vivo X200 Pro in for review

20 October 2024
And a little impromptu shootout against the X100 Ultra.

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Anonymous, 11 hours ago" Quad Bayer sensor is capable of resolving a comparab... moreTell me why Honor View 20 from 2018 was resolving GSMArena's balcony pattern almost perfectly without showing any coloured artifacts.
Tell me how X100 Ultra's 2x crop zoom was virtually flawless even compared to dedicated 2x telephoto cameras used on other phones.

You always resort to "No one believes this" argument when you can't provide a single proof to refute my claim. Very typical of you.

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    alirezaasol, 4 hours agomain camera of x100 ultra is clearly better. x200 pro is ov... more"It will be a breast" 💀

      main camera of x100 ultra is clearly better. x200 pro is over sharpened.
      also tele cameras are same. only difference is that x200 pro is sharpened more and x100 ultra is softer.
      sony must release a dual layer 1" sensor. it will be a breast

        notafanboy, 12 hours agoFind X8 Pro has a disappointing camera setup. And I don... moreThere are no credible rumors for the x8 ultra camera set up yet. I doubt they'll downgrade the camera setup that much. A recent leak by DCS said that that every 'super cup' in the top 5 (which includes Oppo) would use a 100mp+ periscope sensor. Still early days but Oppo is probably closer to including that hp9 than having a downgraded camera system. Or maybe they'll do both, lyt600 for the 3x and hp9 at 5x or something. I'd actually be very happy with that but who knows

          Nick Tegrataker, 17 hours agoI should've been clearer with my wording. What I meant... moreabout the sensor size talk :
          no like, I believe it'd be a head-to head battle with even the X100 Pro, the size difference can be felt easily imo, like i've seen LOTS of 1/1.56" sensor main cam shots and i can sort of intuitively tell it's not THAT big, 1/1.3" shots look a LOT more natural and 1 inch shots look SUPER natural. The size difference can not be properly compensated. Like only Vivo can make it look like they're actually better BUT I think it's just Vivo's better processing with the V3+ and the new Dimensity chip and not just the LYT advancements in tech. Not saying there's no difference that new tech can make, but even with those advancements, the old one will be better or at worst the same. If the new one was really better then Vivo would've plastered it all over. They didn't. They only said it "rivals". That's marketing speak, Sony's 1/1.35" sensor was also said to rival a 1 incher and so was the LYT-808 of the OP12 and the Open. Hyping up the new sensor so as to not upset anyone who buys this.

          About the full res talk :
          Maybe you haven't seen any proper comparisons OR you have done comparisons yourself, i don't know for sure, but what i DO know is that quad bayer can never match a full res shot with a normal one. That's because these phones are made with binning down in mind, when taking full res shots, the shots are in a mode that was not meant to be shot on, it's just a gimmick, it's not that resolving either, details look mushy/seem to have some sort of ghosting/artifacting.

          For example, go and take a look at the GSMArena samples in the Nokia 808 Pureview review, you'll see the supremely natural, yet overly abundant, detail. Then for further evidence, go to the youtube channel : " Willitbeatnokia? ". This guy has excellent videos on stuff. Look at the Mi 11 Ultra vs Nokia 808 video and skip to the full res part to see what I was talking about. That phone has a larger sensor than the X200 Pro so my point could be even clearer. And if you argue that it's "a lowly samsung isocell" sensor, which might be a fair point, i'd urge you to look at the iPhone 14 Pro vs Nokia 808 video. The full res shots are subpar compared to the 808. Naturally high res sensors are just MADE to hold more information, and since the pixels are larger, they allow more information by default as well.

          Phones use software trickery to make the image seem better, like pixel binning and stuff but that's only necessary in the computational photography era of the p20-p40 pro, sensors are big enough to allow for naturally full res ones to be made.

          Anyways, on your X100 Ultra point, it's just software trickery. It's most likely using some zoom trickery that Google uses, these phones have industry leading non-native zooming capabilities. Google's telephoto non-native zoom is class leading whereas all sensors in Vivo phones have exceptional zooming capabilities. I believe what's happening is that these phones take in information from the tele cam, use AI to understand what could be proper detail or not and process based on that OR they perfectly utilize the demosaicing pipeline as you said. I think only these 2 being so great means that they were able to do all of these at the same time, properly. No ONE factor is making the image great, it's all factors combined.

