Qualcomm wants to make it easier for phone makers to issue Android updates

28 June 2024
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Anonymous, 01 Jul 2024so where the proof ? if true, then we should already readi... moreBro buy a samsung phone run it for the first time enter the main screen run google play and press for updates and count.
Then run the samsung store update it first because it wont run and also run update list and check how many apps will jumps on you.
Then run update for galaxy UI or newer version of android count everything and then talk to me again. Try for example A14 samsung, or A54 or S23 doesnt not matter much.

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    Cpt.Power, 30 Jun 2024Bro updating a feature phone with just few bytes or kilobyt... moreso where the proof ?
    if true, then we should already reading tons of complaint/report in internet or reported here, if there 180+ apps in samsung phones running in background hogging performance

    we in internet world bro, its simple to find things over internet, no point saying nonsense

    samsung sure have some apps preinstalled on their phones
    but not much different compared to other, sony, xiaomi and the rest also have some preinstalled apps, and with few latest android version which periodically put apps to sleep, saying apps keep running in background un-noticed is just weird

    so what samsung phone you seeing with 180+apps running in background ?
    and where there screenshot of it ?

      Anonymous, 30 Jun 2024That's why they can promise 7 years of updates. No maj... moreThe ones promising 7 years of updates are only Google (to ensure more devices can utilize their Gemini AI data harvester), and Samsung (to improve their brand equity). No Chinese OEMs are doing 7 years, with few maxing out at 4 years and only on their latest flagships.

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        • 01 Jul 2024

        rsdt, 01 Jul 2024In high-end the kernel is not updated, it only receives sec... moreYes, I meant minor kernel version updates. Only few phones received major kernel version updates, like one xperia phone with 3.0 to 3.4

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          potato4k, 30 Jun 2024Slowdowns on Android is no longer a concern for the past 5 ... moreNot all the time. If you only see complaints on modern games like WuWa and Solo levelling, even on Samsung products. Wuwa launched with the controlled character walking like a statue on a Galaxy A55.

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            Anonymous, 29 Jun 2024Yeah, Xiaomi 12t pro did get to newer minor kernel Version ... moreIn high-end the kernel is not updated, it only receives security patches

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              • 30 Jun 2024

              Cheap talk, don't forget who had monopoly on the market along with shady contracts and patents, yes, QCOM was behind this practices!

              Have a nice evening.

                potato4k, 30 Jun 2024LOL. If you think 150 apps running in the background at the... moreBro mif you check your setting you can find it there. I am right you are wrong.

                  Anonymous, 30 Jun 2024That's why they can promise 7 years of updates. No maj... moreThe ones promising 7 years of updates are only Google (to ensure more devices can utilize their Gemini AI data harvester), and Samsung (to improve their brand equity). No Chinese OEMs are doing 7 years, with few maxing out at 4 years and only on their latest flagships.

                    Cpt.Power, 30 Jun 2024Which bugs??? You can experience same bugs on a fresh new ... moreLOL. If you think 150 apps running in the background at the same time, then you are a tech illiterate. You might want to frequent The Verge instead.

                      potato4k, 30 Jun 2024Slowdowns on Android is no longer a concern for the past 5 ... moreWhich bugs???
                      You can experience same bugs on a fresh new phone as you can have it in a very old device this has nothing to do with bugs.
                      Listen me now.
                      Playing Clash of Lords game since 2014 now i have 6th phone for that game.
                      Honestly my first one where i played thi thing was Huawei Y5 of 2014 time.
                      If i would ever try to run same game on a 10 years old phone with just 1GB of ram and 8GB of storage game will either not run properly or freezes. Back the havent had much issues with game. Same goes for my lenovo Vibeshot which i had since summer 2015 up to october 2017 when i bought my Motorola X4.

                      A7x performance cores are good for most basic apps like brownsing facebook tik tok etc.
                      Those apps still evolving but the hardware requirement will be minimal as always.
                      We cant say that about a game which in summer 2016 had more than 100 million downloads and over 75 millions active user base.

