MediaTek Dimensity 8400 now official with all big core CPU, a first for its segment
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- JH1
- 06 Jan 2025
A special feature is the special OnePlus G2 chip, which is designed to make Wi-Fi connections more stable and faster. Now Wi-Fi 7.
Mediatek currently expects the first Wi-Fi 8 products to hit the market in late 2027.
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- pLJ
- 01 Jan 2025
This processor has a suspiciously high GPU clock speed, I hope that they will keep the TDP low without overclocking the processor, because if it's over 7W then it will be an inefficient mess 🤦🤦
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- Dk6
- 29 Dec 2024
Is Dimensity 8400 Ultra processor capable of 120fps in Bangui
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- Anonymous
- raQ
- 28 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 26 Dec 2024Isn't what armies of independant devs did with Qualcom... moreThere is only one simple, yet incisive and practical fact in the Android world:
- The MESA project
At the moment, and as far as I know, there is no other SoC manufacturer that really has the interests of the people at heart.
Reason: domination, control and blackmail (i.e., only profit).
Qualcomm, on the other hand, has repeatedly expressed its willingness to "open up to the Linux world". (therefore to the heart of the Kernel).
Something that MTK should have done a long time ago, but for reasons of interest (probably political) is not doing.
Result:
- hardware acceleration and 60fps on Snapdragon
- software acceleration (when it goes well and when you do not witness the explosion of colored vertices and black screens, which make a Mali look like a "Picasso painting") and 20fps on the rest of the world called SoC. (i.e. all those manufacturers that insist on using "gpu" made-in-Arm and an operating system that is increasingly closed from build to build).
In short: you will buy a device with that "gpu" (and with that operating system) anyway, then you will go to the subreddit of the moment, asking why it is so difficult to 'emulate a simple standard API like DirectX9c.
You will be answered more or less what I am telling you now. (while my SD device is already fully compatible in terms of hardware acceleration with DirectX12 and the latest versions of the Vulkan API).
What you should ask yourself, is why there are so many "differences" between the simplest experience of a CPU-GPU in the mainstream field and the most complex experience of a SoC in the same mainstream field.
Simple, but difficult to accept. (because the mind is good at "self-deceiving").
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- Anonymous
- vaS
- 27 Dec 2024
Kuba, 24 Dec 2024Would you really trust Xiaomi that there is no malware or b... moreIt's only a few days away from 2025 and you're still stuck with that outdated stereotype?
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- Qy}
- 26 Dec 2024
Hope it will be used in VIVO X200 ULTRA
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- Anonymous
- pfa
- 26 Dec 2024
Point2, 26 Dec 2024Specifically;
- Mali GPU kernel drivers.
If the kerne... moreIsn't what armies of independant devs did with Qualcomm's closed source ?
And tell me why TI OMAP disappeared ?
Some greedy pigs charged OEM with absurdly high CDMA/LTE licence to obliterate competition.
And do the same with VIA, LG's Nuclun, ST-Micro/Eriksson Novathor, Intel's Atom, nVidia's Tegra for smartphones...
But ? But ? It's Qualcomm...the god you freely work for.
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- Point2
- raQ
- 26 Dec 2024
Specifically;
- Mali GPU kernel drivers.
If the kernel is closed, I don't need the Vulkan code at all.
Simply because I don't have access to the underlying hardware documentation.
In summary, I cannot work with Vulkan code because the GPU side Kernel is armored.
So there are only TWO solutions;
- Wait for the release of the Kernel code and related documentation of the operating schemas of the GPU hardware registers.
- Retro-engineering with hardware and software debugging, which will take me a long, long time.
In both cases, a lot of time will be spent and WILL PASS (because I will not have immediate access to the required documentation). Meanwhile, new (closed-code) architectures will come along, as in the case of "Immortalis," and everything will go back to the initial chaos.
This is NOT the OpenSource mentality;
- It is the mentality of the Greedy Pig!
