The Kirin 9000s loses to its nearly 3-year older predecessor in benchmarks

20 December 2023
The new chip is inferior to its predecessor from a technical standpoint.

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Huawei would have dominated the world in Telecommunications had US believe in fair competition. No other company in the world would have survived let alone flourish with the western ban. What Huawei had achieved is unbelievable despite the adversities. Innovations after innovations, there's no stopping them. One thing for sure, Samsung would have given up making mobile phones if US did not deprive Huawei of chips and software. So the real winner of the sanctions is Samsung. Now let's look at Samsung Galaxy ZFold6, it's so devoid of innovation even the most die hard of Samsung fans would find it hard to buy one. I predict that Samsung will abandon the mobile phone market before the turn of the decade.

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    Anonymous, 20 Dec 2023I wonder what will the Chinese government say about their c... moreWe have run out of Kirin chips produced by other countries. What you can see now is China Kirin chips independently developed and manufactured by China.

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      jayDAWG, 22 Dec 2023All your replies are "my kirin phone is better than ev... moreMan… you don’t understand… every blog about Kirin is flooded with Chinese propaganda. Seriously. It’s a thing and they make it obvious.
      Linus spoke on it on the WANshow too.

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        Notafanboy-Fanboy, 20 Dec 2023I think you are misinformed. Nokia, for example, is goi... moreLol you’re saying the same thing for years and years already wake up and face reality that your love of your life Huawei apart from China is all but alive in the rest of the world. Oh Huawei was so great and would be ok without GMS and all, right they vanished completely. All the tech innovation is lost because only China will see that, the rest of the world not. One large competitor is gone in the global market. Just face it: Huawei is gone. It will be gone as long as it stays this way without fully supported Android OS. A simple fact. Don’t hold on to the past and admit your wrongs and stop being a clown and ridicule yourself in front of all of us.

          Geekbench scores for the 9000s were out fairly early plus the predecessor was 5nm and the current is 7nm. Supposedly the new P-series phone will be 5nm.

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            justasmile, 20 Dec 2023This is why you don't go for flagship devices with Kir... moreMaybe this Kirin chipset wasn't designed to be the bets performer and Huawei could develop another chipset that is more advanced.

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              Nick Tegrataker, 22 Dec 2023Not terrible for the first try (to build the chip without r... moreNitpicking here, but that's without reliance on European and Taiwanese tech:

              CPU and GPU by ARM (United Kingdom)

              4G, 5G, and many other radio standards by mostly Ericsson and Nokia (Sweden and Finland)

              Chip manufacturing expertise by TSMC (Taiwan)

              Litography machines by ASML (Netherlands)

              Litography technology research by Imec (Belgium)

                Rly, 21 Dec 2023No hope for you my kid, you dont understand nothing... Feel... moreAll your replies are "my kirin phone is better than every phone" without an explanation, data or source. You even mentioned Samsung had no competitors in the last 3 years ago and I just mentioned many brands. I'm not sure if you lack English speaking skills or pretending you are an adult.

                But good luck we can end our chat here.

                  Not terrible for the first try (to build the chip without reliance on US tech) but obviously not competitive in terms of both power efficiency and performance yet. I'll give Huawei a few years to see how further they could grow from here.

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                    jayDAWG, 21 Dec 2023Your lies are endless, what do you mean Samsung had no comp... moreNo hope for you my kid, you dont understand nothing... Feel sad for you.
                    Try think rly hard about my words in last topic...
                    And hey you wise boy, tell me where i can get a well optimized phone like the good old Mate serie phones especially Mate 20X and not like Sammy and all the other phones you mention.
                    Clearly you're a youngster no doubt and nothing wrong with this 😜

                      Anonymous, 21 Dec 2023Why you are deflecting so hard? There are metrics on Google... moreShow me in the US constitution that every tech company must comply with the US government? The US constitution is free for the public, so I assume you can find it for me? Or do me a favour and go to your local tech business and ask them that question and watch them laugh at you.

                      Also many people know the USA government spies just like every government around the world. The difference is in the USA if caught you will go to trial and a video will be made for the public to see. Meanwhile in China you will either disappear, get assassinated, have all your social media blocked and deleted or if your lucky get a trial but nobody will know if it was a fair trial because the video will never be shown.

                        Rly, 21 Dec 2023Funny boy. Last 3 yeat i bougt Samsung because the lack of ... moreYour lies are endless, what do you mean Samsung had no competitors? Theres iphones, Pixels, Sony and Xiaomi flagships lol

                        And what phone do I have? I'm a phone enthusiast, I buy at least 2 flagships every year and sell them the next year and repeat.

                          Anonymous, 20 Dec 2023Because the only thing inferior is the chipset. Other featu... moreLol Chinese software and Chinese chipset, you must be dreaming is on par with Samsung or Apple 😂 Huawei is years behind the competition, we can clearly see it in the results :)

                            Narazumono, 21 Dec 2023Why would i keep my tv for 15 years I'm not poor that... morewe are not talking either rich or poor.. what im stress out Sony Japan products is high quality and last for very long time. same also applied to Sony xperia mobile premium quality
                            ...samsung wont reach that level.

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                              No link to the source? (Nanoreview)
                              Also, it looks to me that the CPU is winning. The GPU is slower, but for most people it's a non-factor. What Huawei has accomplished with their own architectures is frankly amazing and it should improve quite significantly within 3-4 years.

                                Anonymous, 20 Dec 2023Amazing, isn't it? Imagine if Huawei is not saddled by... moreYep

                                  Anonymous, 20 Dec 2023What are you yappin’ about?! The Chinese and, by extension,... moreThe replies I've gotten show you how detached that 1% is from normal people. Terminally online weirdos ruin most things nowadays

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                                    jayDAWG, 21 Dec 2023Make sure you buy the galaxy S24 next so you can keep telli... moreFunny boy. Last 3 yeat i bougt Samsung because the lack of good competitors.
                                    Now and soon in 2024 there will be some nice flat display, fast charging flagship releases.

                                    And what do you have right now?
                                    And which one will be your next phone smart boy?

                                      NOK6600, 21 Dec 2023yes ..samsung tv is a trash wont survive for 5 years. thats... moreWhy would i keep my tv for 15 years
                                      I'm not poor that i'd need to keep using the same outdated device for years

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                                        jayDAWG, 21 Dec 2023Let me guess, your typing while eating a cheeseburger hopin... moreWhy you are deflecting so hard? There are metrics on Google and Apple websites showing how much data requests from the US govt they have complied with each year. And Snowden has already informed everyone about PRISM and hack on Huawei by NSA. Anyone who claims US doesn't spy on mobile phone users is spreading misinformation.