Qualcomm unveils Snapdragon 7s Gen 2 – a 4nm chipset for the midrange

18 September 2023
The new SoC is less powerful than any other 7-series chip.

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SpicyCatGames, 24 Dec 2023Benchmarks don't tell everything. The Samsung ones use... moreI know that video and we talk different things here which either you ignored or you don't understand.

1. In that video it's Tsmc 4nm vs Samsung 4nm, here we are talking about Tsmc 6nm vs Samsung 4nm

2. In that video it's Cortex A710 manufactured in Samsung node where two inferior tech met together here we talk about more efficient core A78.

Now we have more data from same guy Geekerwan to prove what I said


https://www.socpk.com/cpucurve

Snapdragon 4 gen 2 is made by Samsung you can compare it to Dimensity 900, 810, 700, G99 Sd 695, Sd 4 gen 1 etc.

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    Mediatek sux, 18 Sep 2023Rip Mediatek Have you checked the new dimensity cpus? Better than this. My phones battery actually lasts 2 days now.

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      Hemedans, 19 Sep 2023Yes but here there are two gap, Samsung is 4nm while Tsmc i... moreBenchmarks don't tell everything. The Samsung ones use up too much power to reach the same performance. Meaning, in the real world when the phone will throttle due to heat and lack of power, Samsung will perform worse. Even if peak performance is the same. https://youtu.be/s0ukXDnWlTY

        Lovelandmark, 22 Sep 2023The scores are comparable to SD 778 meaning that we're... moreYup, at this point I'm mostly concerned about efficiency and that will be hard to achieve if they use A710 cores. Let's hope full specs come out soon.

          ashrobb, 21 Sep 2023Either they keep it at A78/A55 or go all the way with the A... moreThe scores are comparable to SD 778 meaning that we're probably looking at a SD778v2. Then again, SD7 G1 used 1+3 A710 / 4 A510 and scored virtually the same as SD778, at least CPU wise. It's less likely to be A715/A510 (2022) though since if it did, it should've crushed D7200 or even D8100, yet it only beat the former.

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            ashrobb, 19 Sep 2023Yes. If you do a little research you see how Android needs ... moreI guess is true. First few weeks after I bought Samsung A54 5G, the battery life was horrible compared to Poco F2 Pro. But now, it is better compared to the first few weeks. Especially now the phone has more apps installed and more workload.
            But performance wise, it is much worse compared to Poco F2 Pro.
            Use it mainly for Whatsapp, in Poco F2 Pro I can quickly send photos without needing to wait for the thumbnails to load. However, A54 I need to wait until the thumbnails loaded then only I can click the folder and send it. Or else, the app will freeze

              Lovelandmark, 20 Sep 2023Calling it a mere rebrand is slightly incorrect. Even if th... moreEither they keep it at A78/A55 or go all the way with the A715/A510(tweaked). If they make this on A710/A510(first release) plus the Samsung fab process, it will suffer the same fate all phones with the 7 Gen 1 have: mediocre thermals and underwhelming battery life.

                Anonymous , 19 Sep 2023This is just a rebrand of 778G/780G but overclocked. The 7+... moreCalling it a mere rebrand is slightly incorrect. Even if the internals are shared with SD 778/780/782, do remember the 7s G2 is fabbed under Samsung 4nm node. So, technically a brand-new silicon, but no major change whatsoever.

                I'd be surprised if the CPU cores are actually A710/A510-based instead of CPUs from SD778. In that case, 7s G2 might be a compelling choice. That is, if it doesn't toast as its Samsung fab suggest

                  It's all about da money dawg, ain't no way they don't earn dat dolla bills yo,

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                    Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023I can't take anyone seriously who thinks any Exynos fr... moreExynos 9825 is good, actually.
                    And in lower end, Exynos 1330 also great.

                    But that's basically it.

                      SuperSpruce, 19 Sep 2023Considering this has (xA78 cores and 4xA55 cores and a lowe... moreGen = year of release. Gen 1 = 2022, Gen 2 = 2023, Gen 3 = 2024. Just care about the name, don't care about the gen. We have 7s < 7 < 7+

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                        SuperSpruce, 19 Sep 2023Considering this has (xA78 cores and 4xA55 cores and a lowe... moreThis is just a rebrand of 778G/780G but overclocked. The 7+ g2 was too good to be true because it is basically a flagship SoC for much cheaper. I guess they changed their mind and don't want to offer that chip for 7 series pricing.

                        This chip is old and boring, although it will still gets the job done for most people. and I also agree it should be call 6 series at this point.

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                          Hemedans, 19 Sep 2023Man you are just avoiding the truth Samsung 4nm is inferior... moreI can't take anyone seriously who thinks any Exynos from the past 5 years is good.

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                            Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023Unpopular opinion: 7s gen 2 will never beat snapdragon 778G... moreSnapdragon 7s gen 2 has better CPU than 778

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                              SuperSpruce, 19 Sep 2023Considering this has (xA78 cores and 4xA55 cores and a lowe... moreSnapdragon 7s gen 2 is better than Dimensity 1080 lets go

                                Considering this has (xA78 cores and 4xA55 cores and a lower Antutu score than the 7G1, this should be called the 6G2, 6+G1, or even 790/784. It's basically a 782G chip but with 4nm. There is a massive gap between this chip and the 7+G2.

                                  DVSeal, 19 Sep 2023You make a good point. Most phones do indeed take up to a f... moreYes. If you do a little research you see how Android needs to meet a few conditions (unknown to most users) to optimize properly. Conditions that most people don't do anymore in many cases, because they imply slow charging methods and actually leaving your phone plugged in, fully charged and idle for a few hours. Without this behaviour, you'll never have a fully optimized OS unless you trigger it yourself via terminal or ADB.

                                  That's probably why Google is introducing a new compilation service for ART optimization with Android 14. Hopefully it will be easier to trigger it now
                                  https://source.android.com/docs/core/runtime/configure/art-service?hl=en

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                                    Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023snapdragon 695 is just pure nonsense, just a glorified 4 ge... moreexactly

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                                      ashrobb, 18 Sep 2023Real life usage I get far more battery life with the Note 1... moreYou make a good point. Most phones do indeed take up to a few weeks to learn habits and optimize for charging and battery life. Which does create the issue with the 1 week reviews :/

                                        Anonymous, 19 Sep 2023The nm number is irrelevant, you have to compare transistor... moreMan you are just avoiding the truth Samsung 4nm is inferior to only Tsmc 5nm and Intel 7nm (intel 4), you can check any website you trust in these matters

                                        Samsung 4nm is 137 MTr/mm²
                                        Tsmc 6nm 114.2 MTr/mm²
                                        Intel 10nm 100.8 MTr/mm²

                                        So definetely Samsung is better there.

                                        But Tsmc 5nm and Intel 4 are better

                                        Tsmc 5nm has over 170 MTr/mm²
                                        Intel 4 has over 200 MTr/mm²
                                        Tsmc 3nm has 215 MTr/mm²

                                        So for soc like sd 4 gen 2 and Exynos 1330 you get amazing deals because at that price point no Tsmc 5nm/4nm is available, you get superior node, at flagship level of course better you pick Tsmc one,

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