Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra benchmarked with Snapdragon 8 Gen 4

24 September 2024
The CPU cluster reveals two cores at 4.2 GHz.

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Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024it's a combinations of cores p-core higher freq. mo... moreKeep inside "performancecores are NOT all rested the same across SoC use cases!

Remember ARM has ALWAYS BEEN more efficient than any other architecture dating back as far as the initial chip running off less than 1W!

Performance does NOT have to be or mean MORE POWER!
As evidenced with IBM+Apple Design team and Motorola the PowerPC chip used shorter threads to achieve more efficiency across the architecture allowing for its RISC chip design (same as ARM essentially) to process more instructions per cycle than the older traditional X86 desktop chips.

Today in mobile too many people MISTAKENLY READ ghz as the amount of POWER a processor uses vs it's true meaning cycles per second!

In a lamens analogy a person swinging a YoYo on a shorter string around a full circle gets higher frequency or Hz much more efficiently and with LESS energy to begin 1 revolution or to even maintain every subsequent revolution than someone eith a YoYo of the same weight and mass and aerodynamic shape using a long string. Literary try this yourself OR look at the inner spoken of gears Ona bicycle vs the outer sprockets = you'll use more energy to travel the same distance on the same bike than using the "lower" physical gears (yet we call them higher gears). It may FEEL like less work cause your legs don't feel the strain of the energy being spent but your lungs and heart will VERY quickly.

Same deal here with SoC's. For Single Core processing Apple's chip architecture team just has been doing it lo ger than most and much more efficiently than others.

In short order that'll change.

Once you understand this you'll understand this hyperbole of mobile SoCs causing extreme heat and too much battery is nonsense. Yes heat is created that's physics boys and girls but not unnecessary. The entire PBC is architecturally developed for various tolerances and THATS why we have throttling on ANY SoC since leaving the server farms!!

Time to read and catch up kids.

    Krjal, 24 Sep 2024I'm surprised to see the 8 gen 4 isn't armv9. I w... moreLasing? Lol. It's the best performance of all the competition this far. Reading fails you.

      Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024They are the same thing nowdays. Bring back Note series ... moreSuch finish and nonsense sentiment for a for a phone all just 6 yrs old. You want a note go buy it from a thrift store!

        Luke, 24 Sep 2024not bad, but this whole thing with flagship smartphones str... moreU know nothing about the battery this week have nor the efficiency it'll be set with in regards to optimizations.

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          1989 nothinghappened, 24 Sep 2024This is the closest any other phone has gotten to apple in ... moreEhmm.. apple bench?

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            • 24 Sep 2024

            Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024Why would you expect them to close the gap with Apple when ... moreDefine one generation behind. The a16 bionic isn't powerful enough to be ahead of 8gen3, so define it?

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              • 24 Sep 2024

              it's a combinations of cores

              p-core higher freq. more power = less battery
              e-core low freq. more battery = less power

              more power = more heat
              less heat = low performance

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                • Anonymous
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                • 24 Sep 2024

                Too much RAM in Samsung flagship. This is capacity of budget phones. Not ultra budget but budget.

                  Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024Why would you expect them to close the gap with Apple when ... morethis year they're half a gen behind, next year they might close the gap is all im saying.

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                    Krjal, 24 Sep 2024I'm surprised to see the 8 gen 4 isn't armv9. I w... moreYes it uses ARMv9.2-A

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                      jiyen235, 24 Sep 2024hmm early benchmarks, yeah, but this is more in-line with w... moreWhy would you expect them to close the gap with Apple when you know damn well that Apple always has the latest architecture on its Bionic? At the end of the day, it's all just a numbers, and the Snapdragon flagship will always be one generation behind the Apple Pro Bionic

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                        Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024Yeah, it's silly how the smartphone market is the only... moreWhile you ARE right that these chips need active cooling to sustain the performance, you are missing the point - these are mobile devices, other than some very, VERY few games, you can do pretty much everything else people do on their phones even on low-end devices with no issues at all.
                        This is the reason companies don't care - they: 1) put a high number so fanboys can argue and create publicity/visibility for products; 2) they don't care how long those numbers can stay high because it pretty much doesn't matter.

