Apple iPhone SE 4 incoming even earlier than expected

21 November 2024
Insiders basically confirm the phone for March.

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DaFink, 21 Nov 2024You may be right about that, I was just saying I can see wh... moreApple's iPhone SE series is always meant to be the cheapest iPhone and the safest option based on the current availability of its technology and inventory options, which Apple has used for quite a while, to make them cheaper and affordable for those who want to try an iPhone without breaking the bank to purchase full-fledged iPhone or those who are wanted to switch from Android. If they went for something more experimental, like the iPhone mini-based design, the upcoming iPhone Air, or the most expensive option to be based on (the Pro series), it would've cost them more to produce and defeat the SE existence. iPhone mini demise proves that Apple doesn't want to risk again for SE.

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    Anonymous, 21 Nov 2024imo a lot of people will be interested in a lower priced mi... moreI think the mini failed because it was launched right in between two home button SE phones. The SE 2020 release 6 months before the 12 mini and really didn't offer much to anyone who wanted a smaller phone imo. I much preferred the home button iPhone 8 form factor of the SE vs the 12 and 13 mini form factor and I know a lot of old people that preferred the home button like their old phones they were upgrading from over gesture based navigation and face id. My grandparents are stuck on the SE 2022 and I was waiting for this one to come out to maybe upgrade them but they have said they don't want this big of a phone let alone learn how to navigate iOS in an entirely new way than what they have been using for over a decade with previous iPhones :(

      Anonymous, 21 Nov 2024You think people would buy this over 14 or 15? LmaoObviously I do, I could be wrong of course. Not sure how it is funny though, maybe your just easily amused 🤷‍♂️

        Anonymous, 21 Nov 2024imo a lot of people will be interested in a lower priced mi... moreYou may be right about that, I was just saying I can see why Apple may not have had the confidence in a mini based SE.

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          Anonymous, 21 Nov 2024This will get you a flagship soc that will last the user an... more"nobody is paying full price for an iPhone in the US"

          This is one of the reasons why apple is so famous in US.

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            JellyAcei, 21 Nov 2024tempting but.....android with that price range will get you... morebut with max 2 year OS support, not best camera (big Mp doesnt equals good quality) and questionable build quality overall :D
            but after 2 years apple se4 still get new updates, be in one whole piece and play all possible games on the market :D

            one downside for me is 60 Hz screen.

              That 499$ price is for US. This will be about 600€ in Europe, and nobody talking about crazy price difference. Not to mention that apple intelligence will probably not come to Europe as well, cause of strict Eu rules. And it shouldn't. For that money i can get far better devices.

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                The trash is coming earlier...

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                  Hope the screen won't be bigger than 5.4"...

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                    DaFink, 21 Nov 2024I would have thought the mini would have made a good base f... moreimo a lot of people will be interested in a lower priced mini. At a thousand dollars, it was bound to have low sales obviously, but a mini at half of that will sell like cakes

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                      Anonymous, 21 Nov 2024They really could have reintroduced the 12 mini form factor... moreA phone with SE (2022)/iPhone 8 dimensions but with minimal bezels would also be perfect but I know that's even less likely to happen.

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                        DaFink, 21 Nov 2024I do think this has the potential to be very disruptive to ... moreYou think people would buy this over 14 or 15? Lmao

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                          JellyAcei, 21 Nov 2024tempting but.....android with that price range will get you... moreThis will get you a flagship soc that will last the user another 4 years until the next one comes out. These SE phones are the ones that are $0-$50 at pre paid carriers when you switch to them.. nobody is paying full price for an iPhone in the US.

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                            TechDevil, 21 Nov 2024450-500 USD for this trash not having a 120hz screen. Then ... moreApple's advantage is that they have a cult. So many of their fans still willing to overpay for used iphones that have batteries barely above 80% and that replacing it would cost another $100 dollars lol.

                              499€ with 256GB isn't that bad. I know it's a "midrange" device based on display technology, camera modules...but the overall package is quite tempting for people who look for compact smartphones with decent hardware and software which will be updated for the next 6-7 years. And since it's an iPhone getting things repaired (like battery or display) won't be a hassle no matter where on earth you live.
                              Only downside as an android user would be getting used to iOS.

                                JellyAcei, 21 Nov 2024tempting but.....android with that price range will get you... more It won’t give you iOS though, which the vast majority of the time is what it all boils down to 🤷

                                  AndreiB, 21 Nov 2024True.. There's no real "Compact" phone left ... moreI would have thought the mini would have made a good base for the next SE. But the SE line itself was never about being small, that was just a result of the design that was re-used up till now, the iPhone 8.

                                  Apple obviously stung by low sales of the original mini’s, aren’t willing to risk a repeat it seems, even on a lower cost version.

                                    JellyAcei, 21 Nov 2024tempting but.....android with that price range will get you... moreNext year there will certainly be mid-range with 8 Gen 3 or a Lite version of the 8 Elite or maybe Dimensity 8400/9300

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                                      Mykl.Pluto, 21 Nov 2024It's crazy $500 used to be flagship price but now its ... moreRight.

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                                        Hanif Fikri, 21 Nov 2024Urghh make it a lil smaller 5.9inch it would be good phone ... moreTrue.. There's no real "Compact" phone left on the market. All of the "compact" options are way larger than a few years ago.

                                        I want an iPhone mini with USB-C and 256/512GB of storrage. That's all.

                                        Still hanging on to my S10e for now. (and I would go down in size if possbile).