JerryRig burns a Galaxy S24 Ultra in a furnace to find out how much titanium was used to build it

05 February 2024
Like with the iPhone 15 Pros, titanium is only used for the shell of the phone, not the internal frame.

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John, 06 Feb 2024Nope, but Samsung is smart enough how to use titanium mater... moreSea water?? Unless you're a sailor, if sea water gets in contact with your phone then you're definitely doing something wrong

    Anonymous, 07 Feb 2024My point is that if what you said is true, why does Apple m... morePro models and non pro models are significantly different inside.

      Anonymous, 05 Feb 2024Not sure if it's sarcasm. Anyway: https://youtu.be/IS0... moreI think you should need to check you history books again. Apple was all but the first one to use titanium but ok. That's a quote of someone who likes to post useless bashing. Apple fan maybe? Funny.

        Anonymous, 07 Feb 2024My point is that if what you said is true, why does Apple m... moreIt could be anything, really - if there's no underlying structure that supports the glass panel, or if they use somehow a thinner glass panel for the Pro model, then it could simply buckle in.

        iFixit's repair guides suggest that the back glass of the non-Pro is not separable from the metal sheet behind it, whereas on the Pro the glass is floating above the said metal sheet. I don't know why Apple had to do this, but either way, that has nothing to do with the property of the titanium as metal itself.

        Grade 5 titanium is considerably harder than 7000 series aluminium and the way Apple fused the titanium side frame with the aluminium middle frame on the Pro should make it *at least* just as strong as the machined aluminium billet of the non-Pro model. The frame on the Pro didn't even flex slightly when Zach tried to bend it, suggesting that it was not due to the usage of titanium weakening the entire structure, but the section of the glass he was placing his thumb on got crushed and caved in.

        This is the exact point I've been trying to make - yes, iPhone 15 Pro definitely seems to have a flaw in its structure, but the usage of titanium wasn't a cause of it.

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          Nick Tegrataker, 06 Feb 2024I literally just explained it to you - It has something to ... moreMy point is that if what you said is true, why does Apple mount the back panel for the Grade 5 Titanium models differently than it does for non-Grade 5 Titanium models? There must be a reason behind it. I highly doubt that Apple does this for fun or at random. My assumption is that it's because of Grade 5 Titanium. If Grade 5 Titanium isn't an issue, why don't non-Grade 5 Titanium models have this issue? Do you think that Apple intentionally makes the Grade 5 Titanium models less durable?

            hurricane112, 06 Feb 2024proportionally, more mass WILL be at the center, since tita... moreTitanium is significantly denser than aluminium although it's still lighter than steel at the same volume.

              Anonymous, 06 Feb 2024Why don't non-Grade 5 Titanium Apple phones have this ... moreI literally just explained it to you - It has something to do with the way the back panel is mounted. On iPhone 15 Pro, the cracks on the back panel didn't extend from the edges across both sides of the frame (which would've been the case if these were caused by the frame getting flexed more than the glass could endure) but rather they originated from the centre on which his thumb left a prominent mark.

                hurricane112, 06 Feb 2024proportionally, more mass WILL be at the center, since tita... moreAgain, aluminum is lighter than titanium.

                  Anonymous, 06 Feb 2024You mean Titanium alloy? It's likely that the Grade 5 ... moreThe 15 pro max failed due to an empty cavity behind the wireless charging coil, so the back wasnt supported. The titanium arguments are stupid, because for current devices, the titanium is uses for cosmetics while the internals are the same as every other phone

                    keklivesmatter, 06 Feb 2024Your comment is backwards, you say using titanium on the ou... moreproportionally, more mass WILL be at the center, since titanium is lighter than aluminium

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                      Narazumono, 06 Feb 2024So Samsung tried to copy Apple but failed?Nope, but Samsung is smart enough how to use titanium material, here's why
                      - cheaper costs
                      - more contain of a 'pure and fine titanium' with no mixtured alloy aluminum and vanadium
                      - self corrosion resistance (which Samsung does said on the Unpacked while Apple keep silent about this because it's a Grade5, seawater or chemical thing will definitely kill the ip15pro/max)
                      - more pleasing feels of the texture from Grade2 titanium on your hand
                      if you talk about the frame strength because of that Grade.. then you should know that Samsung is never failed in terms of durability over a decades until present

                        justasmile, 06 Feb 2024Technically, but titanium has a better strength-to-weight b... moreYour comment is backwards, you say using titanium on the outside edges of the device will somehow shift the weight of the phone to the center of the device.. Which is the exact opposite that happens.

                          So Samsung tried to copy Apple but failed?

                            justasmile, 06 Feb 2024Well it feels lighter now.Lighter???
                            Its like if you unscrew 2 screws from a heavy tank like T28 fr example.
                            This is the same. Reducing weight by 2 grams means nothing just funny memmes.

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                              Anonymous, 06 Feb 2024Isn't that bad? I mean if the center is weak then woul... moreIt's nonsense.

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                                Nick Tegrataker, 06 Feb 2024That's more to do with the way iPhone 15 Pro's ba... moreWhy don't non-Grade 5 Titanium Apple phones have this issue then?

                                  Anonymous, 05 Feb 2024Not sure if it's sarcasm. Anyway: https://youtu.be/IS0... moreThat's more to do with the way iPhone 15 Pro's back glass panel is mounted rather than the side frame structure - Neither phone flexed significantly under pressure, but iPhone's back just got buckled at the centre where he placed his thumb.

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                                    justasmile, 06 Feb 2024Titanium will feel much lighter than aluminium and stainles... moreIsn't that bad? I mean if the center is weak then would the phone just break in the center?

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                                      justasmile, 06 Feb 2024Titanium will feel much lighter than aluminium and stainles... moreMaybe you're trying to make an unfunny joke. Anyway, stop it. It doesn't matter where the weight is. Enter a school if you haven't.

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                                        justasmile, 06 Feb 2024Titanium will feel much lighter than aluminium and stainles... moreExplain the physics behind it.

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