Google Pixel 8 and 8 Pro debut with Tensor G3, new ultrawide cameras

04 October 2023
The Pixel 8 shrinks down to a 6.2-inch display but it's now 120Hz-ready.

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  • 09 Oct 2023

AnonD-1121190, 07 Oct 2023ar u so naive that google will have it made in us a??/ don&... moresorry do you have issues? you may think it ugly but it isn't looking like any other phone out there who are trying to riff on the iPhone design or the millions of plain-looking slabs that are out there. As an iPhone and Pixel user, there is a ton of difference and I actually like the way Pixel photos look compared to Apple. The keyboard is another area I type way better on a pixel keyboard compared to an Apple keyboard that is actually quite dumb when it comes to corrections etc. I mean I could do a list but it would be a waste with your mindset.

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    • 07 Oct 2023

    dcdev, 05 Oct 2023Because the last one was in the top camera phones. But I d... moreif this exact same looking phone would be called infinix or vivo or basically from chinese nobody would even click here.. maybe 10 15 ppl... 🤷‍♂️

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      • 07 Oct 2023

      yes, 05 Oct 2023all phone are manufactured in China/Taiwan or Vietnam. Look... moreThe design is ugly... and if this google phone wouldn't be called ''goggle'' nobody would even look at it...

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        • 07 Oct 2023

        Sjimmie , 04 Oct 2023Quiz time name that phone that has not been made in China o... morear u so naive that google will have it made in us a??/ don't be ridiculous.. apple might jealous then 😅

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          • 06 Oct 2023

          I like how pixel 8 looks but make pixle 9 look like pixel 6

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            • 06 Oct 2023

            This still has samsung 5G modem.

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              • Anonymous
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              • 06 Oct 2023

              Just seen a Dpreview article about the Pixel 8 Pro/8 and it spreads misinformation about Quad Bayer sensors. It's a common misunderstanding that Quad Bayer sensors would be only limited by "color resolution" and not by "luminance resolution".
              A Bayer sensor or a Quad Bayer sensor doesn't capture luminance data because you need red, green and blue values for each pixel in the image in order to assign a luminance value to each pixel in the image. Bayer/Quad Bayer sensors don't have "white" pixels. You would get a very different image, if you took a high resolution photo with a "monochrome" sensor and then assign colors from a low resolution color image. This wouldn't look like a Quad Bayer image at all.
              A red pixel only captures a part of the light spectrum, so it doesn't give you a luminance value, which is related to the total visible spectrum. Therefore, Quad Bayer sensors produce specific artifacts that are also visible, when you convert the image to black and white. These artifacts reduce the "luminance resolution", so Quad Bayer sensors don't have the same luminance resolution as Bayer sensors.

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                • 05 Oct 2023

                Expensive, waiting game or 8a.

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                  • 05 Oct 2023

                  Nice phone especially the 8 pro but the price is quite high best to wait half a year for it to be discounted.

                  Continuation from the 6 Pro with the good selling 7 Pro andnl now the 8 Pro seems Google finally cracked the code to sell the numbers.

                  Also the improved software support is a thumbs up 👍🏻

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                    • 05 Oct 2023

                    I think the most exciting camera upgrades of the Pro are:

                    -high resolution modes that can be chosen even in low light conditions and can be used with Night Sight and can be saved as dng files and can be used with all three cameras, allegedly now even the astrophotography mode supports 50 megapixels (though it's not clear whether the astrophotography mode supports the periscope camera)
                    -manual focus/iso/shutter speed, which can be used with the high resolution modes, but it's not clear how this works because Google says that HDR+ is still active when you use the manual settings, but when you choose for example a 3s exposure time, it's physically impossible that HDR+ can combine multiple 3s exposures within 3 seconds.
                    I don't like that there is now more effort, when you want to choose the brightness and white balance sliders
                    -periscope camera with 18% larger effective lens diameter, which could maybe increase the sharpness of distant objects by a tiny bit due to less diffraction, even though the focal length is slightly shorter, one needs to wait for comparisons at 10x, 15x zoom settings

                    Of course the larger lenses of the main camera and ultra wide angle camera are nice, too and the autofocus of the selfie camera or the improved laser autofocus.
                    And videos now seem to combine a bright and a dark exposure for every frame.

