Apple sales in China decline 30%, fall expected to continue in 2024

08 January 2024
The major reason is Huawei's comeback with the Mate 60 series.

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Anonymous, 08 Jan 2024Was planning to buy a 2nd hand iPhone also, is it worth it? Depends on you and how long you are using phones. If you change your phone once per 5 years let's say, I suggest go for new iPhone.
If you change it more frequently like me, than second hand iPhone is the only way to go. They are too expensive to buy new ones each year.

Another point to take into consideration is if you used IOS before or not. Some people may not like it. I remember when I got my first iPhone (after 10 years of Android), it was an iPhone 8 I think, I throw it away after 1 month of usage, I said I will never touch an iPhone again. Later on I got an iPhone 11 and I like it more, also IOS gotten better. Then I got iPhone 11 Pro Max, iPhone 12 and it was good for me. All iPhones I bought second hand, though.
But now I am again on Android (I got bored of IOS).

    JakoDel, 08 Jan 2024exystove is absolutely hilarious I'm 100% going to use... moreShow some damn reapect!

    Those 60 yrs olds
    ?
    First your age is wrong I'm 50 and gre up with one of THE best innovations Sony gave to the world and crested a HUGE industry amongst others:

    Those 70-80yr engineers gave us:
    The Walkman: cassette ushered in portable music bar NONE! Nobody else did
    ^ evolved to CD Discman (CD quality portable music) and thr Mini-Disc and Hi-MD for CD quality and studio quality digital recording outside the studio. Egg-head iPod users completely missed this and just consumed music.

    Headphones:
    A plethora of consumer and professional studio grade Headphones. Wireless headphones and TWE with outstanding best in class noise cancellation (yes they won 2023 and 2022 best awards).

    Gaming:
    The major take that PlayStation One beat Nintendo Sega CollecoVision etc was simply based on traditional Japanese writing and cut-scenes their literature is famous for ! Not simply the games - there was over 10x the titles not available outside of Japan! Yet the system outsold everything and continues to do so yeat after year after year!

    TVs probably THE best in the industry in terms of technology and quality! Only Samsung comes close.

    Cameras :
    Long ago and up to recently partnering with Ericsson to push cameras into cellphones very early on - envisioned their businesses into the future.
    Mirrorless lenses literary changed thr industry like a pin on its head!
    Sensors business is the creme de la creme !!

    There is a LOT more!

    You kiddies only have short hand speeches and gripes yet no real understanding of the ground you walk and strut on! There are some geniuses in youth but not to thr magnitude to advance civilization onward that has occurred the last 3 generations:
    Skyscrapers, locomotive, carsdpace travel, chemistry, biology, metallurgy! Literary EVERYTHING we all know and use today.

    So stop this age hating and make something better.

      iphone us, 08 Jan 2024The real reason why iphone sells in US - artificial limitin... moreIn China though even where the pick of android brands are all available (except Google for obvious reasons) the Iphone still sells way more in the flaghship space than any other brand at the moment despite the drop in sales. Huawei was very close before the Huawei ban, but Apple's sales in China grew massively after the Huawei ban. If Huawei can sort out the chip supply problem then they will likely regain a lot of that market share from Apple though. At the moment though the Mate 60 series still can't be purchased direct from Huawei due to a massive shortage in the supply of the Kirin processor. There are still plenty of people that will choose Apple because they are invested in the ecosystem and their friends and family all use them regardless of whether or not there are better Android alternatives.

        Wooohoooo!

        How does ir tastw Apple!
        You put NO real innovation into design nor engineering into your halo product (iphone) for over a decade beyond the camera!
        You failed far too long to being USB-C and ir SHOULDVE been TB3/4 to really take advantage of USB-C port and start an industry first!
        ^ even with that your marketing of using an external drive for ProRes recording FWLL SHORT of real woeld use = I owned a 512GB iPhone 15 Pro for 14 days ans returned this afternoon trying several USB-C drives just to do this!
        - you put all your effort of launch gifts ONLy to the Chinese market forgetting your home market ans stronghold od users in the usa and look what that got you?! NADDA !!

        So take one for the team right where sun never shines!

        Terrible software, false promises, never properly fixing your services or completing what you state will occur (aka iMessage in ICloud still is a fail after 8yrs! Restoring health data from Appewatch backup ads another duplicate entry into the backup which is utterly confusing to thr end user!!)

