Apple to reinstate Epic Games' developer account after an EU order

09 March 2024
An Epic Games app store seems a bit more likely now.

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DaFink, 13 Mar 2024The DMA's scope is the overreach for me, and while ove... moreWhat complex IP grounds? Lol

Allowing alternative payment options and alternative stores??? What a joke?!

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    AnonD-641645, 11 Mar 2024Oh Apple would suffer, but so would the EU. Things today ar... moreOh I do not disagree that the EU would suffer, but it would be considerably less felt then a single entity, as most of these employees would simply take other tech jobs or perhaps change fields all together especially when it comes to the retail sector, either way it wouldn't be beneficial for both sides.

      Anonymous, 13 Mar 2024What line are you talking about? If the DMA is the line, a ... moreThe DMA's scope is the overreach for me, and while oversight on hardware such as the right to repair and universal connector standards etc. might be more palatable due to tangible impacts like E-waste, software regulation treads on complex IP grounds, and I don't think correction was required. There's already a fair amount of consumer choice in Europe, and this has long been to case. So as far as I'm concerned the market was doing just fine.

      But as I have said on more than one occasion now, I'm not asking for others to agree with me on this, and while my scepticism is personal, it's not unique.

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        DaFink, 12 Mar 2024Arrogant presumption, typical for somebody who feels the ne... moreWhat line are you talking about? If the DMA is the line, a company that violates it crosses it. You don't make any sense. It's the job of governments to govern.

          Cyberchum, 12 Mar 2024Sorry… not! I'm not here to massage or caress your ego... more‘You need to go and take a long and hard look into a gigantic mirror.’

          Ha, well you certainly don’t, I’d wager you already spend quite some time on that.



            DaFink, 12 Mar 2024Arrogant presumption, typical for somebody who feels the ne... moreSorry… not! I'm not here to massage or caress your ego. If your take is weak, it's weak regardless of any sort of emotional appeal you make.

            Go on a tangent? Seems like a line you heard recently and couldn't wait for utter, because how in the world did I go off on a tangent (that's actually the correct line)? Lol.

            You kept crying here that government shouldn't regulate, now you insinuate that you believe in oversight. What, then, is an oversight? And how exactly does the government cross the line? By bringing and implementing an act that is meant to bring fairness and curb big tech's excesses/overreaches? Well, you said that you feel, not that you think—that says a lot about the person I'm even going back and forth with. What requires thinking, you're investing feeling in. To think that you actually accused me of assumption. Tueh.

            You need to go and take a long and hard look into a gigantic mirror.

              Cyberchum, 12 Mar 2024All you had to do was come up with a superior logic of how ... moreArrogant presumption, typical for somebody who feels the need to say this about themselves ‘I say things as they are. I have little-to-no interest to sugarcoat. No walking on eggshells around me’

              Jeez dude, Get over yourself!

              I never once said I don’t believe in a need for some oversight, I said I feel a line has been crossed. Then you proceeded to go on a tangent and assume the rest of my argument.


                DaFink, 12 Mar 2024And your own argument pretty much just agree or be called d... moreAll you had to do was come up with a superior logic of how this regulation is bad, but you didn't. All you had to do was invalidate my stance, but you couldn't do that. From the look of things, you either have an issue with the EU lawmakers or have a soft spot for Apple. Okay. But neither would alter, in any way, the validity or importance of the regulation itself.

                You seem to have no idea of the need for some sort of regulation and oversight in capitalism. You don't know what the industry would be for consumers without regulations. You thing manufacturers care for much aside their botromline? I mean, I had to cite the "right to repair" act drama in the U.S in hope that it'd get you to think but it flew over your head.

                About the deleted comment; I didn't know, but you did. I can't even say which one, but you likely can. And that says a lot. Well, at least, you read it before it got deleted for whatever reason. I say things as they are. I have little-to-no interest to sugarcoat. No walking on eggshells around me.

                  Anonymous, 12 Mar 2024again? lmao, they never could have been called fair or moralLots of apple fanboys do. They talk about apples environmental policies as if that makes up for their bad competition policies

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                    Ouifuf, 09 Mar 2024Never want anyone to say apple are a moral or fair company ... moreagain? lmao, they never could have been called fair or moral

                      Cyberchum, 12 Mar 2024What were you going on about? I was simply using your very ... moreAnd your own argument pretty much just agree or be called dumb. I’m not engaging with that, and you’ve already had one of your replies removed for over stepping, so settle down a bit yeah….

                      I do not agree with this level of governmental intervention, and I’m not the only one it seems. I can’t make any clearer than that, and again I’m not asking you to agree.

                        AJ, 10 Mar 2024EU is a bureaucratic nightmare. No wonder the youth unemplo... moreHow about we focus on the topic of the matter?

                          Reality..., 10 Mar 2024Not a fan of Apple by any means but on this issue I'm ... moreLet me get this straight: Are you against the lawmakers, the law itself, OR both?

                            DaFink, 10 Mar 2024Yeah we are going round in circles here aren’t we, we are n... moreWhat were you going on about? I was simply using your very own logic against you. If you think it's silly, then go grab a mirror.

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                              AnonD-641645, 11 Mar 2024My post linking to Apple's job creation data in Europe... moreMarch 9, sorry

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                                AnonD-641645, 11 Mar 2024My post linking to Apple's job creation data in Europe... moreApple won't stop selling its products in the EU because it hungers for money, period.

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                                  My post linking to Apple's job creation data in Europe disappeared, you can do a search.

                                  Status quo doesn't change easily, it is true that Apple pulling out of the EU is unthinkable. But is it any more unthinkable than the Feb 9 story on the Daily Telegraph by William Hazell? (look for it if you haven't heard). Maybe we're living in a time when the unthinkable suddenly becomes a distinct possibility

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                                    AnonD-641645, 10 Mar 2024It's more like thinking out loud, I don't have an... moreWell, with only 22% market share for Apple in Europe (excluding Russia), it wouldn't be such a big deal like in the US.
                                    Android is ready to take over the rest here. Most people are not that techie than in Asia e.g.
                                    They buy what's being sold in the stores.
                                    Others could still import an iPhone from the US. I'm pretty sure Apple would lower the restriction of importing for that.
                                    The good thing is that, despite what some might be thinking, companies do have other goals. If it comes to making a profit, they really don't care about fanwars or "slapping" a pretty valuable market.
                                    "The EU is the largest economy in the world. Although growth is projected to be slow, the EU remains the largest economy in the world with a GDP per head of €25,000 for its 440 million consumers." - policy.trade.ec.europa.eu/eu-trade-relationships-country-and-region/eu-position-world-trade_en

                                    Apple will be doing what the have been told after going through the legal courts and continue making money. Simple and good for everyone.

                                      AnonD-641645, 11 Mar 2024Oh Apple would suffer, but so would the EU. Things today ar... moreno worries, with apple in your resume you will find work in or outside EU pretty fast, it is not like apple is only hightek IT behemoth in the world

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                                        AnonD-641645, 11 Mar 2024Oh Apple would suffer, but so would the EU. Things today ar... moreStop lying.
                                        Apple has only 161,000 employees in total. It doesn't employ millions of people in EU.
                                        That's just a ridiculous lie from you.

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