                    But Google 's video boost feature, which is something like HDR+/Night Sight for videos and combines more than two exposures per frame, seems to be completely unusable, even though it's super fascinating that they try to process every video frame more like a photo now. The processing happens in the cloud. If you record a 4k video for several minutes, you will have to upload gigabytes of data, this can take a lot of time. According to Google, the entire process seems to take a couple of hours.

                      Anonymous, 05 Oct 2023And who will still be using a Pixel 8 in the year 2030? The... moreDid everybody with a car buy a new car in 2023? No.
                      How about everyone owning a TV or computer? No.

                      So not everyone buys the most recent device at any and all times.

                      Some who buy the Pixel 8 (Pro) will keep it as until it stops receiving updates. Some will sell/donate it after X amounts of years and upgrade to a more modern phone. Some Pixel 8 (Pro)'s will be on their eight, or so, owner by the time updates stop.

                      We know some people buy new phones around the $100 mark and below. Devices with next to no support and lackluster hardware, even compared to several year old devices, but at least they have a more recent OS, this will make older devices mich more relevant for buyers in this segment. Yes, the value of these devices will likely hold longer than today, but still deprecate over time.

                        Anonymous, 05 Oct 20237 years of OS and security updates? The battery will be lon... moreSame with the iphone with 5-7 years of os updates, the battery would be the first to die.

                          Anonymous, 05 Oct 2023And who will still be using a Pixel 8 in the year 2030? The... moreYou would be surprised to know that there are still people who uses the iphone 6/6s/6s plus in several third world countries. The secondary market for used iPhones is big.

                            Anonymous, 05 Oct 20237 years of OS and security updates? The battery will be lon... moreSome people will just complain about everything. . .

                            New smartphones, the likes of Pixel 8 and 8 Pro, will still be usable 7 years from now. Even more so than a seven year old smartphone today and we now have 7 year old devices with 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821. Still very much usable devices, though not ideally safe due to outdated software.

                            Some don't want/need/can afford the latest and greatest, so smartphones getting longer support is simply a good thing. Combine this with the upcoming requirement of user replaceable batteries and we have a massive win for consumers.

                            Does it give smartphone manufacturers that also make the OS and run the bundled software store a huge benefit over other manufacturers? Yes, absolutely, as they (Google and apple) will have a steady stream of revenue from the devices in use, not just from the sale of the device.

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                              • 05 Oct 2023

                              I think it's really interesting that they implemented a new periscope camera. It has an effective lens diameter that is 18% larger than previously, which leads to 40% more light from distant objects (in the center of the image) per exposure time and should also increase the sharpness of the lens due to less diffraction!
                              Google states 56% more light, but this includes the light from objects of the additional field of view because the new field of view is slightly wider: 110mm instead of 116.5mm, but I think that distant objects should still look a tiny bit better due to significantly less diffraction, but I am not completely sure and we don't know how sharp the lens really is.
                              Furthermore, the sharpness of the 7 Pro units varied.

                                Anonymous, 05 Oct 2023And who will still be using a Pixel 8 in the year 2030? The... moreIf it works, when why not? I'm still using a Samsung Note 3 from 10 years ago and for browsing, mesaging, music & photos is just fine. So again, if it works I see no problem.

                                  Anonymous, 05 Oct 20237 years of OS and security updates? The battery will be lon... moreThey should've just stuck to 5 years, 7 years is too long anyway. Also, they should've just concentrated on getting their phones released to more countries. So until then, the iPhone still beats them.

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                                    • Anonymous
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                                    • 05 Oct 2023

                                    "a 50MP Octa-PD (phase-detect autofocus)"
                                    According to Sony's website about Dual PD and Octa PD, "PD" stands for photodiode even though phase detection makes more sense as there isn't a microlens above 8 subpixels. It's Quad Bayer Dual Pixel autofocus.
                                    Though it's totally not clear what Google means by Quad PD. This could mean Quad Pixel autofocus (one microlens over four subpixels) or normal Quad Bayer phase detection autofocus (four microlenses over four subpixels). The 7 Pro's specs wrote Quad Bayer PD where PD stands this time for phase detection. But the specs of the Pixel Fold and Pixel 7a state Quad PD, so possibly it's just Google's abbreviation for Quad Bayer PD.

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                                      • 05 Oct 2023

                                      KondriX, 05 Oct 2023And what is your point? Just change the battery and go on. And who will still be using a Pixel 8 in the year 2030? The Pixel 14 will probably be out by then.

                                        Anonymous, 05 Oct 20237 years of OS and security updates? The battery will be lon... moreAnd what is your point? Just change the battery and go on.

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