Chinese court sides with Oppo over Nokia patent dispute
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- 17 Dec 2023
BMHater12, 15 Dec 2023Nokia needs to go, they're the reason why they stopped... moreIf you think this patent trolling is the worst thing Nokia has ever done, Nokia itself has been treating their own licensees like trash, HMD, Flipkart, Honeywell and RichGo included. i.Safe with their rugged terminals will be the next target, even if they aren't a consumer-grade brand.
Even if Nokia wants to get involved in phone production if the winds change inside their abandoned building, they'll make far worse phones that what HMD had been involved in all along. And even worse, they would kill our hopes and affinity towards themselves and their turbulent history
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- 16 Dec 2023
abhijit, 16 Dec 2023I am very neutral about this as each company has a right to... moreI disagree, you can't just haggle licensing fees. That is their fee for their product, you can haggle if you wish to NOT use the license and then haggle until you get a deal where you then CAN use it. But clearly they are trying to haggle in the midst of stealing the tech licenses and not paying for them.
The article title is very true though, it's matter of fact that the chinese court sided with Oppo in this case, your use of the word colony is then a negative and purposeful connotation but this article can be read without your particular interpretation. You've injected the negativity into it.
Sadly the Chinese courts seem to be potentially biased at the moment and it is disappointed but the article states nothing more than the result which is as matter as fact as you can get. I do agree with you that China does need calling out on it's malpractices though.
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- 16 Dec 2023
I am very neutral about this as each company has a right to decide its charges and the other company also has a right to haggle said prices, that said
The article title of "Chinese court sides with Oppo over Nokia patent dispute" is such a pathetic way of putting it. I will oppose China all day for the crap that country pulls all the time.
But still, it does not justify writing such a biase article, imagine writing "European court supports European company against Chinese company which is a former colony".
Back then, the article supported the Courts but now it is a different country so this kind of a comment is not correct.
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- 16 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2023This doesn't seem to be crucial patent for humanity. I... moreThe point of FRAND licensing is that everyone should have the same access and pay the same reasonable licence fee for the use of an essential patent. The Court would have evidence of the reasonable licence fee everyone else has been paying for use of the patent and Nokia cannot charge Oppo anymore than the reasonable licence fee everyone else is paying. Oppo has alleged that they're being overcharged by Nokia and the Chinese courts have now set the reasonable licence fee that they should pay for the use of the patent. The European courts have yet to rule on this but if they apply the same FRAND principles, they should come to the same conclusion.
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- 16 Dec 2023
Some posters seem a little confused here. So, as a reminder -
China is not a democratic country.
It is a one party state run by the Chinese Communist Party.
There is no separation between the judicial system and the state. They are not independent. They do not make independent decisions.
The courts implement the policies of the CCP.
Now you see ?
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- 16 Dec 2023
Marco M, 15 Dec 2023Apple has nothing to do with this case. . .
If you don&#... moreYour argument makes sense, but what you missed is that the Chinese court is deciding here and it's not that OPPO should pay what all the other companies are paying around the world, but a "special" China price.
Nokia spent Billions on R&D 5G development, technology without which your phone simply cannot do 5G. This court thinks that's worth $0.70 ?
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- 16 Dec 2023
notafanboy, 15 Dec 2023Sounds like you only read the title and jumped to a conclus... moreSounds like you're the one incapable of reading. Weirdo fan boy.
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- 16 Dec 2023
Marco M, 15 Dec 2023How about you read the article and not just the headline? O... moreActually, you should be the one reading the article.
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- 15 Dec 2023
Ss, 15 Dec 2023Meh, US basically want to abolish huawei hold of patent and... morePlease mention 5 actually practical patent developed by Chinese firms
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- 15 Dec 2023
A group of pirates sitting on wet benches gave a slap on the wrist to another bunch of pirates mopping the wet floors. Here's the fun part: both groups belong to the same band of sea lubbers.
Yaaarrrrrr piracy done becoming a risky sport matey.
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- 15 Dec 2023
You were one of the big enablers of the China centric greed production, Nokia. Hard to feel sorry for you.
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- 15 Dec 2023
Anonymous, 15 Dec 2023Nokia and BlackBerry are just patent trolls at this point. ... morePatent trolls? Intellectual property is a law that any company that felt was infringed can pursue. It's a payoff for their investment. Oppo can go ahead and create their own tech if they don't like it.
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- 15 Dec 2023
Marco M, 15 Dec 2023Apple has nothing to do with this case. . .
If you don&#... moreHow is oppo being treated unfairly when other pay what nokia asks?
Oppo is wrong.
Simple.
1) Pay to use.
2) Refuse to pay, dont use and create own tech.
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- 15 Dec 2023
Marco M, 15 Dec 2023Apple has nothing to do with this case. . .
If you don&#... moreIt is an example. Apple has done same to other.
The " I am gonna pay you the money I think it is worth, not the amount you think it is worth! "
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- 15 Dec 2023
Marco M, 15 Dec 2023Actually this is where FRAND comes in, to have fair, reason... moreThis doesn't seem to be crucial patent for humanity. If it's crucial patent for you, you will have to pay the price that the provider asks. That's the reason the provider is putting in the effort and money to develop that technology and get patent.
If it's something related to life threatening issues or something, then that can be fine. Even in that case the regulators should be fair to the patent creator, so that they don't demotivate them from innovation.
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- 15 Dec 2023
rosesarerosie, 15 Dec 2023They made and make good phones Something Nokia haven'... moreThis is different Nokia. Nokia telecommunication.
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- 15 Dec 2023
X, 15 Dec 2023Shocker! China has been stealing everything it can, breachi... moreMeh, US basically want to abolish huawei hold of patent and use it freely also western own media said that modern patents is mostly produced by china.
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- 15 Dec 2023
Ouifuf, 15 Dec 2023Issue is Nokia might want more money from the deal. If othe... moreI see, thanks. Greed is a b*tch though.