Indonesia bans sale and use of iPhone 16 series

28 October 2024
The ban is a direct result of Apple's unmet investment commitments in the country.

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  • hellothere
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  • 04 Nov 2024

Apple ask Indonesian Govt a 50 YEARS tax-free operations for them in exchange of them complying the Indonesian requirements

    there is an update guys..

    apple sending mail to Indonesian govt, they request discussion about this matter
    this indicates apple do concern and need Indonesia"s market

    however, the content about the letter or what is apple request is yet to be published
    ....maybe they willing to negotiate about taxes...from 50 years to 49 tax free...or instead, the demanding 100 years tax free in exchange for 1 small official store...

      50 year tax free requirement, that's so crazy

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        • Lemon
        • KLU
        • 02 Nov 2024

        Whatevs, 28 Oct 2024I wonder if Samsung, Xiaomi, and other manufactures met tha... moreHi

        Samsung already have Manufacturing on Indonesia, in fact Indonesia assembly appliance, Smartphone and High end TV and monitor for South east asia region

        The Factory located on Cikarang

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          • Misuba
          • tXr
          • 02 Nov 2024

          Kevin02830, 01 Nov 2024Every soul in Indonesia know that the actual reason it'... moreNot every soul. Mostly Indonesian agree about this. Just seller and distributor disagree about this. If samsung, xiaomi, huawei can do this, why apple not?

            Every soul in Indonesia know that the actual reason it's because not enough money goes to the government pocket, even after they put tax on everything

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              • andri
              • tDS
              • 01 Nov 2024

              Agus Ngamuk, 29 Oct 2024What a load of BS. I am literally Javanese but enjoys close... moreas a Javanese who lived in a small city in Pandalungan area (area that located in the easternmost part of Java), i agree with you.
              the so-called 'development of Java' are mostly Jakarta and surrounding area (West Java and northen part of Java).
              while the development in Pandalungan here are literally the same with other region outside of Java (maybe less).
              the difference is we don't complain much, we just accept it and make peace with it (or as Javanese said 'nrimo lan legowo')
              we made progress in recent years no thanks to government, but to hardworking people in Jember and Banyuwangi and surrounding area, we finally being noticed by the government in Surabaya and Jakarta.
              for example,
              do people know that there's traffic jam in main road that connecting Pandalungan area that happens almost every day?
              we asked government many times to fix it to.no avail.
              but after the JFC event became big and famous, the government finally started to fix it.
              nowadays the traffic jam is still there not as chaotic as before.
              so please stop being racist to Javanese people,
              we're in the same boat here.

              back to topic,
              when the Indonesian government made the TKDN rules in 2017.
              Apple stated that they didn't want to follow it,
              so the government tweaked the rules a bit so Apple could still sell their products in Indonesia.
              fast forward to 2024. Apple still doesn't follow all those tweaked rules yet, but has the audacity to ask tax holiday for 50 years.
              that's the reason why it was banned in Indonesia.




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                • vjr
                • 30 Oct 2024

                Silly ban

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                  • Anonymous
                  • Kxf
                  • 30 Oct 2024

                  Anti government protectionism is not mean pro apple or anti govt.
                  It's mean smart and can see through courup official 2ay to steal from people
                  The mr cupang commenting here that always talk dirty is maybe one of their keyboard warrior

                    Seran Mizorogi, 30 Oct 2024Indonesian market for premium segment is very small. Likel... moreimply for both sides, apple contribution & influence also insignificant for Indonesian govt.
                    so it's not worth much to give apple tax-free for 50years ahead

                      akubewae, 29 Oct 2024Apple just want to use Indonesia's market for free ... moreIndonesian market for premium segment is very small.
                      Likely insignificant for Apple.