                      Another good example is diablo immortal which were struggling to run eve on Samsung S10.
                      Now even S24 have some issues to run it on full details without delay, laggs and bugs.
                      This game is hardware so heavy that you can forget to play it on a device with less than 8GB of ram and in c ase of Samsung since OneUI is full of bloatware where half of your performance is eaten just by running the brand new phone and seeing around 160 apps running on backround. This is a no for me and should be a no for anyone else.
                      Something like my Motorola Edge 40 pro have not much issues because of 12GB ram compared to 8 and only few preinstalled google apps on a fresh new phone.

                      Run lay store on new samsung around 60+ google apps waiting for update, then galaxy store waiting for update and inside galaxy store another 80-120 apps (device dependable in S series is around 120) waiting for update. So with 150+ apps running oon backround whole day you cant expect a decent performance if your phone have only 8GB ram from which half is instantly eaten plus lot of disk space too.

                        User, 30 Jun 2024Actually there was firmware updates for some button phones.... moreBro updating a feature phone with just few bytes or kilobytes of firmware and android which takes for example as much as 4-20 gigabytes device dependable is a huge difference.
                        Back then your socalled firmware had minimum features and apps.
                        Nowdays you run fresh new phone and 80+ apps running ion backround on a clean android device like Motorola or Google. Running fresh new samsung phone for example is like 80+ google apps and another 100+ by samsung

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                          Cpt.Power, 29 Jun 2024Bro back then in feature phone era there werent any updates... moreActually there was firmware updates for some button phones. I updated SonyEricsson T68i firware couple of times.

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                            Anonymous, 30 Jun 2024if they still sell batteries w/c is user replaceable for it... moreExactly.

                              This makes me remember how hard Fairphone has to do to roll out the Android 10 OS update on the FP2. The main problem was that the Snapdragon 801 SoC had already been EOL when Fairphone seeded the OS update.

                                Iam not Silberschatz, 30 Jun 2024They need to slowly do what Microsoft & Linux distribut... moreGoogle doesn't care about the hardware as long as people use Android. They are an advertising company. Look at their own Wearables, tablets, Tensor, etc. half hearted.

                                Google doesn't even care about updates nor security as the only requirement for Android device certification is 2 years if quarterly security updates. No OS upgrades is required.

                                  Cpt.Power, 29 Jun 2024Like anyone cares hahaha. I buy my phone from my network ... moreSlowdowns on Android is no longer a concern for the past 5 years or so. Any old phone with at least A78 performance core and UFS can handle even the latest Android just fine. The hardware is sufficient. Any issues is usually software bugs. 7 years of updates ensure the OEM to fix bugs.

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                                    trqhsn, 30 Jun 2024now Android has nothing big to update. recent updates are x... moreThat's why they can promise 7 years of updates. No major changes in the foreseeable future.

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                                      • 30 Jun 2024

                                      They need to slowly do what Microsoft & Linux distributions do :

                                      1. standardise basic minimum hardware architecture that any Googlified Android linux build expects & manufacturer board components should be required to have standardised fallback mode so Android's basic drivers run (bootloader firmware, CPU, RAM, UFS, display, audio)

                                      2. provide separately loading drivers using standardised API for custom hardware, that gets manufacturer updates separately via Play Store (microcode & CPU scheduler, storage driver, baseband modem, wifi, bluetooth, GPS, cameras, FP, all sensors, audio, non-standard display features, new codecs, etc.)

                                      3. require manufacturers to implement their custom UI skins on top of standardised Android base, and emphasise on modularity & separate updates

                                      4. Android updates should now be Google's responsibility, as OS is separate from manufacturer features, custom hardware & skins, and all manufacturers should have compulsory requirement to make driver & skin updates available via official Play Store. Their own store may be optionally used to give same updates.

                                        now Android has nothing big to update. recent updates are x.1, x.2, x.3....

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