Sony Xperia 1 VI price leaks
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- 29 Apr 2024
WhoCaresTM, 28 Apr 2024If I'm going to use manual mode then I'm going to... moreWhat the heck does that even mean the 1v literally used the newest stacked sensor at the time on its main camera Xiaomi,vivo and apple tue have a better auto mode but Samsung? Really the over sharped over saturated ones ?
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- 28 Apr 2024
Bravosixgoingdark, 28 Apr 2024The auto mode is not that good but the manual modes aren�... moreIf I'm going to use manual mode then I'm going to use a real camera.
To make the best sensor available and lose out to Samsung, Apple, Vivo, Xiaomi and other, of which most use those same sensors, is just pathetic.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 28 Apr 2024They keep Xperia solely for communication R&D purposes ... moreWhat kind of lame excuse is that?!
They literally have the best sensors and some of the best display tech available. Coupled with the headphone jack still being available they could easily make a good camera phone and just make so much money. But...just like Nintendo...they have some really morbidly stupid business decisions.
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- 28 Apr 2024
WhoCaresTM, 28 Apr 2024You can try to reason with yourself all you want, but numer... moreThe auto mode is not that good but the manual modes aren't as hard or time consuming to use as people say they are and those give comparable or some cases better photos than other flagships. Regardless they got to improve the auto and basic modes though
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- 28 Apr 2024
WhoCaresTM, 28 Apr 2024Couldn't have said it better myself. Sony should be i... moreThey keep Xperia solely for communication R&D purposes so they could be ready for the future. Product design, photography and others stuff is something that Sony already has covered.
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- 28 Apr 2024
IMX363, 28 Apr 2024Why is Sony still making phones? And how are there people s... moreI'll answer that on behalf of people who're buying.
Sony's camera situation, I know its weird, but the end result is not that bad. Considering most people shoot during daytime, a 1-2% drop in the end result is hardly noticeable.
Software updates are not important for all people, its just a security thing mostly now. Hell, I was keeping Android 4.4 as late as 2020, on my Redmi 2 Prime. Yes it worked fast enough, if you're wondering.
But what matters is, you get convenience to music playing via 3.5mm jack, you get microSD convenience.
But most of all, you get refinement where it matters. You get a sort of quality and versatility. A high level of audio quality, its rare nowadays. You can use its 4K120 clips in a way many phones can't manage, including (& specially) the chinese phones. You get multiple apps too for camera itself, all using the same camera in different ways.
A content creator will get a Sony, not a chinese phone managing 4K30/ 8K24 at best, that too with encoding artifacts and lesser details in video (despite the Chinese using superior hardware on paper, yes its the truth).
I have a LG G8x, and despite its far outdated specs, I create some really nice content on it for clients.. because a DSLR can't do everything. Whatever little it does (4K60 and 1080p240 with stereo sounds), it does great. G8x also excels in the world of mobile music quality.
As LG has closed shop, my next phone will be a Sony, if they launch in my country, that is. I hope I've clarified my viewpoint.
But you're absolutely right:- they need an overhaul on the business and marketing side. Definitely.
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- 28 Apr 2024
IMX363, 28 Apr 2024Why is Sony still making phones? And how are there people s... moreCouldn't have said it better myself.
Sony should be industry leaders, and yet for some reason they make horrible business decisions.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 27 Apr 2024All current flagships have 20:9 aspect ratio except Apple a... moreYeah, except Apple and Samsung...exactly.
Also, even if other phones are 20:9, at least they aren't 21:9.
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- 28 Apr 2024
LucasN82, 27 Apr 2024"camera software is garbage" If you watch Marcus... moreYou can try to reason with yourself all you want, but numerous YouTube comparisons show otherwise. There's a reason no one uses Sony phones in camera comparisons. The auto mode is horrible.
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- 28 Apr 2024
K, 28 Apr 2024In price of Sony 5 V i can buy Pixel 8 Pro...why Sony :>... moreP8Pro and 5V are different devices. One is behemoth of a heavy phone, and the other one is light compact.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Why is Sony still making phones? And how are there people still defending Sony's smartphones?
Sony have the best camera sensors, yet their phones never use top of the line sensors. Their phones should be using the most cutting edge, almost prototype hardware that no one else has access to. They should be a flagship for their sensors, yet Chinese phones use their best sensors.
Sony's phones still receive 2 years of updates. That is abysmal.
Their phone smartphone division needs a big shake up. Replace everyone. Year after year, they have produced sub par products.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Great hardware, shite software....
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- 28 Apr 2024
In price of Sony 5 V i can buy Pixel 8 Pro...why Sony :> Pixel 8 Pro 512GB is 1100£ so is there any reason to buy Xperia ? Pixel 8 is around 400 punds and it mostly the same. Even in Japan Sony lose against Pixel's.
Samsung, Google have interesting programs for customers, repurchase of devices, etc. They have devices like watches, they develop software. Sony disappears from the market. The Pro Photo app is an artificial separation of features and doesn't do much for 99% of customers. The automatic mode in Sony phones is very weak, at the level of phones priced at €300-400.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Bravosixgoingdark, 28 Apr 20241.First to introduce 960fps FHD slow motion
2.First to giv... moreSony the best hardware design ever when the phone get into our hand.
Only true sony fan can tell the different than other brand .
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- 28 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 27 Apr 2024You do not understand ...