        I couldn't believe how blind of a cheerleader I was for sooo long - comparing iOS to a dead horse and resistance to try android for over a decade with patience (3wks or less isn't trying fyi) super happy I jumped the iOS sinking ship in August 2023 and never looking back.

          Anonymous, 08 Jan 2024People used to joke about Xiaomi putting ads in all their p... moreI can't comment on global Xiaomi models but on their Chinese flagships there are lots of ads as there are on most Chinese flagships apart from Nubia and Motorola. You can switch most of them off though

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            Those who earn $10,000 or more in a year, can easily buy $1,000 phone.
            That's economics.
            Earn less than that, go buy $100 phone and stop bragging.
            Try to get a job that offer more salary per year.
            All the best.

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              Minu, 09 Jan 2024I'm not even a senior, and the reason why I love my No... moreI agree on this one.
              Even i kept an phone with same ratio screen for the same reason and it has amoled display too.

                Mobilemaster, 08 Jan 2024I wish I could have used one of those, but unfortunately I ... moreLOL, you will wish you don’t. They are atrocious. There’s a reason the Japanese themselves dropped them like hotcakes when the iPhone came out.

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                  potato4k, 08 Jan 2024Have you used those early Japanese Keitai? They are advance... moreAt least Sony Xperia, Sharp and Fujitsu (licensed by Foxconn), are doing a far better job compared to the tastes of their senior executives with their masochistic attitudes

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                    Vikass17, 08 Jan 2024Why do 60+ years old like 21:9 ratio ? They should have sta... moreI'm not even a senior, and the reason why I love my Nokia 8 is that it has a 16:9 display, and there are no replacements with the same ratio in the current ocean of generic ODM giraffes

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                      iphone us, 08 Jan 2024The real reason why iphone sells in US - artificial limitin... moreEven worse, the US doesn't get to experience the cream of the crop of all Android devices

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                        Anonymous, 08 Jan 2024Was planning to buy a 2nd hand iPhone also, is it worth it? Not at all, as in the name of that user, "you have to suffer"

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                          Cpt.Power, 08 Jan 2024Well Apple and US as Country deserve or been served with wh... moreEven worse, Apple products have the highest SAR amongst all phone brands, which is embarrassing for a trillion dollar company with $1000+ phones. Even an ancient Nokia 1011 or a Motorola Timeport wouldn't have this much of radiation

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                            This could mean faster iphone upgrades from apple, year over year.

                            Next....samsung.

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                              • 08 Jan 2024

                              Well, when you publicly announces closing down China plants and reduce order from Chinese suppliers because they are your enemy don't be surprised when they stop buying your stuff

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                                AnonD-1138975, 08 Jan 2024And why do you see this as a positive thing? Could be jus... moreYou cannot disable ads on Netflix unless you pay. But you can disable ads on any Xiaomi, Redmi or Poco phone after watching a Youtube how-to video

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                                  AnonD-1138975, 08 Jan 2024And why do you see this as a positive thing? Could be jus... morePeople used to joke about Xiaomi putting ads in all their phones when in reality their flagship models never have ads. Yeah, its shocking that the phones with higher price tags have no ads. My point is Xiaomi need income from ads to substitute for lower selling prices. Even Samsung and Apple have tried putting ads in their phones. Realme is also getting rampant with ads on their recent phones.

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                                    You sign a deal with an assembly factory on India? We close your business in China....

                                    This is THE reason Mitch McD, T#### and now Mushroom Elon has been working so hard to take your rights away. Control the legislation, control consumerism

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                                      • 08 Jan 2024

                                      interesting. good news.

                                        Well Apple and US as Country deserve or been served with what they cook.
                                        Hoping for Huawei.
                                        By the way past Iphone 12 all hpones were litterary the same just a little bit improved CPU and GPU few more mAh to battery 2 more ram and camera improved by OS update and thats it.
                                        In other words for half the price litterary every chinese competitors beats with their flagships 15 Pro max and even their top end midrangers or flagship killers beats anything made by Apple.
                                        Upcomming virtual reality by Apple ends with no difference.
                                        Even project Titan aka Apple car been beaten by Xiaomi in just less than 2 years where Apple is working on project titan for like 10+ years or so.