Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra's battery capacity may disappoint

25 July 2024
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Anonymous, 25 Jul 2024Some people really just don’t want to see reality. You‘re h... moreDude I said smaller batteries are getting better optimizations

I didn't say batteries are getting smaller

Your bias against me doesn't even allow proper reasoning from my end?

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    nComGuy, 26 Jul 20245000mAh would be more than enough with optimized OS, its th... moreso even with 10% increase in battery would be very noticable with optimized OS ? we been stuck with it since s20 ultra

      xPandamon, 26 Jul 2024If people take the battery capacity staying the same as a s... moreMy bad, I read mentally challenged and whilst replying I had "braindead" in mind.

      Btw I could twist your argument the same way, bluetooth codecs don't matter because the changes will be minor I mean like who even listens to proper lossless songs anymore right?!! Lmao that's such a small difference and it'd be so hard to implement! It's just best to keep it as is and focus on other important things.

      battery tech matters? Are you the type of guy who goes mad about Li-ion vs Li-poly or something? I've tried both phones and both lose a similar amount of health. If you're talking about the new Si/C tech, it's a hit or miss. The X100 Ultra and the X Fold3 Pro have mid battery life for their size, the X100 Pro on the other hand exceptional battery life, then there's the Magic 6 Pro which has exceptional battery life, building on top of the Magic5 Pro's one. So yeah I think this tech needs 2 more years to get properly updated.

      "where is it supposed to go", they don't have particularly huge sensors, they can cram larger batteries instead. They give us neither large af batteries nor huge camera sensors. The main cam is the same size as that found in the IQOO 12, a gaming phone. Samsung has had the same battery size since the S20 Ultra, what's your point man? They've completely stagnated. You say that battery size changes don't matter. Honor, Vivo and Oneplus's larger batteries have netted HUGE improvements. Tell me, don't you think 10% more battery size for the S25 Ultra would mean a disproportionately larger increase in battery runtime for that phone due to Samsung's dialled in optimization? Also "larger or thicker" well duh, physics. If they want to make a brick phone at least make it a brick phone that has a huge battery. Not asking for the Z60 Ultra's 6k mah battery, but "only" 500 mah more, even 10% can go a long way.

      I even pointed out so many different examples of battery size changes resulting in large increases in my previous comment. But again, just to reiterate, take a look at the Oneplus 12, the iPhone Pro Maxes and so on.

      "redesign could being a lot of changes"
      No. Redesigns don't bring changes, take a look at the S22 Ultra compared to the S21 Ultra. The only notable thing is that they took the S Pen from the Note20 Ultra, took the frame and the basic dimensions/curves and then put the S21 Ultra's cameras on it. That was a redesign, did that bring "a lot" of changes? Samsung's clearly going the Apple route with counting a redesign as the primary change, nothing much else.

      "Even you prove me right, battery size does not mattery battery tech does"
      No. Again, Vivo used new battery tech and it was worse than before for the most part. New battery tech doesn't improve battery quality, only size does. I don't think you understand why the new battery tech is considered good. It's considered good because it is far denser than the current ones and also presumably lighter as well. That's why they can cram more. Battery is at the end of the day an energy holder, they just supply energy to the phone. You can't magically make a more efficient energy, you can only make either the usage of the energy more efficient (better software or better chips) OR have a larger battery to give you more battery life. Hope that makes sense to you.

      I'm not pissed cus I support the people crying or anything. I'm pissed cus you called them mentally challenged just for having an opinion. Then you call ME toxic for just being sarcastic, I didn't say anything properly derogatory or horrible to you yet you got hurt. Wow man you must be a really cool chap to talk with, one argument and you crumble lmao

      Anyways, people are getting mad BECAUSE battery is a super cheap thing. Why do you think wireless speakers can cram 10000 mah ones and power banks that are like 10-20 bucks have such huge batteries? If they can't even implement the minimum effort they can give to create a better overall experience then ofc people will be mad, especially when prices rise.

