Big leak details specs for Google Tensor G5 and G6

24 October 2024
TSMc's 3nm process nodes will bring huge performance gains for the Pixel 10 and 11 series.

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  • 25 Oct 2024

Anonymous, 25 Oct 2024The Dimensity 9400 uses x4 cores and even a720 cores instea... moreDM9400 has big core as Cortex X925 which is the latest one.. X4 is secondary mid cores... While dummby google wants 2 year's old X4 as their big core. SCAM SCAM

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    • 25 Oct 2024

    SShock, 24 Oct 2024Just the fab node is not everything. Chips aren't desi... moreThe problem is that Google isn't designing any chips despite proclaiming they would before the first generation tensor chips were made. Their chips just copy the ARM or Exynos designs. Also, chips are not designed with foundries in mind, it just depends on price and whether they feel like using the cutting edge fab process or not

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      • 25 Oct 2024

      Anonymous, 25 Oct 2024Umm... ok. And you know all this from...?Because there are other chipsets with powervr gpu like d930/d7020 and we know issues from phones with them?

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        • 25 Oct 2024

        Anonymous, 25 Oct 2024PowerVR based Tensor G5 is coming with some compatibility i... moreUmm... ok. And you know all this from...?

          Google and their 2 year behind strategy for SoCs.

          Freshly released Pixel 9 series performance is less than half of SD gen4.

          Their future G6 should've been already used for pixel 9 series to be competitive.

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            • Anonymous
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            • 25 Oct 2024

            all these recent soc performance and improvement; catching up and exceeding, came after apple engineering team members joined qualcomm/ndivia/amd/samsung.

            only arm/apple left alone. (btw all above are based on arm license).

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              • Anonymous
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              • 25 Oct 2024

              PowerVR based Tensor G5 is coming with some compatibility issue for modern games.

              Warzone Mobile players gets: GPU not supported on G5
              Genshin Impact players gets: random visual glitch
              Asphalt Legends unite players gets: unsupported GPU

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                • Anonymous
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                • 25 Oct 2024

                Anonymous, 24 Oct 2024Just being based on exynos probably affected battery too. S... moreIt being based on exynos has nothing to do with anything. The use of Samsung foundry was the issue. If Exynos was fabbed on TSMC foundry it would perform better across the board

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                  • 25 Oct 2024

                  Anonymous, 24 Oct 2024exactly. Google is the most path*tic company ever. Giving y... moreThe Dimensity 9400 uses x4 cores and even a720 cores instead of a725 and nobody complains so what are you yapping about

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                    • 25 Oct 2024

                    I Just Read, 25 Oct 2024This Distraction statement look there and guess what NO SPO... more1 year, not 2 but yeah

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                      • 25 Oct 2024

                      funkyboj, 24 Oct 2024is this on Armv9 nodes or they will use the older Armv8?V8 and V9 are instruction sets not nodes. Good lord could you at least Google your question before commenting

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                        • 25 Oct 2024

                        I Just Read, 25 Oct 2024This Distraction statement look there and guess what NO SPO... moreTheir Pixel Pros are overpriced. Their Pixel A series usually comes out 8 months later at $400 cheaper. And if you use OfferUp here in America, you can get a Pixel 8a for $300 or below and they're brand new. Pixels have the worst resell value and plummets in price in the used market after a few months.

                        The price of phones using Snapdragon 8 Elite will go up if the chip itself costs $190 to use.

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 25 Oct 2024

                          This is not good. I do not want to see TSMC have a monopoly on high end semi-conductor production. Samsung needs to step up with their manufacturing processes.

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                            • 25 Oct 2024

                            The problem is inefficient modem. I hope they can get away from Samsung

                              Just my opinion, 24 Oct 2024why not just use d9400This Distraction statement look there and guess what NO SPOILER ALERT, it's just too good to spoil

                              "Google Tensor G5 (codename “laguna”), likely to be the chip in next year’s Pixel 10 series, will be manufactured on TSMC’s 3 nm-class N3E — the same exact process node Apple uses for the iPhone 16 Pro’s A18 Pro and its M4 chips."

                              Disingenuous at best
                              "Long story short, Samsung’s recent process nodes typically underperform those of its rival TSMC."...
                              "Fortunately, Google will soon rectify that mistake by dropping Samsung and designing its upcoming chips internally."****

                              It been reported in articled here that Samsung and Google didn't get along, the Tensor G3 nine core was the unique and has / had, better potential for improvement (look at what the 10 Core Exynos has done is doing for Samsung.

                              Afaik there was little or no Samsung personal involvement in the lack lustre Tensor G4 (reverting back to 8 Core) The G4 is ranked below Exynos 2400E and the 2022 D9200 & Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

                              ****Design internally
                              SoC ain't easy , fortunately Google can use the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 as a template
                              1x 3.3 GHz – Cortex-X4
                              3x 3.15 GHz – Cortex-A720
                              2x 2.96 GHz – Cortex-A720
                              2x 2.27 GHz – Cortex-A520

                              Still 2 years behind.

                              Pixels are OVERPRICED, so whilst Apple / Samsung (Qualcomm) Vivo (Mediatek) have flagship phone, Google is charging similar premium price for mid range SoC

                                It seems like a decent mid-range SoC, but the problem with Pixel phones, as always, is.. price.

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                                  • 24 Oct 2024

                                  funkyboj, 24 Oct 2024is this on Armv9 nodes or they will use the older Armv8?Using stock arm cores so Arm V9.2

                                  Meanwhile Qualcomm oryon is based on Arm V8

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                                    • 24 Oct 2024

                                    is this on Armv9 nodes or they will use the older Armv8?

                                      Anonymous, 24 Oct 2024The only thing I like in the news is them using Imagination... moreIt is a pioneer in desktop gpu. One of the first GPU manufacturers for PCs. Maybe before than nvidia.
                                      I liked their gpu either on PC or later in android mobiles, for example in motorola razr maxx.

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                                        • Anonymous
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                                        • 24 Oct 2024

                                        Pixels run fine with weaker hardware now they will run much better.