Apple releases iOS 17.5.1 to fix bug that resurfaced deleted photos
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- Carol
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- 25 May 2024
Anonymous, 25 May 2024Man you have more patience than what I do, to spoonfeed suc... moreYeah, well, that happens because most of the so called "tech" sites are merly amateurs with little to no knowlege about hardware and the basics of it's "motors". In this situation apple might as well, never delete the files, and the whole delete proccess does not even mark the files as deleted but just move them to some container, pretty much like how facebook does when you "delete" account. But who knows😵💫, there are so many possibilities... there should be though a statemenet about WHY it happened.
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- Anonymous
- 0%R
- 25 May 2024
Deleted photos should never ever return. If that doesn't warn people that Apple is not as safe as always told, I don't know what will.
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- Anonymous
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- 25 May 2024
Carol, 25 May 2024This has nothing to do with the Drive being mechanical or s... moreMan you have more patience than what I do, to spoonfeed such "genius bar" geniuses on what they cannot just simply google and read for a few minutes, before running their (keys) mouths off.
We Really need to know about the HOW did these deleted files resurface in any recoverable manner YEARS after deletion. And the second is WHY did this happen now at this point in time. I cannot even wrap my head around how huge this debacle is just on the logistics factor of storing/recovering any magnitude of deleted data after such a massively long time period. And most tech sites don't seem to give a rat's backside about this other than the initial footnote on "something happened, bugfix is deployed, move on now". WTH!
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- Jagganatha
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- 25 May 2024
Personally I have no objection as I have nothing on my phone that needs to be private or protected at all. I do not use social media. The phone I use for my panoramas NEVER gets a sim card put in it anyway, and I do not even use it on my home wi-fi, as of course these days even neighbours kids can hack your wi-fi and grab your priceless masterpieces for themselves!
Everybody these days seems to have forgotten that everything you do on your phone with som card/esim card calling capabilities IS saved on servers globally- they claim it to prevent terrorism & crime, so even if you lose your phone your ISP must be able to retrieve your entire phone's activities for the feds, the police, the courts etc, and I do not believe that this has changed. We creatives therefore have an interest in using one phone for our work, and another for our texts, chat, internet use and phone calls etc.
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- Carol
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- 25 May 2024
Anonymous, 23 May 2024this is absolute bullcrap. this was true only for old hdd t... moreThis has nothing to do with the Drive being mechanical or solid state, it has though everything to do with the way a system works and uses the space. I do not know what Hypervisor crapple uses but all systems work more or less in the same way. As example, The software indexes information about the files on the disk in tables with pointers to the location of those files, thus saving the disk from premature damaging, but also speeding up finding the files on the disk. Without these indexes, if the system had to search for each individual file every time it was needed, the system would be so slow as to be impossible to use. Why do I talk about premature damage of a disk? Well first let's talk about what files are: in a very short sentance, they are nothing but hexadecimal code written on a drive that convert from (the binary) 0's and 1's. At this point can get way to complicated, so we go back to our question, and answer would be: because deleting a file on a system will normally just delete the file pointer (rewrite the code with 0s), but not really the file, saving new files will eventually overwrite it (the file code). If the system would securely delete files (overwriting the codes with 0's) everytime a file is marked as deleted, it would simply wear out the disk at much faster rates while being slower to delete overall. The whole in short: the system just deletes the indexes from the reference tables, but the files actually remain on the disk untouched, well until a certain point when the space they are on will be overwritten by other files. This is why is possible to can recover files from disk even when deleted. Imagine a library with thousands of shelves and millions of books. The location of each book is written into a database system. If you delete the indexing about a book's location, the book is still on the shelf, but for the system it no longer exist. To look for the book without an index pointing it's location might take ages, but it is still doable.
Anyhow, in apple situation, it is a bit worrysome. Is this a bug? and if it is, as they claim, what kind of bug would rescan the whole storage and retrive deleted files? Or was this actually a code they use to retrive users files from server, that got loose in the wild? Am pretty sure there are many more questions to be asked, but what is clear is that apple does not take care of users data, and well they should never be trusted, not at this level, not never.
