Apple iPhone SE 4's back cover to be the same as iPhone 16

20 July 2024
It was initially rumored to have the same chassis as the iPhone 14.

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Lurker, 24 Jul 2024You can either compare all of them or none of them. And you... moreJust do side-by-side comparison and do the same task on both phones. Problem solved.

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    • 24 Jul 2024

    I wish they had revived the iPhone mini size/style

      HatingEqually, 24 Jul 2024Not when you compare it with the one that just got 2018 mAh... moreYou can either compare all of them or none of them. And you cannot compare all of them as I pointed previously.

      You can compare between different iPhones models, sure. Not not between iPhones and Android phones. You cannot even compare different brand of Android phones since software plays such a crucial role.

      Numbers (such as battery capacity, CPU clock speed and core count, amount of RAM and more) lost a lot of their meaning since software plays such a big role in contributing to end-user experience nowadays.

        potato4k, 24 Jul 2024Suit yourself. SE4 will use A18. No reason for Apple not to. I genuinely don't think you read what I said at all. They will use something older because it's CHEAPER

          Lurker, 23 Jul 2024Still, you cannot compare battery capacity numbers between ... moreNot when you compare it with the one that just got 2018 mAh lol, which we are talking about now. No amount of optimization that can makes the battery lasts longer with any phone with 5000 mAh under the same usage.

            Ouifuf, 23 Jul 2024That has nothing to do with what we're talking about. ... moreSuit yourself.

            SE4 will use A18. No reason for Apple not to.

              potato4k, 23 Jul 2024Android OEMs don't have the volume purchasing power li... moreThat has nothing to do with what we're talking about. Just because they have less purchasing power it doesn't suddenly mean they pay more for older chips. And even with better purchasing power apple will still get older chips cheaper.

                HatingEqually, 21 Jul 2024It's still useful, at least in some case, like the sma... moreStill, you cannot compare battery capacity numbers between iOS and Android phones. iPhone 15 Plus has a battery of 4383 mAh and smokes Xiaomis and many others that have 5000 mAh.

                  Ouifuf, 23 Jul 2024Yes and TSMC will pass that saving to the smartphone manufa... moreAndroid OEMs don't have the volume purchasing power like Apple, so they ARE paying more. Plus they take a lot less margin than Apple. So yeah, they can put a supposedly higher SoC on a cheaper phone.

                  Think about that for a second.

                    potato4k, 23 Jul 2024That's on the manufacturing side, which is TSMC. It�... moreYes and TSMC will pass that saving to the smartphone manufacturers like Apple in terms of contract negotiations. Companies pay a certain amount for these chips made for them over a period of time. If these chips still get manufactured after the contract ends (which is more than likely unless it's certain chips that don't sell well) then they will rediscuss contracts and since the chips cheaper, tsmc can sell it for cheaper with the same or higher margins.

                    Also you mean to tell me manufacturers are gonna pay more for an older processor to put in a cheaper phone? Think about that for a second.

                      Ouifuf, 23 Jul 2024You don't know anything about semiconductors or produc... moreThat's on the manufacturing side, which is TSMC. It's cheaper for them.
                      Andoid OEMs are not comparable as they are taking a lot less margin than Apple. In reality, even if they were using older SoCs, they were paying more per SoC.

                        potato4k, 23 Jul 2024That’s why the SE screen will be BoE. And no, A16 and A17... moreYou don't know anything about semiconductors or producing chips. The more mature a process gets, the higher the yields. The higher the yields, the cheaper it is for the buyers. This is why cheaper "gaming/performance" android phones use last years flagship. Snapdragon sells them cheaper because it's cheaper for them too.

                          Ouifuf, 23 Jul 2024The 18 vs 18 pro thing is a rumor, nothing confirmed till S... moreThat’s why the SE screen will be BoE.
                          And no, A16 and A17 will be produced at lower volumes and will cost Apple more per chip.

                            potato4k, 22 Jul 2024What do you think the A18 is? It's probably just a bin... moreThe 18 vs 18 pro thing is a rumor, nothing confirmed till September. Also apple doesn't just stop making A16 and A17s when the new iPhone launches, and older nodes are even cheaper.

                            Also don't forget that apple allegedly didn't want to spend $25 per screen on the SE, they love a healthy profit margin.

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                              • 22 Jul 2024

                              HatingEqually, 22 Jul 2024Funny, because I thought "majority" of consumers ... moreVanilla and SE iPhones are literally the best-selling cell phones in the world. The iPhone SE (2022) was in the top 5 best-selling cell phones in the United States, Canada and Japan in 2022. According to GSMArena, the Zenfone 10 costs $600 in North America. The Zenfone 10 is just another horrible looking Lagdroid, it has horrible cameras and, you know, it doesn't have the Apple logo on the back xD

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                                HatingEqually, 22 Jul 2024Not here though. You can even still find the brand new iPho... moreWow, I don't know what you were talking about when you said Crapple's prices were horrible in Indonesia. The iPhone SE (2022) supposedly costs $430 converted from the Indonesian Rupiah, which seems like a great price. And Indonesians can buy devices with OriginOS for $170. And they can buy Sharp devices. The market in Indonesia is a fascinating place :D

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                                  Anonymous, 22 Jul 2024Imagine those guys pretending to be "very grown up&quo... moreMaybe because some of us either don't need to work. Or earn money by just simply sitting infront of the computer.

                                  The boomer era of 9-5 is not the only way to live now. 😉

                                    We just need to retrofit the current SE body with USB-C.
                                    I do not want to accept an iPhone without a home button.

                                      Anonymous, 22 Jul 2024I believe the iPhone SE (2022) is no longer even available ... moreNot here though. You can even still find the brand new iPhone 11 here.

                                      And yeah SE3 is still available here.
                                      https://ibox.co.id/product/iphone-se-3rd-gen

                                        Anonymous, 22 Jul 2024But dude, the iPhone SE (2022) started at $429 when it laun... moreFunny, because I thought "majority" of consumers hate compact phones?
                                        There's Zenfone 10 btw which priced a bit cheaper than SE3 here, but yeah let's pretend it didn't existed. 🤷🏻‍♀️