Apple Passwords app rumored to launch at WWDC

07 June 2024
Apple is preparing a password-managing app that works on iOS, iPadOS, macOS, visionOS and Windows devices.

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Android-Never-Again, 10 Jun 2024Also, "Require Attention for Face ID" is a settin... moreTrue, I forgot to mention that 👍

    DaFink, 08 Jun 2024Said robber would have to take your phone, point it at you ... moreAlso, "Require Attention for Face ID" is a setting on iOS. Enable that.

      Anonymous, 08 Jun 2024You hold Power + Volume Up/Down to disable Face ID before y... moreHey, thanks for that! It used to be pressing the power button four or five times in quick succession.

      Didn't realise it was now the power button+volume up/down until you see the power-down GUI

        Anonymous, 08 Jun 2024I already addressed this point. You might not see my commen... moreYes, it’s annoying when that happens. My original reply to this hasn’t been published at all it seems. Not because I was rude to you in any way, rather I don’t think the moderators like me describing some of the methods an assailant may prompt their victim to hand over a password. I was trying to make the point that in such circumstances, how much of a choice a person has is highly debatable.

        In any case I do get your point, and yes digital security has always been a convenience vs effectiveness equation. But both of the scenario’s you have suggest are not really how the majority of data theft takes place. I would still say that for the average consumer passkeys and biometrics are within the acceptable margin of that equation.

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          Anonymous, 08 Jun 2024You hold Power + Volume Up/Down to disable Face ID before y... moreOr simply use a PIN. PINs are much more secure than biometrics. As expected, biometrics are more convenient. That's how it is about security. Anyway, if you use a password manager, you don't have to save passwords for all websites you use that require passwords. Best practices for phones are to use a master password and only save passwords for non-financial websites.

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            lo, 08 Jun 2024doesn't matter how you twist and turn, passkeys signif... morePasskeys are more convenient and less secure than passwords. I already explained it. Don't believe everything companies tell you. Generally, companies that support features or products will try to sell them as best they can. There are exceptions, but it requires honesty. When you consider to buy a product from a store, how often does the salesperson tell you not to buy it because it's not a good product without trying to upsell you?

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              DaFink, 08 Jun 2024Said robber would have to take your phone, point it at you ... moreI already addressed this point. You might not see my comment because it wasn't published immediately. Anyway, the main point is that with the password, the victim can make the decision. With the passkey that use biometrics, the victim has no choice.

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                • 08 Jun 2024

                doesn't matter how you twist and turn, passkeys significantly safer than. the password

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                  DaFink, 08 Jun 2024Said robber would have to take your phone, point it at you ... moreUmm. Makes sense.

                    Anonymous, 08 Jun 2024If a robber takes your phone from you and points it at your... moreSaid robber would have to take your phone, point it at you to unlock it. They will then have to scroll through the UI to find your particular banking app, and then point the phone at you again in order to unlock that.

                    What may I ask is said robber doing to make you be so co-operative all this time? Because if it is threat of violence then that same will also be effective at coercing your password out of you, surely 🤷

                    Passkeys were not intended to defend against this kind of scenario, little is.

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                      • 08 Jun 2024

                      Samsung Pass wannabe.

                        Bitwarden FTW!

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                          Anonymous, 08 Jun 2024Let's say you share a room with your friend, he or she... moreYou hold Power + Volume Up/Down to disable Face ID before you go to sleep. On Android, there's Lockdown in the power menu, and on Samsung, you can disable biometric unlock with Modes and Routines. Even without these measures, passkeys are still as secure as passwords in a password manager.

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                            ko, 07 Jun 2024Nope, secure banks only allows two keys and can be removed ... moreIf a robber takes your phone from you and points it at your face to unlock it and gain access to your banking account that uses a passkey, how and when do you remove the passkey?

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                              no, 07 Jun 2024passkey is much more secure just the fact that you don'... moreLet's say you share a room with your friend, he or she may access your banking account while you're asleep by using your fingerprint, transfer all your money to his or her account, and then leave and stop being your friend. How is this more secure than using a password?

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                                DaFink, 07 Jun 2024Any robber who takes your phone and still has the time and ... moreCoercing for a password is much more difficult that pointing a device at the victim's face, which can done very quickly. With the password, at least the victim can make a decision based on the circumstances. Yes, passkeys will be useless and insecure in this scenario. The thing is, it's wrongly communicated that they're more secure than passwords.

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                                  DaFink, 07 Jun 2024Any robber who takes your phone and still has the time and ... moreNope, secure banks only allows two keys and can be removed anytime, you can also delay transfers

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                                    Anonymous, 07 Jun 2024Passkeys aren't more secure than passwords. They are j... morepasskey is much more secure just the fact that you don't have a password makes it much more secure you have to use your key that only you have and it only works on that specific site

                                      Anonymous, 07 Jun 2024Passkeys aren't more secure than passwords. They are j... moreAny robber who takes your phone and still has the time and means to make you stand there whilst they point it right into your face will likely also have the means to coerce a password out of you, in what would ultimately be a very unpleasant experience.

                                      Passkeys are not intended to defend against that kind of scenario, they are meant to improve security around credential based attacks / phishing etc.

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                                        nic, 07 Jun 2024the point of passkeys is to make it more secure and elimina... morePasskeys aren't more secure than passwords. They are just more convenient. Actually, they are less secure. For example, if you use a passkey to access your banking account by using a face scan, a robber can take your phone and simply point it to your face to access your banking account. On the other hand, if you use a password, a robber won't be able to access your banking account if he doesn't know the password. Companies that support passkeys won't say that passkeys are less secure than passwords because if they say that many people won't use them.

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