Samsung ISOCELL's All Lenses on Prism (ALoP) is a new and better periscope design
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Nick Tegrataker, 1 hour agoNo, it makes sense because this design would still allow th... moreOnePlus uses " U " shaped light path.
This one here is still L shaped.
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Anonymous, 3 hours agoSamsung never uses their best tech on their devices, we all... moreHP2 is most advanced isocell.
GN2 and GN1 are just large variants of JN1.
Anyway, even if you slap medium format sensor inside samsung phones, photos will still have wrong colors, bright foreground, too much NR. Samsung makes on purpose
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Anonymous, 4 hours agoExactly. This so-called "ALoP" design is being pr... moreOverall length of module is reduced.
But does not seem to reduce height .
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Anonymous, 3 hours agoSamsung never uses their best tech on their devices, we all... moreThey won't use isocell gn6 either
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waw, 3 hours agoAll I want is a 200mp 10x periscope lens, so that I could t... moreThe sensor would need to be really small, and then by that point pixel binning in this manner would not be useful.
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Nick Tegrataker, 1 hour agoNo, it makes sense because this design would still allow th... moreOr one could squeeze in higher focal length for same size module
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Anonymous, 4 hours agoExactly. This so-called "ALoP" design is being pr... moreNo, it makes sense because this design would still allow the module to have a longer distance between the entrance and the sensor than a conventional vertically-stacked lens module, while reducing the length compared to a regular periscope lens. See OnePlus 13's periscope lens that uses a similar principle - A similar spec to the one on OnePlus 12 but 33% smaller in volume.
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The best way to get rid of camera bump is increasing battery capacity and thickness of the phone.
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Samsung's article is not correct.
1. The focal length is surely not 80mm. That's surely the focal length that would produce the same diagonal field of view on a full frame camera.
2. "To make a bright (low f-number) telephoto camera, the effective pupil diameter (EPD) of the lens needs to be large."
Simply wrong. The effective diameter is focal length/ f-number, so a low focal length and low f-number wouldn't need a large effective diameter. The effective diameter needs to be large because it (and not the f-number) determines how much light per time is captured from an object (this doesn't depend on the sensor, which only measures the light) and it also determines the theoretical resolution limit of a lens regarding distant objects due to diffraction.
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People in the comments section please read this : below 👇
"Samsung isn't saying when we'll see this new tech in action but a fair guess is on the Galaxy S25 series."
please tell me WHICH SAMSUNG THIS ARTICLE IS TALKING ABOUT
Who in here actually believes SAMSUNG will use the latest tech available to them in their latest phone
NOT ME !!!! I'd rather expect them using an imx258 to reduce cost then charge 300 extra in the s25
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"f/2.58 at 80mm"
This specification is meaningless because it tells you nothing about the effective diameter because the focal length is not known. 80mm is surely not the focal length, but the field of view (field of view equivalent focal length on a full frame camera).
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Apple's periscope solution already uses the lens array in front of the prism as far as I know. Though, Apple's effective lens diameter isn't very large.
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Samsung never uses their best tech on their devices, we all know that. The GN2 was never used even if it was the best at that time and is still 2x better than what is used on the vanilla and plus s series. So yeah we hope they do
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We need more optimization and features for camera app ,and better battery life & display(dc dimming ),of course support for at least 65 watt charger too.. From sam
not a beautiful design with a smartphone that fall behind competition.
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All I want is a 200mp 10x periscope lens, so that I could take sharp images at 100x without the need for ai
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I thought this would make the cameras FLAT to the back whereas according to the provided images all it does is make the carbuNcle island narrower! WHO CARES ABUT THAT????
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Either the S28 Ultra uses this with a nice 3x lens, by which point even the Oneplus R phones would have a competent setup I believe, or Samsung will slap a disgustingly small sensor and act like it's all that's needed.
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Wonder when we'll get this on A series... Probably 2030...
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Anonymous, 4 hours agoOnly upto 80mm though, that's like 3.4x magnification,... moreExactly. This so-called "ALoP" design is being protrayed like an innovation in this article. The first thing I thought when I read the article is:
It makes no sense to put the lenses in front of the prism because the prism will be useless then. This design is the same like a normal, non-preiscope design, which allows for just 3x magnification since you have the same or even less space between the image sensor and the lenses
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Only upto 80mm though, that's like 3.4x magnification, beyond that you have to use periscope, so a compromised solution, brighter picture but less magnification