1) 1vi is not going to be 15... moreI'm not hating on Sony's processing, I'm hating on Sony's hardware for the price.
1.) Why do you think they put these offers? They themselves know the MSRP is too much then, just like Samsung.
2.) Oh yeah man Chinese components are cheaper of course, the Chinese use Sony sensors, that's so cheap!
3.) Almost same performance? What are you comparing against? The Vivo at 1000 ISO vs the Sony at 100 ISO? Literally physics cannot be defied. Bigger sensor allows better bokeh and better noise due to its size, and that's a fact. Stop falling for random marketing BS like Exmor T and stuff, it allows better processing and we all know Sony likes minimalist processing. Also, is a massive bump bad if there's actually good hardware?? If you're so concerned about the bump, why not go for the Xperia 5 VI instead and leave the big bump for the top tier flagship which you can't handle?
4.) Exactly, it's more expensive and something a flagship should do. Even Samsung is doing it now so Sony has no excuses.
5.) Yeah, so giving more performance is bad because something else is better? Okay what's your point???? Literally nothing is proven except for the fact that the Sony is worse than not only the Xiaomi 14 Ultra but also the Cybershot and remember, the 14 Ultra has variable aperture, a tech that the Sony does not. Xiaomi's software can make up for the "lossless" zoom but their variable aperture tech can only be mirrored by the usage of the UW cam of the Sony.
6.) Slow readout leads to what exactly? Like seriously, unless you can provide proper comparisons that make sense these specs make no sense.
"Sony has 1/2.6" superwide.
Xiaomi has 1/2.5" superwide.
Why samples from xiaomi are worse?"
Sony is 16 mm and Xiaomi is 12 mm, so much more information is packed by the sensor, Sony is wide only and Xiaomi is ULTRAwide, as it should be. If the Xiaomi is even comparable to the Sony then they've done a phenomenal job.
"Funny how chinese fanboys complain hete when review done by this site likes very much what was done.
It is not xperia cam review where you can read them complain about how software ruined the turf, how walls look like wax, how colors are too saturated."
I admit, I am a "Chinese fanboy" now, but I won't defend them blindly. I'll admit when they get it wrong and there's plenty of stuff they get wrong and I'll list them in a follow up comment. But I never complained about Sony's processing, I just complained about their hardware.
"In case you have not read"
I have read, and what's your point? I should dictate what I think based on what GSMarena says in their review or base my opinion what their samples and the samples provided by other people show and the quality of the images? I do not let someone simply tell me what to think I have a brain up there and can think myself.
"Still, Sony's mature image processing deserves huge praise"
Exactly what sony camera would do. But if you think iphone/galaxy/pixel do correct photography , nothing I can do."
I agree, but Xiaomi has Leica Authentic which tones down sharpening, has accurate colors AND has less highlight/shadow control which leads to a more filmic, SDR-like photo, like Sony phones. So with just a toggle you go from overly saturated colors that someone might like to awesome filmic photographs. What's wrong with that now? And besides have you tried RAW photography? Seriously, it's so much fun and better hardware is necessary at that point and since Sony's processing is so light, you just need 3 seconds per photo to replicate their photo processing.
Also I never mentioned Apple, Google or Samsung. You're making up random things just to make me look like a dumb fanboy which I am not. I hold everyone and everything accountable for things they do right and things they do wrong. And the fact is that Sony's hardware is only equivalent to Oneplus 12.
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- 28 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 27 Apr 2024Go see his video about oneplus12 x oneplus open.
You can ... moreI never brought up Samsung, only Vivo and Xiaomi who have great processing for the most part and apart from Vivo's oversharpening, I have nothing to complain about from them. Why are you bringing Samsung and their ISOCELL sensors? Clearly those are inferior unless they have a size advantage like the GN2 had compared to the HP2 (1/1.12 vs 1/1.3) and the other "big" Sony sensors which were far smaller and thus couldn't properly compete.
Is it truly wrong to ask for a bigger sensor from Sony, made by Sony themselves? What are you even complaining about I do not know
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- 28 Apr 2024
LucasN82, 27 Apr 2024"even by your metrics, 20% is 20%, for lower prices ot... moreok the Xiaomi 14 Ultra can do that too iirc, so what? And besides, what if I don't care about slow motion, let alone slow motion in low light? What then?
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- 28 Apr 2024
NOK6600, 27 Apr 2024Conslusion = After 20 years ,SONY still relevant in mobile... more1.First to introduce 960fps FHD slow motion
2.First to give predictive capture
3.Gave some of the best designed and long lasting phones in history
4.only one to give 2 stage hardware cam key
5.one of the best album apps ever made (they dropped it in 2019)
6.first to offer 4k screens with world record for highest res screen on a phone (z5 premium)
7.first to give variable zoom
8.battery care feature
Their by no means perfect but I still buy them, as sony is the only one still giving hardware features that others don't. if the other android makers want to copy apple then why bother to buy them when you could just an iphone?
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- 28 Apr 2024
Anonymous, 27 Apr 2024LOL. A 2023 phone gets a software update this year. That�... moreBut you just said "Only if you don’t care about OS and security updates and software features.", and your sentence is like saying that Sony doesn't care about software updates, while they do actually care, even though not as much as Fartsung.
And I hope Sony can keep it simple and not adding some useless AI features like other company does.