Samsung begins mass production of 1Tb QLC V-NAND
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Hugo, 13 Sep 2024Companies use the decimal system. This is to show a higher ... morehttps://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/difference-between-slc-mlc-tlc-3d-nand
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Anonymous, 14 Sep 2024so, QLCs are the worst ever technology with regards to life... moremy ass man, 870 qvo 4tb price - 330 euros, 990 pro 4tb price - 340 euros.... qlc is all about corporate greed, i absolutely will not support it.
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technically correct, 14 Sep 2024https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/difference-... moreso, QLCs are the worst ever technology with regards to lifespan and datafailure but cheap...
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https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/difference-between-slc-mlc-tlc-3d-nand
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2024You and Not Again are both confidently incorrect. Computers... moreAs far as i understand, computers represent in binary to end users whereas companies represent in decimal on their packaging, maybe i am wrong.
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2024You and Not Again are both confidently incorrect. Computers... more... but companies use decimal GN and TB to align with HDDs
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Hugo, 13 Sep 2024Companies use the decimal system. This is to show a higher ... moreYou and Not Again are both confidently incorrect. Computers natively operate in binary. This includes flash chips. They may represent decimal values to end users, but that has no bearing on their native functionality.
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2024QLC ist not abot number of cells, Quad means 4 level of ene... moreQLC and stuff all mean how many bits are in one cell. Q means quad, so 4 bits, S means single so 1 bit per cell and MLC is multi which is just mostly used to mean DUAL level cell, so there's 2 bits per cell.
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Not Again, 13 Sep 2024"A terabit is a measurement for 1 trillion bits or pie... moreCompanies use the decimal system. This is to show a higher number for example in decimal a kilo is 1000 whereas in binary it is 1024. This is just a marketimg gimmick. Our computers and phones, on the other hand, detect using the binary system. So your 128gb phone is never really binary-128gb but decimal-128gb which is a little less.
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- 13 Sep 2024
Interesting todays 1TB SSD cards or disk cost as much as 64 Megabytes cards 30 years ago.
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2024Slight nitpick: 1 terabit is 128 gigabytes, not 125. Flash ... more"A terabit is a measurement for 1 trillion bits or pieces of binary data. It represents a shift from the prefix “giga” or billion with the prefix “tera” or trillion. Terabits are often contrasted with terabytes, which is a term for 1 trillion bytes, each of which is made up of eight individual bits."
So whilst BINARY would have 128 Gb in order to surpass 1 trillion. 1TB = 125Gb
There are many sites that give a better description than I have
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Internet Nomad, 13 Sep 2024Its to low, we need 8Tb/1TB in single chip to put prices do... moreThat's basically 8x more than what Samsung just started mass producing.
Will we see this density within this decade? I doubt that.
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Slight nitpick: 1 terabit is 128 gigabytes, not 125. Flash chips use base 2 bytes, not the base 10 hard drives use. An end user device might show 1000GB, but the hardware will be 1024GB, and the extra 24 GB go to overprovisioning.
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Its to low, we need 8Tb/1TB in single chip to put prices down radically.
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Anonymous, 13 Sep 2024QLC drives are meant for mass storage rather than high perf... moreThen you will have to wait quite a bit for It to happen.
Current prices for cheapest internal drives:
4TB Seagate SkyHawk HDD is sold for 87 euro.
4TB Kingston NV2 SSD is sold for 234 euro.
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MasTomi, 13 Sep 2024QLC is independent from nVME and bus speed. What you ref... moreDRAM'less SSDs are perfectly fine if they have HMB (host memory buffer) support. Amazing? Probably not, but you're not going to notice the performance difference at all unless you have an extremely specific use case which almost nobody with a standard home PC would.
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LOL, 13 Sep 2024QLC was supposed to be much cheaper, slower variant, but it... moreQLC drives are meant for mass storage rather than high performance. If you get me a 4TB QLC drive at the same price range as a 4TB HDD - I'll take it even if it's SATA3 speeds.
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yoink, 13 Sep 2024I have a qlc ssd. It's so slow man. Not that faster th... moreWhat device are you using can give a more detailed picture of the speed differences between TLC and QLC?
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>Now they are upgrading that to a quad-level cell (QLC) solution
QLC is usually considered a downgrade to TLC, because speeds are slower when the cache is used up and because it has a much shorter lifespan. Upside is that it is cheaper. I haven’t used QLC so I can’t attest to the longevity disadvantage. Maybe there are sources who tested it.
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jiyen235, 13 Sep 2024QLC is not an "upgrade". SLC is the goated one. T... moreQLC ist not abot number of cells, Quad means 4 level of energy vs. three in TLC und 1 in SLC, SLCs are the most durable und fastest cell types but expensive, QLCs are the worst regarding durability and the most cheapest technology.... regardless the type of data transfer protocolls... like NVME etc. ...