                          I Just Read, 24 Sep 2024We know this (starting with the sweet to the main dish and ... moreIf the clockspeeds are true will you delete your account?

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                            ashrobb, 24 Sep 2024Thought about the same thing lol. That is dangerously close... moreWhy do they do that?

                              1989 nothinghappened, 24 Sep 2024This is the closest any other phone has gotten to apple in ... moreThought about the same thing lol. That is dangerously close to A18 single core performance, so Apple must be working overtime to make them push a new update on Geekbench 😂

                                We know this (starting with the sweet to the main dish and yes saving the best till last 😁)

                                Apples
                                Architecture A18 2024
                                2x 4.04 GHz – Mauna Kea,
                                4x 2.2 GHz – ???????????

                                Architecture A17 2023
                                2x 3.78 GHz – Everest
                                4x 2.11 GHz – Sawtooth

                                Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 2023 Architecture
                                1x 3.3 GHz – Cortex-X4
                                3x 3.15 GHz – Cortex-A720
                                2x 2.96 GHz – Cortex-A720
                                2x 2.27 GHz – Cortex-A520

                                Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 2022 Architecture
                                1x 3.2 GHz – Cortex-X3
                                2x 2.8 GHz – Cortex-A715
                                2x 2.8 GHz – Cortex-A710
                                3x 2 GHz – Cortex-A510

                                Before I spoil the spoiler alerts SNAPDRAGON 8 GEN 4 it is a holding name for now
                                Only if this SoC remains a 4nm process WITHOUT Qualcomm Oryon will it be named Snapdragon 8 Gen 4. I GUARANTEE IT!

                                If next month October 2024 Qualcomm releases Oryon &/OR 3nm there simply won't be a SNAPDRAGON 8 Gen 4 there could be Snapdragon 8S Gen 4

                                First this 2+6 configuration is almost as bizarre as asking me to accept Monopoly money as a legal tender. I'm leaving it at that. 2 x 4.19 GHz – 6 x 2.90 GHz

                                Second Even using Apple clock speed only increased by 0.26 Ghz or just below 7%

                                You could have at least waited BEFORE guessing this part.
                                The clock speed instead of jumping the shark jumps Apple, a 0.89 Ghz increase!!!
                                This is a near 27% over the previous 3.125%
                                A double digit increase on an architecture that makes no generational sense.

                                These so-called tipsters really don't know/ REALLY REALLY DON'T KNOW*** /don't care, that aside really Samsung are going to leak Qualcomm sensitive information 2 weeks before Qualcomm official Announcement

                                *** Geekbench benchmarks can be run in PRIVATE by any manufacturer. Only these fabricated leaked items that are missing so many other criteria seem to be the ones published.
                                These tipsters with their fake stories ARE CONSISTENTLY wrong, an iota of common sense if only

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                                  Anonymous, 24 Sep 2024Damn that's a disappointing score i expected it to be ... moreIt can scale up and reach those leaked numbers....but do you really want to cook your device for performance? Power consumption soars to reach those values.

                                    hmm early benchmarks, yeah, but this is more in-line with what i expected. I don't mean to be a snob but I really really hope Snapdragon chips are slower than the Mediatek chips this year, so they're forced to reduce costs next year in fear of companies switching sides.

                                    Anyways, I think the end scores are gonna be 3k+ for single core and 9k+ for multi score. Hopefully they close the gap with Apple. This year we're gonna get close single core performance and better multi-core performance, hopefully next year Qualcomm and Mediatek can provide a better/the same single core performance as well. Apple's days of acting all snobby are over.

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                                      I'm surprised to see the 8 gen 4 isn't armv9. I wonder if that's why they boosted the clock speeds so much, to make up for the v8 instruction set lagging behind in performance.

                                        This is the closest any other phone has gotten to apple in geekbench single core for like a decade.

                                        Expect geekbench 7 soon.

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