      The sad thing is that Samsung will put out all of these upgrades, everyone saying they won't ever do it is wrong. It's just that they'll put out 1 upgrade each gen. This gen was display and 1 zoom cam, next gen could be charging. Another gen would be battery size, another gen would be the main cam and the UW cam. I just hate all that.

        xPandamon, 26 Jul 2024It's not stagnation, battery capacity staying the same... moreSo basically you'd be fine with having a phone with 100mah battery as long as it charges fast? Capacity doesn't matter right? So what's the issue with it dying fast if you can carry a charger the size of a fist to fill it up in a minute? Also do tell what battery tech breakthroughs have we had besides solid state batteries?

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          Still only rumour, but I was expecting the next one to be at least 5100-5200mah , but if they do increase they also need to increase the charging speed because it's gonna lag behind

          Come on Samsung can't stay here forever

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            xPandamon, 26 Jul 2024It's not stagnation, battery capacity staying the same... moreDo tell me how long have Samsung been stuck at 5000mah ? I ain't asking for 6000mah but do expect some improvement, that's definition of stagnation , you're also gonna tell me staying on the same charging speed for years is also not stagnation

            One stage Samsung used to push hardware to be at the top , now it's more of let's see what's the minimum we can do whilst still getting away with it

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              xPandamon, 26 Jul 2024How do you people not understand that increasing battery si... moreDo tell me how long have Samsung been stuck at 5000mah ? I ain't asking for 6000mah but do expect some improvement,

              One stage Samsung used to push hardware to be at the top , now it's more of let's see what's the minimum we can do whilst still getting away with it

                SixSeis, 26 Jul 2024So you're telling me that the S24 Ultra is the S23 Ult... moreSamsung da best11!!111 Always give them money they need it!1

                  Azu10157, 26 Jul 2024What the hell are you yapping about? The S25U nor the ROG P... moreMy bad, was tired and got confused.

                  But anyways, what can we do about it? At least don't complain about it?

                    I wonder, is Samsung afraid to add a more powerful battery of like 5100, 5200 mAh? Even if you have to make the phone a little bit thicker, that is not a big deal for most of the people. Battery life is more important, right?

                      ua82, 26 Jul 2024It's stagnation, where's the innovation ? Accept... moreIt's not stagnation, battery capacity staying the same has been this way for many years, not just for Samsung. Other changes matter more, better battery tech, faster charging, more efficient hardware. Battery capacity does not. I am shocked to see how many people do not understand that.

                        DeepIn2U, 26 Jul 2024Glad you called out the hypocrite Saying Samsung is not... moreHe really didn't. He answered to my comment, which was an answer to his comment that spew absolute nonsense, without ANY actual argument. My point is: Battery size increases are pointless. They have been for many years, since they only change slightly, especially now that we have many model lines with fairly fixed sizes. More efficient SoC's, storage and RAM, better battery tech, faster charging, those matter. Keeping the battery size at 5000 mAh literally does not matter, those other factors make so much more of a difference, even if the battery would slightly shrink, we would still see improvements in the newer model. Just compare the S23U and the S24U, same battery capacity, yet there is a pretty noticeable difference in actual battery life. I point out the idiots raving on about the battery capacity not changing, taking that as a sign of nothing changing, anybody interested in tech will agree with me calling them stupid, cause that's what their aeguments are.

                          ua82, 26 Jul 2024That isn't the point though, it should be being improv... moreHow do you people not understand that increasing battery size is not an easy thing to do? Where do you want to out it? Chip efficiency, battery tech, faster charging, those are the things to look for. Complaining about battery sizes not changing only males you look like hypocrites, cause somehow it only matters for Samsung, despite being a useless measure..

