with the cold takes 🤣 I'd b... morePlease don't listen to them, they have no knowledge of the subject they're commenting about.
Always the anonymous people
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- Anonymous
- xjb
- 16 Sep 2023
Please I will to order
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- PhoneFreak45
- qbk
- 16 Sep 2023
Anonymous, 16 Sep 2023Its hilarious you keep coming up with brainwashed fan excus... moreDamn, doesn't even know what brainwashed means. Who do you think brainwashed me? All the Sony marketing saying Sony phones are great somehow influenced my brainwaves to make excuses for them? I mean how can I even begin to listen to your argument when you don't even understand the meaning of basic words. You're implying I was brainwashed by Sony, who has very little marketing period nevermind marketing supposedly "excusing" their "terrible" mobile division. If a company is delivering a product that no one else is, which Sony is because they're the ONLY company making flagship phones with expandable storage and wired audio, they're well within their rights to charge more for that product. They have no competition, they're not obligated to compete price wise because for their target audience they have quite literally no competition. However, the principles of business still apply here. With the money they get from phone sales, they need to pay the designers and builders, and they need to pay for the hardware, and pay their software development team. Despite this horrible overcharging you claim, Sony still earns less profit than Samsung would from that portion of their sales, thanks to a lower number of units sold. They don't get bulk prices, or any sort of number discount, and they have comparatively low profit margins due to the number of units they sell. The more a product you manufacturer, the cheaper it becomes to manufacture. Sony doesn't manufacturer very many units, because they don't have as much demand, therefore they have higher costs of production and lower profit margins which need to be subsidized by higher prices. This isn't price gouging, this is business. You have a severe lack of understanding of how business works. If you can look at all the many differences between Sony's smartphone division, and Samsung's smartphone division, and think that Sony's price premium isn't both necessary and justified, you don't understand business. Sorry, but I don't feel the need to bow to someone who is making claims with little to no understanding of business. I stand by my claim that Sony is a business and not a charity. It's obviously true, and it relates heavily to the criticism Sony phones recieve. They cost more than their Samsung counterparts, and they receive fewer software updates, but this all completely justified when you consider the scale of the company. Hemorrhaging money is the exact reason LG closed their mobile division. They weren't making enough profit to not be a weight holding the company down, and they were investing too much in new things. Charging competitive prices and increasing software updates would put Sony phones in the same place as LG phones were - Great value for money, but costing a ridiculous amount to sustain. I suppose if Sony closed their mobile division someone like you would say goodbye and good riddance, but I happen to like Sony phones, so I say no thank you to lowering prices and increasing software updates. If you like a product line and want it to stick around, you have to accept whatever a sustainable business model looks like for the company. This is what that looks like for Sony. Clearly you don't like that, but then again you're not the target audience for Sony phones, so your opinion doesn't matter to them. You're not the customer, and you don't have the knowledge to understand why they need to operate the way they do. You're essentially blindly attacking Sony. Instead of a drunkard in the dark, you're an undereducated individual who feels the need to share their opinion. Both equally damaging to those who don't know how to deal with them. Luckily when people have an opinion that isn't backed up whatsoever by anything provable, it's very easy to form a rebuttal. However I wanted to make this complicated - because I'm tired of people complaining about Sony phones pricing and updates, with no real knowledge of how business works. Whether it flys over your head and nets another undereducated and blindly angry reply or not, I don't care. I also don't care if you call me a shill - it means nothing coming from someone who doesn't understand the fundamental reasons why someone may like any company's products.
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- Anonymous
- rN7
- 16 Sep 2023
you have to suffer, 16 Sep 2023Sony fans are non comparable between two mainstream, yet bo... moreNon comparable is correct. They leave the way Apple fans used to be to shame.