          Oppo is great too, it's way too natural/not too processed so people might not consider it "good", imo Oppo's rendition is at the very least on par with vivo. Less sharpened shots allow you to zoom in further.

          And Finally, about the ISP :

          Yeah, we don't know, so im not comfortable blaming Mediatek yet haha

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            Main cam it's a win for X100U and it's clear that X100 Ultra is better there.

            Telephoto though, it seems X200 Pro might have a slight edge.

              Clearly visible that X100 Ultra have higher dynamic range and slightly better fine details than X200 Pro

                Just saw today that they are using mixed screens for the x200 pro. BOE and Visionox mixed supply so the screen quality may vary depending on which one people end up with. The earlier ones apparently will have a higher proportion of BOE with more Visionox later

                  The Android Freak, 14 hours agoIMX 921, why do you want buy that at double or triple cost ... moreIqoo 13 won't be optimized as well plus probably a rubbish 2x telephoto. I don't want to buy the x200 but would be nice to get reviews of the standard versions. Was interested in the find x8 for the flat screen but it seems a bit disappointing on paper specs anyway

                    Anonymous, 11 hours agoGet x8 ultra Going to be sold outside China. Has dual... moreWill it be sold in the UK though? I'd love to get it if so.

                      Anonymous, 11 hours agoGet x8 ultra Going to be sold outside China. Has dual... moreDo we know anything about the sensors behind the periscopes though? I'm particularly interested in the medium/3x one. I barely use the 135mm/6x, so no biggie if there are no changes on that front.

                        yungfishstick, 19 hours agoWouldn't it boil down to different processing consider... moreBased on the launch even the dimensity isp IS vivo's v3 chip built-in

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                          notafanboy, 12 hours agoFind X8 Pro has a disappointing camera setup. And I don... moreGet x8 ultra

                          Going to be sold outside China.
                          Has dual periscope again.
                          ColorOS is less garbage than Funtouch

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                            Nick Tegrataker, 17 hours agoI should've been clearer with my wording. What I meant... more" Quad Bayer sensor is capable of resolving a comparable amount of details to a regular Bayer sensor of the same pixel count provided that the output is processed by mature demosaicing algorithms to compensate for a loss in chroma resolution. The fact that X100 Ultra's 2x shots are indistinguishable from ones from a dedicated 2x 12MP telephoto camera on other phones already says a lot."

                            Not even the tech creator believes this. Same applies to all photography websites.
                            Basically, only you on Earth.

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                              notafanboy, 12 hours agoFind X8 Pro has a disappointing camera setup. And I don... moreAlso not retracting ultrawide downgrade from x6 pro to x7 ultra

                                Eduard33, 13 hours agoWhy no love for the Oppo?Find X8 Pro has a disappointing camera setup. And I don't know if the leaks are true but apparently the Ultra will use LYT-600 3x tele just like the Pro. That's not good. Straight downgrade from last year's IMX890 which was amazing for portrait photography. Vivo is just better this year. My current phone is a Find X7U, but I'll be switching to the Vivo X200 Pro. I need to test dat amazing HP9 tele lol

                                  The Android Freak, 18 hours agoLet X200 Ultra come. Let Xiaomi 15 Ultra come. Let Hono... moreWhy no love for the Oppo?

                                    Aierlan, 17 hours agoWould be great if gsmarena could review the standard versio... moreThere is no point in getting standard Honor Magic 6 when Magic 6 Pro is 650-750USD for 512GB. Get Honor Magic 6 Pro if you want to get Honor Magic 7.

                                      Aierlan, 17 hours agoWould be great if gsmarena could review the standard versio... moreIMX 921, why do you want buy that at double or triple cost of iQOO Neo 9 Pro?


                                      iQOO 13 will have same sensor and better ISP. Better buy that.

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                                        • 17 hours ago

                                        look like x200 pro apply more sharpening than x100 ultra. and i always set sharpening on Ultra to -20 all the times.