Xiaomi 15 Ultra again rumored to sport a 200 MP periscope telephoto camera
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- jiyen235
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- 04 Sep 2024
YUKI93, 04 Sep 2024I wonder if the quad-camera setup will stay or if that 200M... moreMoving parts are risky, that's why you don't see pop-up cameras on phones. Moving parts on dedicated cameras are a tried and tested formula so they work, it'd be a huge gamble for manufacturers to try to make a moving variable focal length camera on a phone, especially if the sensor is big because the heat from the sensor and the chip also needs to be handled. It's a huge hassle. And the only other variable zoom alternative was tested by Sony and it's far worse than just having a better zoom cam and then digitally zooming in.
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- 04 Sep 2024
jerem06, 04 Sep 2024The S24 Ultra is ridiculous at high zoom factors compared t... moreThe S24 Ultra's lens either is terrible at digital zooming or Samsung's algorithm is horrendous. The S23/S22 Ultras with their 10x take far more natural shots and surprisingly, Vivo's 10x is also more natural so I'm sure digital zooming isn't the problem it's the fact that a sensor that's made with digital binning in mind is being pushed to its limits. AFAIK the HP9 was just MADE to be for telephotos and stuff so they surely tweaked the algorithms to make sure that it took great shots after being zoomed in digitally.
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- 04 Sep 2024
What is " upgraded version of the Sony LYT-900"?
Can't find it in the Sony product release catalogue.
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- 04 Sep 2024
I wonder if the quad-camera setup will stay or if that 200MP sensor will be the only telephoto camera, like in the Vivo X100 Ultra. From a technical point of view, having two telephoto cameras at two different focal lengths should help offset the main camera's digital hybrid zoom processing algorithm. But when you have a camera sensor with such a huge resolution, you start to wonder whether having two telephoto cameras is necessary.
I don't know, but real physical optical zoom still makes sense at the end of the day. Remember the decade-old Samsung Galaxy S4 Zoom/K Zoom? I'd love to see a modern-day version of them with a modern SoC and a modern camera sensor with modern stabilization and at least 48MP resolution.
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- 04 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024I don't think so. Most people are not aware that the S... moreThe S24 Ultra is ridiculous at high zoom factors compared to Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi
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- 04 Sep 2024
dbizzle, 04 Sep 2024I like the sound of the 10x but I really hope they don'... moreI don't think they will downgrade the 3x telephoto lens on the Ultra model. On the Pro model it would be a LYT-600 1/1.95" which is, for me, sufficient.
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- 04 Sep 2024
jerem06, 04 Sep 2024The 50 MP x5 sensors also allow for a 10x hybrid zoom... If... moreI like the sound of the 10x but I really hope they don't downgrade the 3x sensor. The IMX890 is AMAZING in the X7 ultra. Would hate to see that go backwards
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- 04 Sep 2024
Man Xiaomi you don't NEED better cameras, you guys need to fix the quirks in your software on launch day. And if that's too tough then at least fix the videography quirks. I love the video processing but the metering/exposure changes are too drastic. If the videos could be more consistent it'd be banger. And I hope the selfie camera is good this time, a long overdue upgrade.
Anyways I think the only sensor that NEEDS a boost is the UW cam, it's too wide and thus requires a lot more light than other sensors to look good. A 1/2" or larger cam would be splendid.
Oh and please fix the battery, Xiaomi underperforms compared to nearly every other manufacturer at its price bracket. Even Sony is doing great now. No excuses anymore.
Interested in seeing Xiaomi's take on the 200 MP cam tho, I hope it's a different focal length compared to Vivo and there's still a middle ground telephoto to bridge the gap between the super telephoto and main cam. That'd be nearly perfect.
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- 04 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024All this effort to sell less than 300.000 units in the end ... moreIf the company makes profit and has healthy margins
The quantity doesn't matter too much
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- 04 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024Samsung did. Results are worse than previous 230mm. I don't think so. Most people are not aware that the S23 Ultra uses a lot of machine learning at high zoom factors. I compared them in a store and the S23 Ultra produces much more fake detail than the S24 Ultra.
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- 04 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024Samsung did. Results are worse than previous 230mm.
Yeah, that's because the optics Samsung used for the 5x telephoto on S24U are nowhere near as good as what the competition used on their respective flagships this year.
X100 Ultra, for instance, resolves a commendable amount of details at 10x and higher magnification settings because the lens is very sharp and the Isocell HP9 has a built-in machine-learning-based remosaicing pipeline to extract a higher level of details.
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- 04 Sep 2024
jerem06, 04 Sep 2024The 50 MP x5 sensors also allow for a 10x hybrid zoom... If... moreSamsung did. Results are worse than previous 230mm.
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- 04 Sep 2024
The 50 MP x5 sensors also allow for a 10x hybrid zoom... If this is confirmed, I prefer Oppo's approach, which could announce a 50 MP 1/2.93" x10 in addition to a 50 MP 1/1.95" x3
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- 04 Sep 2024
Aierlan, 04 Sep 2024Nice. It's due a camera hardware upgrade as the 14 ult... moreAnd other telephoto and ultrawide
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- 04 Sep 2024
Aierlan, 04 Sep 2024Nice. It's due a camera hardware upgrade as the 14 ult... moreUpgrade of front cam to 50 mp sensor was also mentioned
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- 04 Sep 2024
Nice. It's due a camera hardware upgrade as the 14 ultra was basically almost the same as the 13 ultra
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- Anonymous
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- 04 Sep 2024
Anonymous, 04 Sep 2024All this effort to sell less than 300.000 units in the end ... moreThat feeling when Xiaomi 14 Ultra that supposedly sold 'poorly' still managed to top Xperia in the carrier-unlocked phone market of Sony's home country Japan...😂
This anonymous Sony boy's melancholy will never end💀
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- 04 Sep 2024
All this effort to sell less than 300.000 units in the end when in China its price is same of non-pro iphone.
Clients that are willing to pay more than $750 in China only want Huawei or Apple.