Xiaomi 15 Ultra again rumored to sport a 200 MP periscope telephoto camera

03 September 2024
It's also apparently going to launch earlier than its predecessor.

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  • 12 Sep 2024

I have suspicions that Xiaomi ain't adding the toggle just like that. We had some rumors about 4.x lens and now 10x lens. I assume that they wanna replace secondary 3.2x zoom camera and indeed add a 10x optical zoom, otherwise those rumors about 4.x camera don't make sense, like replace a 5x zoom with worse 4.x zoom? Or have a 5x zoom in combination of 4.x zoom? No logic. I hope they really implement 10x optical zoom, fingers crossed

    useless if no 10x telephoto.

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      • 05 Sep 2024

      kamigaz, 04 Sep 20241.4% more light. Let's say peanuts.No. In perfect light conditions, the S23 Ultra should capture 114% (not 1.4%) more light from distant objects (without overexposing and if it uses the same algorithms) because the sensor area of distant objects is (27.2mm/18.6mm)²= 2.14 times as large.

        Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024That's actually not true at all. The S23 Ultra's ... moreYou're definitely right, my apologies - I was incorrectly assuming that S23 Ultra was using a type 1/4 sensor when it was in fact type 1/3.4. S23 Ultra does gather slightly more light per field of view compared to S24 Ultra, I stand corrected.

          Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024"The S23/S22 Ultras with their 10x take far more natur... moreYou don't know what you're talking about. I have an S22 Ultra, I know what kind of photos it takes. I take shots in Pro Mode with RAW, Gcam AND in auto mode with sharpening turned down, the details look and are real. You compared easy shots in a store, try going out and taking those shots. Don't push your store taken photos on me. I go out and check out the things I took shots of up close so I know how they are "supposed" to look.

          You know exactly what I mean by digital binning. Stop trying to act like you're owning me with this stupid point. The words don't matter, my point/what I'm trying to say does. The binning of the pixels leads to a normal photo but the unbinned shots look extremely digital and artificial. If you haven't owned a phone that does that you wouldn't know.

          For examples of the S24 Ultra not taking "great" zoomed shots, look at the countless examples online shown by TechTablets, TechNick, The Tech Phenomena, ben's gadget reviews, LL Techview, etc. I've done my research, do yours.

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            • 05 Sep 2024

            YUKI93, 04 Sep 2024I wonder if the quad-camera setup will stay or if that 200M... morei own vivo x100 ultra. i can confirm at 10x the photo look amazing. at 20x is usable. so i hope x200 ultra to have 1 more 10x telephoto camera. that would be perfect upgrade along with 8gen4.

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              • 04 Sep 2024

              Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024That's actually not true at all. The S23 Ultra's ... more1.4% more light. Let's say peanuts.

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                • 04 Sep 2024

                Nick Tegrataker, 04 Sep 2024In terms of the light intake, S24 Ultra's 5x lens actu... moreThat's actually not true at all. The S23 Ultra's periscope camera has an effective lens diameter of 5.55mm whereas the S24 Ultra has 5.47mm. This means that the S23 Ultra captures 3% more light per exposure time from distant objects / at 230mm than the S24 Ultra.

                And at base Iso, the S23 Ultra's periscope should capture roughly 114% more light from distant objects without overexposing, if both phones use the same algorithms at base Iso.

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                  • 04 Sep 2024

                  Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024Translation: S23 Ultra 230mm > S24 Ultra 2x out of ... moreI'm still using my S23 Ultra. I might never let it go

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                    • 04 Sep 2024

                    jiyen235, 04 Sep 2024The S24 Ultra's lens either is terrible at digital zoo... more"The S23/S22 Ultras with their 10x take far more natural shots"
                    As I said, I compared them in a store and the S23 Ultra produces much more fake detail than the S24 Ultra at high zoom factors. The S23 Ultra will much more often show wrong numbers/letters when you take a photo of a distant sign. Most reviewers don't check which details are actually true. When something looks "better" at first, it doesn't mean that it is actually better.

