Apple Mac mini 2024 (M4) review
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- 03 Dec 2024
AnonF-1006353, 03 Dec 2024Yeah and depending on the project, also the 16 GB RAM. Addi... moreFigured. 16 GB of unified RAM is somewhat borderline, but it should be okay in most cases. I don't see how 256 GB of storage will be enough in the long run, though. Regarding an external SSD, the prices vary. As far as I know, if you buy a high-end one, the total price can be close to $800. Personally, if I'll buy a mini PC, I'll buy an x86 mini PC with 32 GB and 1 TB of storage for under $700 and be done with it. In the future, Intel mini PCs should be competitive.
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- 03 Dec 2024
I'm a full time photographer and shoot for tens of sports and concerts every year. For someone like me, the base Mac Mini M4 is an absolute bargain and I cannot express how good this deal is.
For event shooters like me 16GB RAM is hardly an issue (I have been fine with that for the last 8 years and my editing workflow has not changed drastically), and limited internal SSD is irrelevant since I use a 1TB external SSD and 32TB RAID 4 NAS for temporary and long term storages respectively.
A few people are advertising, rather suspiciously, UM580 with 8745H in this comment section, but unfortunately without a powerful GPU (Less than half of M4 10 core GPU perf) or a dedicated NPU, all of the AI tools I use including Adobe's image upscaler and auto mask, DXO's noise reduction and Topaz' deblur/sharpener would run slooooooooow. I would be genuinely annoyed if my computer ran loudly with full on fans while struggling to process thousands of photos overnight. Did I mention this mini PC effectively would have no warranty in my country as I would have to resort to parallel import to purchase one in the first place, whereas I would have no trouble taking a Mac to an authorised service centre and have it repaired in a week?
Different people have different use cases, I know, but for the price of the cheapest Mac Mini, no Windows mini PC would ever come close to this thing for my usage. There really isn't one.
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- Anonymous
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- 03 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2024Funny people, comparing ARM base to X86 architecture. It�... morePerfect analogy. But for most people, a car is fine, which is the case here I guess. Seems like I'm someone who needs a truck though.
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- 03 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2024If you do video encoding and 3D modeling all the time, will... moreYeah and depending on the project, also the 16 GB RAM. Adding a good external SSD will get you close to $700 in total and the variant with more RAM definitely is in a territory where much beefier pc setups are possible, specially with a dedicated GPU. Which is what I'd rather go for if this were my main tasks.
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- 02 Dec 2024
Bot10, 02 Dec 2024Is the purpose of GSMArena just to show how many bad-faith ... moreLOL. Didn't you read the review? The review includes Cinebench R23.
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Bot10, 02 Dec 2024Is the purpose of GSMArena just to show how many bad-faith ... moreThey resemble different workloads because not everyone is 3d modelling day in and out. Has nothing to do with biased, if someone wants to know performance numbers for archiving or compiling tasks.
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- 02 Dec 2024
Is the purpose of GSMArena just to show how many bad-faith arguments there are on the internet? Why is Anon using Cinebench R23 and Passmark when they are either outdated or biased?
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- Anonymous
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- 02 Dec 2024
AnonF-1006353, 02 Dec 2024Yet AMD tops their multi-core charts, while Intel still top... moreIf you do video encoding and 3D modeling all the time, will the 256 GB storage be enough? It's a genuine question.
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dude111, 02 Dec 2024Why would you want graphene when it has a proper heatsink A... moreShould have said better luck next time as he is implying the crappy lined liquid coolant for 5000kg cars. That thing ain't coming to ur headset pal.
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- 02 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2024Funny people, comparing ARM base to X86 architecture. It�... moreSo do you think that people who, for example, compare the Switch and the Steam Deck funny?
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DoodleDan777, 01 Dec 2024It kinda sucks. It's Apple. I would atleast expect a g... moreWhy would you want graphene when it has a proper heatsink AND a fan?
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- 02 Dec 2024
It was very powerful machine and this is an example for featurestick portable computers
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- Anonymous
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- 02 Dec 2024
Funny people, comparing ARM base to X86 architecture. It's like normal car vs truck 🤦🏻♂️
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- 02 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 02 Dec 2024PassMark? The benchmark app that was under fire for impleme... moreAnd if we're really talking about a skewed benchmark then you probably meant UserBenchmark
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Anonymous, 02 Dec 2024PassMark? The benchmark app that was under fire for impleme... moreYet AMD tops their multi-core charts, while Intel still tops their single-core list. Doesn't look that much skewed to me, also if we take a simple 7zip benchmark into account:
https://openbenchmarking.org/test/pts/compress-7zip-1.11.0
Where Intel is still a strong contender, which is quite in line with PassMark numbers. Different instruction sets lead to different results, depending on cpu support, if they match your workload and all you do is video encoding and light 3d modelling then that's a nice $600 solution (which is probably still cross-financed with the higher tier configs). But only at that specific price point and as you can see, even the mentioned 8700G is about 20% faster than the M4 in the 7zip test. And there's a whole lot of applications like this too.
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- Anonymous
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- 02 Dec 2024
Sam.Smythe, 02 Dec 2024Then ban this misinformation spreader. Keep your website co... moreThat is not how free speech works.
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- 02 Dec 2024
xPandamon, 02 Dec 2024Why are the thermals not mentioned as a negative? These kin... moreThere is no real danger of running modern chips at or around 100˚C. Some, like the Ryzen 7000 series chips, were specifically designed to run at 95˚C. This doesn't really damage the chip in anyway. The only reason why you'd want to run it at lower temperatures is to avoid throttling or increase the efficiency but neither of those are really a concern for this chip.
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- 02 Dec 2024
Why are the thermals not mentioned as a negative? These kind of temps are not good in the long run and, yet again, are a downside to Apple computers. They care about noise but to achieve that let their chips run at unreasonably high temps.
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- Anonymous
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- 02 Dec 2024
AnonF-1006353, 02 Dec 2024Depending on benchmark, this is true.
Passmark:
8745H: 31... morePassMark? The benchmark app that was under fire for implementing an obvious anti-AMD update to skew the results towards Intel a few years ago? Surely they are credible aren't they?
Cinebench 2024 is much more demanding than R23 (6x higher computational effort for the scene) and utilises newer instruction sets. Still, the R23 could be used as a rough reference of how each CPU performs when you don't have results from the CB 2024 on hand, although the latter is clearly a better indicator for sure.
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- 02 Dec 2024
TheSnowWinterR7, 02 Dec 2024Clock that tea ⏰☕There's no tea to be clocked, specially if you don't have any technical details to add to the discussion