Samsung unveils ISOCELL sensor trio: 200MP HP9, 50MP GNJ and 50MP JN5

27 June 2024
The HP9 is a dedicated telephoto sensor, the company says.

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Anonymous, 27 Jun 2024a big sensor for ultrawide with bright aperturethat's too big for a UW cam, ZTE need to use that for their main cam first lol, I think 1/1.5" is a disgrace if the UW cam is so big, what's the point? It's like the Find X5 Pro all over again, 1/1.3" is the new standard and it sucks that only Xiaomi and Honor reached 1/1.12" and no one has touched it again since, excluding the one inchers, and Honor's gone back to 1/1.3" again for the Magic6, just weird.

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    I don't think any phone from other brands could produce sharp, noise free images in low light conditions like the vivo x100u even with the same hp9. The secret sauce is in vivo's image chip

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      • 27 Jun 2024

      jiyen235, 27 Jun 2024what?a big sensor for ultrawide with bright aperture

        Anonymous, 27 Jun 202414 mm focal length ov50k40 f/2.0what?

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          jiyen235, 27 Jun 2024Honestly? I don't really care about that. For one simp... more14 mm focal length ov50k40 f/2.0

            Anonymous, 27 Jun 2024I think ov50e was biggest sensor used in a ultrawide(Z60 Ultra).Honestly? I don't really care about that. For one simple reason, it just isn't that wide, granted the main cam in that phone is more zoomed in but still, 18 mm is way too "normal" compared to 15 or even 16 mm. Besides, the size is mostly similar to the Find X6 Pro, which itself was similar/had the same size as the Find X5 Pro and the X3 Pro. What is the most interesting about the ZTE is the aperture, it's super bright for an ultrawide, add the huge size and you get a super bright aperture AND a huge size leading to far superior nighttime shots

            But still, the best bet imo would've been to get a great 2x crop sensor like the OV64B and then take a 12-14 mm UW cam and then have a 2x "lossless crop". That way you get access to a good quality normal focal length of 24-28 mm, a super wide UW cam and a zoomed in main cam that provides a cool looking perspective.

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              • 27 Jun 2024

              With all these camera upgrades, let's see if there will be any difference in low light/fog.
              That's where a really good sensor shows its upper hand.

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                • 27 Jun 2024

                Mobilemaster, 27 Jun 2024I wonder, when they will announce the new 320 MP camera sen... moreXiaomi 15T Pro perhaps?

                  I wonder, when they will announce the new 320 MP camera sensor, and which company will use it first.

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                    James Nana, 27 Jun 2024Yet they would never use these on their flagship smartphones Yes and generally people use Sony over Samsung. Samsung is generally used for cost cutting.

                      YourLocalPhoneCritic, 27 Jun 2024What makes Samsung better than Apple is how they do their o... moreSamsung is a conglomerate with super tight ties with the S.Korean government, to the point that S.Korea is pretty much ruled by Samsung. Their reach and resources are way beyond anyone's imaginations, nor Apple's.

                      OTOH, manufacturing things yourself do carry a ton of fixed cost. This is also why Apple can be a trillion dollar company. They do what US companies do best, outsource everything. One can argue which model is better in the long run though.

                        Sensors for Chinese manufacturers and maybe Apple... why are they going to continue with the same retouched sensors of the s22u and only announce x% more light and blah blah blah and ask for 1,500 dollars

                          Not so big upgrade compared to existed sensors. It will produce more or less same picture and video quality. Plus, results depends of the procesor ISP, and we see how stingy companies are to provide better soc.

                            Bosic012, 27 Jun 2024So when is the X100 Ultra review coming out?Hint: It took GSMArena 7 weeks to publish the review for Find X7 Ultra after they had first received it.

                              What makes Samsung better than Apple is how they do their own semiconductors, chips, camera sensors, modems & displays. (They're secretly working on their own Tizen OS)

                              Apple on the other hand has to rely on TSMC, Sony & Qualcomm/intel for modems, Samsung/LG/BOE for panels.

                              Samsung is true powerhouse. I just wish they were more creative with their design decisions. Their home appliances are so traditional, they're not creative. Whereas Apple & Xiaomi would've designed their home appliances non-traditionally.

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                                • 27 Jun 2024

                                I just looked at the specification https://semiconductor.samsung.com/image-sensor/mobile-image-sensor/isocell-hp9/ and the HP9 has Quad Pixel autofocus ("Super QPD"). That's surprising because this sensor is specifically for tele cameras, but Quad Pixel autofocus could lead to less sharp images due to having one microlens above four subpixels. Though, I have already seen good high resolution results from Quad Bayer sensors with Quad Pixel autofocus, so apparently, they seem to have found a solution surprisingly. Nonetheless, it's not clear how large the difference is, but apparently it's very small.

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                                  jiyen235, 27 Jun 2024Isn't the HP9 in the X100 Ultra ? What are they unveil... moreI think ov50e was biggest sensor used in a ultrawide(Z60 Ultra).

                                    Isn't the HP9 in the X100 Ultra ? What are they unveiling it now for? Or is this an updated one?

                                    And who except for Samsung would use the GNJ on their flagships? Like seriously, the naming scheme is so poor, the GN1, GNV and GNK are good sensors and the GN2 is still massive, larger than all flagships other than the ones with 1 inchers. Why don't Samsung use the GN2 or even the GNK on their own S and S+ phones?

                                    The JN5 is just so cheap, everyone used the JN1 for UW cams and such but now they're gonna move away from that because Sony's LYT sensors are now getting used more/getting cheaper ig? Which is for the better, the 1/2.76" size shouldn't be for top tier flagships, only mid tier ones.

                                    I hope Samsung uses the HP9 on their 5x next year and the JN5 at the very least on their 3x, that'd be a huge upgrade but I'm sure they're gonna put these 2 upgrades in 2-4 different generations and act like it's revolutionary.

                                      Yet they would never use these on their flagship smartphones

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                                        • 27 Jun 2024

                                        Samsung Semicon, not Electronics

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