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                        • Agus Ngamuk
                        • X@1
                        • 29 Oct 2024

                        Anonymous, 29 Oct 202440% local content? aha! no i know where those pesky bloat ... moreWhat a load of BS. I am literally Javanese but enjoys close to none urban development. By "Java" you probably mean Jakarta and JaBoDeTaBek, heck even if we compare my city (a Javanese city) to Palembang (a Sumatran city) then the latter is 10000% better developed. If we compare it to Makassar, Medan, Ubud, Singkawang, my city is still behind even though it's Javanese.
                        You see Palembang has LRT, the FIRST LRT in Indonesia even. By your logic then LRT can only be built in Java which is false. Even though my city is a Surakartan satellite city, public transportation is pretty much nonexistent, compare that to the cities I mentioned before.
                        Verdict: Stop being a rac!st a-hole and see the truth. Literally the biggest investment and land development in Indonesian history is in IKN, Kalimantan.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • Lfg
                          • 29 Oct 2024

                          Koishi Komeiji, 29 Oct 2024It's about my thoughts, I'm 90% not sure that i w... moreearly writed in japan minimal prices for last iphones

                          rethink: where anti-indonesian post from apple adepts and adepts lgbt+ (liberal genocide banditism transcorporation ++) as israel & modi & etc

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                            • Anonymous
                            • tDI
                            • 29 Oct 2024

                            40% local content?
                            aha! no i know where those pesky bloat on smartphone sold in indonesia coming from!
                            but yeah both samsung and sony have factor,, i mean asssembly point to "assamble" various component into finished product, which manufactured overseas. YES! even for something as easily produced as plastic body for the phone, which make the entire point of intent of those rule (using local material to make their finished product) useless!
                            the goverment of jokowi era is just tax and more tax, those tax money only ended up spent on java and literally nothing for somewhere else, to the point even the most bustling city outside of java are considered underdeveloped compared to java counterpart.
                            and im pissed as hell 😡
                            just walk out of here apple, dont give this moneyhungry 🤬 your money.

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                              • KiZ
                              • 29 Oct 2024

                              Apple not save you, Indonesia right on this decision because that.

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                                • Agus Lemon
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                                • 29 Oct 2024

                                Agus IQ78, 29 Oct 2024Does it even matter? Even if some nepo baby got big contrac... moreOh yeah Apple wanting 50 years of tax exemption is pretty insane, if it were accepted I'd probably be dead before seeing its end.

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                                  • Agus IQ78
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                                  • 29 Oct 2024

                                  Anonymous, 29 Oct 2024Corrupt official (or his family or his friend) "preten... moreDoes it even matter? Even if some nepo baby got big contract they will hire local line worker, probably thousands, they aren't doing it alone. This will spur economy with how the workers will probably buy foods from local warungs, and they will have the money to buy other things for themselves and their families, therefore boosting local economy, Apple will pay taxes which is used for compensate BPJS deficit and other public services. In an ideal world said nepo baby shouldn't exist, but in reality it exist, even corrupt civilian like PP, FPI, and tukang parkir, or simply normal civilian who stole crashed cargoes. The corrupt mindset is deeply entrenched in Indonesian society, whether it's the rich or the poor, and it's not going anywhere soon.
                                  That being said, the people who benefit from Apple actually finishing their agreement for the better or worse everyone win; Nepo baby got contract (if it were no less than a conspiracy theory), locals got jobs, Indonesia get an increase in GDP, Apple get to do business in Indonesia, no one loses, not yourself, nor me.

                                    Anonymous, 29 Oct 2024Not correct. You can use for 3 months and then have to regi... moreNope. If you are indonesian you can pay the taxes and it will whitelisted for good. The three months scheme is actually only intended for tourist (although some indonesian use it as workaround).

                                      Anonymous, 28 Oct 2024why you disagree with you own gov over an iphone ? ... that... morethe Government's corruption issue still present, even they really wants Apple to invest.

                                        Uberfish, 28 Oct 2024Not sure how those 80% make the IMEI work, unless someone i... moreIt's about my thoughts, I'm 90% not sure that i was thinking.

                                        buying iPhone from Singapore is relatively cheaper tax than other countries.

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