vivo X200 Pro, X200 Pro mini official with big batteries and Dimensity 9400
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- 14 Oct 2024
pl2rts, 14 Oct 2024That time the normal phones were also mini if we look phone... moreVanilla iphone actually isn't that narrow, 6,2" 20:9 screen would be more interesting than 6,2" 19,5:9 screen.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Remember when mini phones were actually mini? 😔✊That time the normal phones were also mini if we look phones past 5 years how large these are now. And even then the mini phones were only flagship hardware and expensive top end.
And this one is not even a mini with 6.31 inch screen that will be bigger then standard iPhone or Samsung S class.
Probably close to the size of Xiaomi 14 with 6.36inch screen
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They actually tried it with the mini.
Sure the term "mini" is subjective, but in the current market a Pixel 9 sized phone is smaller than most.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Sensor 70% smaller will not have better iso performance.
... moreDynamic range of a sensor is heavily affected by an overall circuit design. lyt-818 is the first Sony sensor for a mobile application that can read out an image and 3 conversion gain settings then combines them improve dynamic range substantially. It's a feature IMX989 in X100 Pro completely lacked. You should go read Sony's release document for this sensor since you can easily find one online.
The new sensor uses the new 22nm lithography, why is this important? Because this implies circuit generates less heat, which is the primary source of shot noise, and more efficient conversion of photons to electron signals would reduce read noise as well.
Canon EOS RP has a full frame sensor that is 4x larger than the micro four third sensor in Panasonic GH6. Yet the former falls apart much quicker when you try to edit raw files in post because RP's older sensor has a terrible dynamic range. Sensor design plays a major role just as much as sensor size itself.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024It is 1/1.6". True dng ( no NR nor sharpening on it ... moreIn reality iPhone 16's sensor is still below iPhone 16 Pro when comparing noise at the same ISO settings. The double layer transistor tech of Exmor T helps reducing noise a bit but it improves the highlight retention the most when shooting in high contrast scene as it increases full well capacity of each pixel, but this is not very relevant in low light.
The effectiveness of the new tech also comes down to implementation. Xperia 1 VI suffers in low light compared to Find X6 Pro from last year because Sony's post processing is so primitive to the point where they have to rely on slower shutter speed to minimize noise as much as they can. No fancy AI noise reduction to magically sweep the noise while retaining details.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Photo attached to video? Great way to check. He Gives information to see samples, also it's pretty easy to tell anyway unless he is doing it on purpose
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Sensor 70% smaller will not have better iso performance.
... moreYou have no idea what noise is, lol.
Noise is created inside the sensor. When you have a sensor made from an improved process, i.e. 22nm vs 40nm, noise will decrease. It has nothing to do with sensor size.
A new APSC sensor can definitely have less noise than an ancient full frame sensor.
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- 14 Oct 2024
Wow...
But wait... USB 2.0?
In 2024/25 on a 256-1TB device that shits 10-15MB JPEGs?!?!
What were they thinking??
This thing is DOA for anyone that backs up their phone...😂😂😂
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- 14 Oct 2024
Darth Caesium, 14 Oct 2024What's the equivalent of iPhone 15's Exmor T sens... moreIt is 1/1.6". True dng ( no NR nor sharpening on it like some brands do) should give something close to 1/1.12".
LYT800 / LYT-T808 have 80% of light sensitivity level compared to 1", while their size is less than half.
Basically this tech increases 2x the power. While working on lower voltage. Much less heat while video recording
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ua82, 14 Oct 2024Look for yourself, techtablets on YouTube , preferably on a... morePhoto attached to video?
Great way to check.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024You forgot to account for lower noise.
Less than 1 f-st... moreSensor 70% smaller will not have better iso performance.
It is like saying APSC at iso 6400 can give cleaner files than full frame at iso 3200.
This does not exist.
Imx818 is probably just 707 at new litography. Same way done to 989 to lyt900.
To give lower noise at higher iso, semsor needs to increase sensitivity to light.
Exmor RS is not gonna double it while reducing size.
You judge sensor power by looking at jpeg. 🤦🏻♂️
Metal gymnastics here is too extreme to defend a brand.
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Electronic microscopy done last year confirmed iphones 15 a... moreWhat's the equivalent of iPhone 15's Exmor T sensor? Also, does the iPhone 16 have this same sensor?
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Darth Caesium, 14 Oct 2024I don't think the iPhone 15 has Exmor T. It was rumour... moreElectronic microscopy done last year confirmed iphones 15 and 15+ do have exmor T tech. Same sensor is inside 16/16+. I am not sure name is imx804 or 904.
The imx903 ( exmor T 1/1.14") was supposed to be used by 16 pro duo. Nobody knows why. I suppose sony semicon is not able now to make the amount apple needs.
Exmor T : iphones 15/15+/16/16+ , xperia 1v/5v/1vi , Find N3/Open, Nio phone 2
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Let's start. Only thing he says is about exposure wh... morelyt-818 has a dynamic range of 86db, which is far greater than IMX989's 60.2db (=10EV), and even surpasses lyt-900's 84.3lb value. Also according to Sony Semicon:
'By developing a new, highly efficient circuit for converting photodiode charges into voltage, SSS has significantly reduced random noise (RN), achieving an RN of 0.95e-, the lowest of any of its CMOS sensors for mobile applications.'
Looks like Vivo is testing water with a smaller but highly advanced sensor and waiting for the tech to roll down to a larger sensor when they will be able to use it for Ultra or X300 series.
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- 14 Oct 2024
ua82, 14 Oct 2024Look for yourself, techtablets on YouTube , preferably on a... moreWhy should I? I don’t watch my photos on TV. So as I said, they look basically the same. Also, your TV is probably not well calibrated enough to see which one is actually „better“ (whatever one understands in better, as all the computational photography is ruining smartphone cameras and makes them less natural than their predecessors from 8 years ago)
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024In a world where every high end phone camera looks pretty m... moreLook for yourself, techtablets on YouTube , preferably on a large 4k TV
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Anonymous, 14 Oct 2024Remember when mini phones were actually mini? 😔✊4.7 inch
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ua82, 14 Oct 2024Just seen few hands on it wipes the floor with iPhone takin... moreIn a world where every high end phone camera looks pretty much the same, I’m sure that is the truth and not a gross overstatement /s
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- 14 Oct 2024
robi10101298, 14 Oct 2024useless if china only and if in Europe will be limited to n... moreThat's why I'll be likely getting OnePlus 13 , it should have the bands I need and can flash oxygen