Samsung struggles with Exynos 2500 production, all Galaxy S25 units could switch to Snapdragon

07 October 2024
The foundry is facing poor yield rates, according to sources in Korea.

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  • Anonymous
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  • 14 Nov 2024

Just stick to 4 nm... Besides, 8 Gen 3 levels of performance are more than enough, even for years to come.

    Come on, you can do it Sammy :D

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      • Luke
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      • 10 Oct 2024

      Rbx, 07 Oct 2024Exynos chips 1380 and 1480 powering A54 & A55 are plagu... moreI don't think that info is entirely correct/trustworthy.
      I can say from personal experience with a52s, a50,a55, s8 ultra and s9 here (being used at the same time around me at home) -> latest Samsung updates brought lots of changes in WiFi/intelligent wifi/advanced wifi section of settings. Those cause quite few issues with wlan connectivity and battery drain, but once disabled all is back to normal. My wife doesn't have battery drain on A55 , neither the rest of the devices.

      So I'd suggest to stop spreading rumors, just because someone mentioned "it has to be the CPU".. Samsung has lot of software/bloatware, way too much to be overlooked and ignored in case of battery drain. Single bt tag unit around could cause it even

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        • Salih
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        • 09 Oct 2024

        S24 is good enough no phone need yet

          Armorkingu, 08 Oct 2024They have been struggling for many Exynos chips already. Ma... moreThen y'all will complain Qualcomm overcharges for their SoCs since they can charge whatever the hell they want, just like TSMC, if this is the tendency.

          We need Samsung Foundry (and perhaps SMIC) to succeed so we can have a competitive chipset market.

          And Samsung Foundry needs the Exynos 2500 to be a good chip, so Qualcomm will consider them to make SD8 chips in their 3nm node.

            Batteri Voltas, 08 Oct 2024gotta love how fanboyism has gotten into chipsets too nO... moreEh it's been a thing with PC's for decades. It's only natural that it moved to phones since they have become so powerful. Tribalism is an innate human tendency

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              • Anonymous
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              • 08 Oct 2024

              Armorkingu, 08 Oct 2024They have been struggling for many Exynos chips already. Ma... moreI believe Exynos problem is NOT the design team
              BUT the production team.

                They have been struggling for many Exynos chips already. Maybe these greedy Koreans should start outsourcing their chips instead of trying to make their own chips?

                  Sam N8 808 owner, 08 Oct 2024I'm not a fanboy of anything here, but one question:- ... more7 gen 1 use A710 cores, that's why it's below par, sd 4 gen 2, 480, 7s gen 2, 6 gen 1 etc all of them were made by Samsung and they do well.

                  Same to Exynos all modern ones like E1480, E2400, E1330 etc do well. Samsung has no issue with its 4nm yields already surpassed 75% and it's on par with Tsmc, even utilization rate reached 90% and foundries are almost full.

                  They have trouble with their new node, 3nm which E2500 was suppose to be made with.

                    Anonymous, 08 Oct 2024"Low yields means more cost to soc maker, you can surv... moreI know and I don't disagree with your point, but I was responding to someone who suggest to use midrange/lowend soc in these nodes, which will rise price and make phones not affordable at all.

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                      • Anonymous
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                      • 08 Oct 2024

                      Hemedans, 07 Oct 2024Low yields means more cost to soc maker, you can survive wi... more"Low yields means more cost to soc maker, you can survive with flagship soc because those are sold at premium price but hard to survive with midrange, there is a reason why midrange and lowend soc use more mature nodes."

                      True on profit and premium price.
                      But you can't sell bad product as good product.
                      It will ruin the brand.
                      Slowly but sure is the best way to build brand

                        I'm not a fanboy of anything here, but one question:-

                        If they can't get a midrange chipset (SD 7 Gen 1, made by Samsung, failed terribly in M55, F55, etc), how do you expect them to make such a high performance Exynos a success?

                        Already previous Exynos versions have performed a gen lower than their launch time. If they're stable, that is.

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 08 Oct 2024

                          AbruptDecay, 08 Oct 2024Exynos chips are a waste of people's moneyExynos 2400 is good and better than 8 gen 2...it's just that it's not upto 8 gen 3

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 08 Oct 2024

                            TheSnowWinterR7, 08 Oct 2024Frankly, I won't be shock if Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 or 8 E... more855 was around 35-55$
                            865/870 was 55-70$

                            The price creep only came after 8 gen 1 tanked and the subsequent chips were starting to be priced ridiculously

                              gotta love how fanboyism has gotten into chipsets too

                              nO sNaPdRaGoN nO bUy

                                Luke, 08 Oct 2024Some people probably think a camera button is what makes a ... moreSome Sony Xperia mid-ranger up to 2018 models (XA2 series) used to have proper, physical camera buttons. But since the Xperia 10 series commenced, it doesn't have the feature anymore, only leaving the outgoing vanilla flagship Xperia 5 series and continuing the upper flagship Xperia 1 series to have the camera button, plus the new iPhone 16 lineup. So, there is some truth in your statement about smartphones since 2019.

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 08 Oct 2024

                                  Anonymous, 08 Oct 2024Totally false. Europeans buy exynos powered samsungs paying... moreHaha

                                    Vegetaholic, 08 Oct 2024Sad news for everyone, don't get upset when 8 gen 5 wi... moreFrankly, I won't be shock if Snapdragon 8 Gen 5 or 8 Elite (2026) will have the expenses' procurement above 250 USD, as 8 Gen 3 right now costed 200 USD and 8 Gen 4/8 Elite rumoured to cost from 199 to 240 USD. Snapdragon 8 series flagship already costed three digits since 888/8 Gen 1 (around 130-150 USD). Base Snapdragon 865 and 855 were the last Snapdragon chipset that costed below three digits as far as I can tell.

                                      DarlingYext, 07 Oct 2024Oh no they are struggling to make enough Exynos chipsets. M... moreSad news for everyone, don't get upset when 8 gen 5 will cost 250 dollars because TSMC has no competition.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 08 Oct 2024

                                        Sarkirssian, 07 Oct 2024 No, because it will make the phone more expensive. And a ... moreTotally false. Europeans buy exynos powered samsungs paying more than americans who get snapdragon versions.

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