Samsung tipped to outsource Exynos production to TSMC

14 November 2024
The company could go the Intel way with Lunar Lake.

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Casuarius2000, 30 Nov 2024I would never want to have Qualcomm or Mediatek, those SoCs... moreYou'd think that Samsung could create the best chip for their phones even if it's one node behind. After all, as you say, they have the ability to fully integrate the hardware and software.

The fact that they haven't means that their own chips aren't yet better.

I'd expect superior battery performance on a fully integrated software/hardware. Still today, you get more of that on a snapdragon samsung.

    Casuarius2000, 30 Nov 2024I would never want to have Qualcomm or Mediatek, those SoCs... moreWell i understand your feelings but like i said and many people know exynos is weaker than said two other brands mediatek or snapdragon and have more problems with handling the heat.

      alcatraz, 27 Nov 2024Interesting. What about Apple rushing for tsmc's first... moreLast year when the Apple A17 pro Debuted on the iPhone 15 pro series, some users were reporting overheating but updates fixed most of the issues later. I guess the first generation 3 nm TSMC node still had some yield issues at the beginning but were fixed later.

      Samsung foundry in the other hand went downhill in quarantine especially, they tried to apply cost cutting strategies when producing at their fabs the newer nodes because they were experiencing shortage, the Covid Era affected everyone and Apple and Samsung weren't extend from that, that resulted in Samsung rushing quickly for mass production without caring from the transistor density and yield quality on the first production units of the SoC's, the final consumer experienced overheating and worse efficiency in some faulty units. The 5nm and the 4nm first generation Samsung nodes were affected by that, that's why you some some people complaining about its devices and other persons being happy with the same device and SoC. Buying devices manufactured on those stages were like playing the silicon lottery, you had a good yield quality soc with good thermal throttling and efficiency or you either had a worse yield quality SoC with overheating issues and stuttering because the processors frequencies were unstable due to the defects on the fabrication node.

        Cpt.Power, 25 Nov 2024Honestly in any samsung would like to have Mediatek or Snap... moreI would never want to have Qualcomm or Mediatek, those SoCs are not proprietary for Samsung. I want good software-hardware integration and no more SoC market fragmentation.

          Casuarius2000, 25 Nov 2024The problem is that Samsung decided to rush for the 5nm and... moreInteresting. What about Apple rushing for tsmc's first nodes. They seem to be allright? Or can you see issues there?

            Casuarius2000, 25 Nov 2024In Samsung I want Exynos in all models for all regions.Honestly in any samsung would like to have Mediatek or Snapdragon but no exynos.

              Anonymous, 15 Nov 2024Agreed. We need to see the Exynos full potential. BTW, ... more4 gen 2 is a low midrange..

                Anonymous, 24 Nov 2024Sad news, but happy and laugh at same time.. Expected exos... moreLMAO, have you seen the tests and benchmarks, Exynos performs better overall in Samsung devices.
                CrapQualcomm and ShittytTek still can't beat Exynos in all segments.

                  Shadow1999, 15 Nov 2024Exynos only had the issue of being fabricated by Samsung. S... moreLatest Samsung node isn't far behind TSMC, but newer nodes are still having low yield rates.
                  Samsung knows that rushing to release a node that isn't at least 80% of its capacity ready quickly isn't a good idea.

                    Cpt.Power, 15 Nov 2024I know the competition is good usually to reduce the prices... moreIn Samsung I want Exynos in all models for all regions.

                      Anonymous, 15 Nov 2024Ew... Exynos manufactured by TSMC is still Exynos, no buy.You sound you've never tried Exynos in the flagship segment before.
                      Try it.

                        space808, 15 Nov 2024Good lord.. the amount of uninformed and childish comments ... moreTrue.

                          Anonymous, 14 Nov 2024Snapdragon forever.Exynos forever

                            Anonymous, 14 Nov 2024Is the Exynos design which is basically Arm architecture fu... moreLatest Exynos flagship SoC's don't suffer from overheating like the Exynos 990.

                              Anonymous, 14 Nov 2024So what is being changed? When tsmc took over chip manufact... moreYou don't know that Exynos now is able to compete even if is manufactured by Samsung foundry.

                                GAMIR3DH, 14 Nov 2024The article says they won't change design. Is just who... moreExynos CPU/GPU design is excellent

                                  you have to suffer, 14 Nov 2024no surprise since google tenstove chips are basically scrap... moreand Exynos by Samsung is more powerful/efficient to Tensor by Google even being based on the same node and having a similar modem.
                                  Qualcomm SoCs had furnaces soc's in the past as well.

                                    you have to suffer, 14 Nov 2024no, just keep it fabricated by samsung. exystove is a hot m... moreA hot mess? 🤣
                                    Latest Exynos releases don't overheat, also the heating issues of the E9820/9825 were fixed later with the updates, like what happened with the standby drain issue of the E9820

                                      fren, 14 Nov 2024samsung should just shut down the exynos thing. if it reall... moreShutting down Samsung foundry completely is a bad decision, it will cause significant loses and the mobile division company will start to fall behind of that happens, in a few words no more Samsung smartphones in the future.

                                        alcatraz, 14 Nov 2024Fantastic news. Intel and Samsung fabs need to be compe... moreThe problem is that Samsung decided to rush for the 5nm and the 4nm first generation nodes resulting in low transistor density and low yield quality. That's why the Qualcomm 888/8 gen 1, Exynos 2100/2200 were affected in some production units.
                                        Now Samsung has learned that rushing quickly to release a new process fabrication node without being properly development is a huge mistake.

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