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                            xPandamon, 25 Jul 2024They don't change much because it isn't neccessar... moreIt's stagnation, where's the innovation ? Acception is letting them get away with it

                              jiyen235, 25 Jul 2024Okay so, *I* am toxic? What are you then? You call people w... moreIf people take the battery capacity staying the same as a sign that nothing will change then yeah, I call them stupid. YOU called them braindead. Battery aize is the one thing that doesn't really change and that hasn't negatively impacted phones over the years at all. You can cram more inside, but on a model like the S Ultra, where is it supposed to go? You cna get maybe 200-300 mAh and that does not do much with sizes around 5000 mAh overall. Without the phone becoming larger or thicker, bigger batteries won't happen (not to mention, other new parts take up more space too). I agree with upgrading the battery tech, if it is reasonable to do and finally improves quick charging (the REAL change that needs to happen!) then that is obviously good. By the way, comparing old ones doesn't work, they weren't as consistent as new phones in terms of sizes and such, so obviously there were much more impressive number changes happening.

                              Also I never defended Samsungs reluctancy to change. I pointed out how the article says there is a big redesign coming, something the people I referred to failed to even realize. That redesign could being a lot of changes. I also pointed out things that need changing, obviously quicker charging, 10 bit displays, better bluetooth codec support and more. But unlike those other people I actually point out some actual issues instead of pointing at the useless measure of battery size which lost all meaning over the last years. Even you prove me right, battery size does not mattery battery tech does..

                              And no, price increases are not what I nor what anybody else wants. No clue why you even brought that up, cause clearly nobody defended that either. Also:

                              "exactly! Samsung should reduce battery sizes and only let the efficiency of the chips carry them forward! We only need the 3000 mah battery of the S7. Nothing more is needed. If anyone needs even 1 more mah then they're braindead and need to touch grass! Like what are you doing so much on your phone? Seriously??? Why use your phone so much?

                              Yk what would be even better? If we only paid Samsung 1400 dollars for nothing! Because phones are the big bad and Samsung is so nice that we should pay them for just existing!"

                              That shit is toxic. Absolutely nothing of worth was found in your comment, you just got so pissed by me pointing out that crying about battery sizes does nothing that you just had to write a pointless comment completely twisting my words.

                                5000mAh would be more than enough with optimized OS, its the 45W charging that is a complete joke in 2024

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                                  S, 26 Jul 2024Nobody needs to be loyal to anyone in this age. 5000 mAh b... moreThat isn't the point though, it should be being improved you just accepting stagnation

                                    Galaxy S20 Ultra: 5000mAh + 45W
                                    Galaxy S25 Ultra: 5000mAh + 45W
                                    5 years, no improvement, only Samsung can do 🤡

                                      I need a good reason to upgrade from the s24 ultra and a battery/charging upgrade would have been it. Dissapointing if they stick with 5000 with all the leaks suggesting that the snapdragon 8g4 will be quite power hungry. I use the 80% battery limiter to preserve battery health and typically need to recharge throughout the day. 45 watts is ok but definitely could be better. Hell I'd even take a consistent 45 watts as it only actually charges at that rate to 25% then drops to 35. Samsung have me hooked with the ecosystem but I'm starting to look at the Chinese brands more and more.

                                        Anonymous, 26 Jul 2024The x100 pro is still the best battery life phone as of rig... moreI never said the Magic6 Pro is THE battery champ, it's A battery champ. It's like talking about Ferrari and Lamborghini, they're both speed champs but not necessarily the best yk?

                                        Oh and btw I was talking about the X100 Ultra which everyone says doesn't have the best battery life and the X Fold3 Pro which has a disappointing battery life. The X100 Pro is a superb phone with amazing battery life, I just wonder if the Dimensity chip is more efficient than the SD 8 Gen 3 LOL.

                                        Also, I won't count red magic because that's a gaming phone and I won't count the Xperia 1 VI because I despise that phone, the 1 V and the 1 IV were going in the right direction and then Sony just took the worst route possible so yeah, no thanks. It just feels like their mobile division is run by uneducated part timers.

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