                    "digital binning"
                    No, the binning is analog, even officially confirmed by Sony that Quad Bayer sensors use analog binning. Digital binning, also known as downsampling, wouldn't make any sense as the readout speed would be much slower and there would be no true noise benefit. Downsampling doesn't really improve the signal to noise ratio of an object in contrast to analog binning.

                      Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024Phone that fails to sell in China where it costs less than ... morehttps://x.com/XiaomiJapan/status/1830517007655285193

                      You don't have to make up random BS to prove your point when it instantly becomes obvious that you are lying. The poll results are as follows:

                      13.9% as a main phone
                      17.6% as a secondary phone/camera
                      68.5% voted for this option to view the poll results even though they don't have the phone to begin with

                      Also,
                      https://x.com/XiaomiJapan/status/1791060773109956853
                      Yep, 1st place in the smartphone market of Rakuten (One of the largest online wholesale services in Japan) from day 1 of the release. Pretty impressive for a SIM free phone given how popular carrier locked phones are in Japan.

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                        • 04 Sep 2024

                        Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024That feeling when Xiaomi 14 Ultra that supposedly sold ... moreAnd when other phones get dismissed over deliberately gimped versions of iphones regardless of how much better they are it only means apple is very overrated

                          Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024Translation: S23 Ultra 230mm > S24 Ultra 2x out of ... moreIn terms of the light intake, S24 Ultra's 5x lens actually gathers 18% more light than S23 Ultra's 10x lens, both shooting 230mm equivalent field of view. It's just that S24U's "new" telephoto lens suffers from lower microcontrast which becomes apparent during the 10x crop zoom.

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                            • 04 Sep 2024

                            Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024That feeling when Xiaomi 14 Ultra that supposedly sold ... morePhone that fails to sell in China where it costs less than $1000, would surely sell more in Japan where it costs far more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                            By the way, Xiaomi Japan made a pool on twitter and only 14% of mi 14 ultra users have it as main phone.

                            Ooooops ...

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                              • 04 Sep 2024

                              Nick Tegrataker, 04 Sep 2024Yeah, that's because the optics Samsung used for the 5... moreTranslation:

                              S23 Ultra 230mm > S24 Ultra 2x out of 115mm camera.

                              Center of 1/2.5" is equivalent to 6mm2. It is 25% than even 1/4" sensor.
                              That was obviously not end well.

                                Aierlan, 04 Sep 2024Nice. It's due a camera hardware upgrade as the 14 ult... moreSnapdragon 8 Gen 3 almost enough to reason to upgrade.

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                                  • 04 Sep 2024

                                  IpsDisplay, 04 Sep 2024If the company makes profit and has healthy margins The ... moreFunny, so why brands that sell little volume get attacked here when ppl do not even know if they are making profits or losses?

                                  LG was selling as much Motorola sells today, still was losing over 1 billion dollars per year . Other sell much less phones, but still making phones.

                                  Minions say it is 100x better than iphone.
                                  It is cheaper.
                                  Still only few geeks buy.
                                  Failure.
                                  Sales should be at least 1.000.000 units by now.

                                    Vasra, 04 Sep 2024What is " upgraded version of the Sony LYT-900"? ... moreBecause it's still not released

                                      jerem06, 04 Sep 2024The 50 MP x5 sensors also allow for a 10x hybrid zoom... If... moreThat is not what Oppo will bring. 6x with a 1/2" sensor is what the Ultra will apparently bring, they may bring a slightly longer focal length but that's still pure speculation.

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                                        • 04 Sep 2024

                                        Same thing over and over. Numbers go up, but picture quality stays the same. Overprocesing, bad camera SW and in the end unnatural, oversharpened and not propertly focused photos.
                                        You should replicate what Nokia was doing 10 years ago in Lumia mobile phones. Still unreachable for any todays mobile phone camera.