iPhone 17 Pro to be the first with a chipset built on TSMC's 2nm process
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The gate pitch of "2 nm" is 45 nm, by the way. As for the names after 1 nm, it could be 1 nm+, 1 nm Ultra, 1 nm Super Ultra, 1 nm Super Super Ultra, etc.
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024Quantum chips won't exist in a smartphone anytime soon... moreIf Quantum Chips will not exist ever on Mobiles, that just means human technology has stagnated or civilization destroyed. Quantum Chipsets are the next step after we exhaust all architectures and Gate Length reaches 7nm. Quantum Tunneling Effect starts at 7nm below Gate Length
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024Quantum chips won't exist in a smartphone anytime soon... morePhones already have a hard time cooling one single chip when it's going full throttle. Adding another one isn't such a good idea imo. But hey, that's the manufacturers' problem
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024So then 3nm doesn't mean anything?3 nm means it's smaller than 4 nm. It doesn't mean that it's really 3 nm. It's just a name. You can look it up. It can be named 999 xm or 456 zz or 3 u or whatever. 3 nm is just easier to understand than, for example, 7.5 super ultra 1 VI.
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024You realise '3nm' is just a marketing term alread... moreSo then 3nm doesn't mean anything?
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024Only thing it cant catch is the S24 lagging.You dream dude. Watch speed test first.
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024Only thing it cant catch is the S24 lagging.Hardware don't lag is the software 4gb Android phones runs well on clean Android AOSP
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Time to fasten the seatbelts 2nm hw will surprise everybody, ARM laptop is the next big thing
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024Lol! iPhone 15 Pro Max couldn't even catch up with the... moreOnly thing it cant catch is the S24 lagging.
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How is TSMC getting around quantum tunneling? I thought that was supposed to be a big problem
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Anonymous, 10 Apr 2024We'll either shift to picometers (pm), or marketing wi... moreYou realise '3nm' is just a marketing term already right?
The gate pitch of the '3nm' process is 48nm.
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Digdigfig, 11 Apr 2024They will keep going until they hit the physical limit of h... moreQuantum chips won't exist in a smartphone anytime soon or maybe ever although who knows what the future will bring. As we get ever smaller the gains will be tougher. Potentially having more than one chipset might be a temporary answer.
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Tk89, 11 Apr 2024If energy efficiency increases as the nm decreases, why is ... moreLol so 3 is the same as 4, 4 is the same as 7, 7 is the same as 14, 14 is the same as .....
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YUKI93, 11 Apr 2024It's why Qualcomm decided to stick with 4nm fabricatio... moreNo. The 3nm of tsmc back then had lower % of usable chips than qualcomm can accept.
Tsmc pays for the unusable A17 pro, but does not pay for unusable snapdragon/mediatek.
Low % is why qualcomm did not want samsung semicon to make 8g2 and 8g3.
And people here think that was about heat caused by inferior fab. When it was not.
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Tk89, 11 Apr 2024If energy efficiency increases as the nm decreases, why is ... moreBecause A17 Pro was expected to be much stronger than A16, but this was not the scenario. To make people ppl believe it was , Apple had to use higher clock than they planned to make benchmarks way better than A16's. This has led to higher power used.
Heat issues had nothing to do with iOS.
15 and 15+ were not affected, coincidence both using A16.
Tipsters said that on X and weibo back then.
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Tk89, 11 Apr 2024If energy efficiency increases as the nm decreases, why is ... moreEnergy efficiency will increase if it's the same chip. For example, a 2 nm B1 chip will be more efficient than a 3 nm B1 chip. A 2 nm B2 chip may consume more power than a 3 nm B1 chip.
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Anonymous, 11 Apr 2024T has to change to US to reflect the truth. T is a contract... moreLOL. If TSMC cannot operate, the whole technology world will be in trouble.
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Tk89, 11 Apr 2024If energy efficiency increases as the nm decreases, why is ... moreIt's just an umbrella term for increasing number of transistors in the same space. After some time there is no real benefit of increased density. A breakthrough is needed for that. I believe chips since 7nm haven't changed much.
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Burikat , 10 Apr 2024Can someone explain to me what comes next after a chipset w... moreVertical stackijg transistors basically. Who knows when they'll stop tho because the names mean nothing are none of the dimensions of the transistors are remotely close to as snall as their names. Tsmc "3nm" for example has a smallest transistor dimension of about 28nm lmao but the fact also is we can't get to actual 1nm transistors with our current method anyway
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Apple's so over reliant on node shrinks that they're falling rapidly behind as the shrinks become exponentially less significant. The A15-A17 has been pathetic while snapdragon went from being way behind to making massive gains each gen to the point where last year's snapdragon has both a slightly stronger gpu that also uses massively less power than the A17 "pro". What a joke.