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- Anonymous
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- 24 May 2024
Anonymous, 23 May 2024this is absolute bullcrap. this was true only for old hdd t... moreSo HOW did the data deleted from years ago magically show up years again? Speculation is not going to do any good with a breach of this magnitude, imagine if you took sensitive photos/screenshots (of your login credentials, bank info, health conditions, ugly junk, etc.) for your own reasons and deleted it when it served its purpose and sold your phone to someone else. If the photos resurfaced for whatever reason, your privacy has now been eviscerated by one of the "secure loool" devices in the world. And the consequences of Apple's failure is borne by the customer, who might not even know that they have been Pwned by Apple's security blooper.
Or is the breach localized to Apple IDs and not the devices themselves? That opens another completely different can of worms, so would that mean Apple is possibly storing Peta upon Petabytes of deleted user data for their own nefarious purposes on their servers for who knows what and for how long? What exactly is going on?
What is the company's statement on this? Just some mellowed mumble mumble BS until they quietly squeak that the issue is now fixed (we promise, pinky promise even). We as customers, and whoever the shareholders are, are well in their rights to know more about this massive failure by this pompous company.
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- Anonymous
- wdF
- 24 May 2024
can anyone confirm if a file resurfaced from a previous device
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- Lister
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- 24 May 2024
WAKEUP, 23 May 2024IPhone or Apple is not a safe phone. They are harvesting al... moreHaha, best joke I’ve seen in ages
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- Shawn Dilaru
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- 24 May 2024
iOS 17.5.1 - Over heating and highly battery draining
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- Pineapple
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- 24 May 2024
Anonymous, 23 May 2024this is absolute bullcrap. this was true only for old hdd t... moreNo it's not, even with NAND storage, if you are fast enough for the data not to be overwritten, you can recover them like an HDD. I don't think any company offers secure erase (at least by default), because it will wear out the NAND storage much faster.
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2024
paws28, 23 May 2024I'm thought this is a special feature to go together w... more🤣
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- WAKEUP
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- 23 May 2024
IPhone or Apple is not a safe phone. They are harvesting all your information and not really deleted. Switch to Android without cloud support.
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- paws28
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- 23 May 2024
I'm thought this is a special feature to go together with their don't let me go ads ~
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2024
A friend of mine just told me that his phone with the 17.5 update, installed on it's own a few apps he uninstalled long ago or ones that he never used before.
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- .alpha
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- 23 May 2024
Just covering up Apple have been harvesting data for NSA
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2024
Anonymous, 22 May 2024"a detailed explanation by Apple would've been ap... morethis is absolute bullcrap. this was true only for old hdd type storages. current nand type storages like ssd or those in phones should delete files immediately unless it's prevented intentionally by os manufacturer
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- Anonymous
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- 23 May 2024
This is an extremely serious privacy and security lapse on Apple's part. The technicalities do not really matter behind "how" it happened, but the fact that photos that were deleted YEARS AGO have again resurfaced speaks of some serious flaws in the "high security iOS" experience that Apple keeps advertising about. This has a profound impact in situations where families use a shared device and something unpleasant gets "undeleted" and has the potential to cause unnecessary misunderstandings. This reminds of the notorious iCloud leak that happened some years ago where some private pictures of very famous individuals were leaked out to the public. Who knows what Apple has access to internally? After all, everything is CLOSED SOURCE code in iOS.
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- Anonymous
- wHR
- 23 May 2024
ikek, 23 May 2024I gotta remind people that "iCloud" storage is ju... moresoo, are we gonna blame apple for that or what ?
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- Anonymous
- sRc
- 23 May 2024
Who is Apple trying to fool with this data corruption nonsense? Clearly to them "delete" has a different definition.
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- Anonymous
- 09H
- 23 May 2024
Enjoy your perfect ios.