OMAP-Texas Instruments, to cite an example, was Opensource even in hardware documentation. (Released along with the software and Kernel drivers documetale).
Now you can explain to yourself why Mali drivers suck for anything beyond OpenGL-ES.
Even the Adreno (Qualcomm) drivers, on the other hand, have their own OpenSource versions.
It is a subtle and ABYSSAL difference that passes between an ARM and a Qualcomm (Where they are not greedy pigs).
For example.
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- raQ
- 26 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 26 Dec 2024A lot of confusions
Arm can't release what they want.... more"Dude," here we are not talking about the code of an Android and a Google.
ARM is not OpenSource.
Crystal Clear?
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- Anonymous
- pfa
- 26 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2024They are just thoughtless choices from my point of view.
... moreA lot of confusions
Arm can't release what they want...
They can release Android Kernel and they did :
https://developer.arm.com/downloads/-/mali-drivers/valhall-kernel
They can release Linux drivers and they did :
https://developer.arm.com/downloads/-/mali-drivers/display-drivers
They can release Vulkan drivers for windows and they did even if there's not devices with Mali that run windows :
https://developer.arm.com/downloads/-/mali-drivers/vulkan-wsi-layer
Arm can do that because, Android, Linux and Vulkan are open source.
If you ask sources for Direct3D and consoles, Arm can't legaly provide you...Direct3D is Microsoft Property, Consoles API are Nintendo/Sony or Microsoft properties.
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- Anonymous
- raQ
- 25 Dec 2024
NGC2841, 25 Dec 2024Nvidia and Mediatek have been collaborating for a GPU since... moreThey are just thoughtless choices from my point of view.
1. Mali GPU
2. Nvidia-GPU
Both closed-code.
The Big problem with Mali is the closed-code drivers.
The same Big Problem, most likely will be the Nvidia's.
Vivante, I believe is still one of the few (if not the 'only one), which can create GPUs of the same quality and efficiency as Adreno.
Huawei Honor 2, at the time had GC4000, (Huawei K3V2) the most powerful GPU, outperformed even an Adreno, also that I remember, had open code, OpenSource. (Etnaviv)
Its drivers, were also compatible with Nvidia's proprietary technologies, PowerVr (from which technology it was inspired) and Adreno.
Most Tegra games, in fact, I used to play on that device.
Then abandoned because of that Mali gpu indecency.
Here, however, MTK, I think takes another "leap of faith," undermining itself from one "slaver" and relying on another "slaver."
What I don't fully understand though, is that Vivante IP is "a neighbor."
Nvidia, on par with an ARM, is "overseas."
PostScriptum: - I hope at least it is the MX570, because the MX550, as far as I have been able to ascertain, is something indecent performance-wise. (It doesn't even reach an old Vega-8 integrated, let alone a GTX1650)
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- Anonymous
- txG
- 25 Dec 2024
NGC2841, 25 Dec 2024im using PocoX6pro and seeing this..the upgrade was so horr... moreThere is one, it's arena breakout.
- NGC2841
- Rk2
- 25 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 25 Dec 2024From my point of view ARM-Mali may even have 1000 cores, th... moreNvidia and Mediatek have been collaborating for a GPU since 2020 based on the low power MX5xx gpu,,the development was rather slow and kept going delaying for years but hey i rather take those delays so Mediatek can perfect the development because when Samsung rushed the Exynos chip with an AMD GPU in 2021 it flop so hard
- NGC2841
- Rk2
- 25 Dec 2024
im using PocoX6pro and seeing this..the upgrade was so horrendously too much but as i am tight at budget and why do i ever want much powerful for ray tracing if theres literally ZERO games in Playstore that has Ray tracing support currently im gonna rather wait for another year
- you have to suffer
- Ki@
- 25 Dec 2024
1989, 24 Dec 2024Flagship is the top chip of the year. Not something worse t... moreshould have called it high end instead of "flagship midrange" cuz it does not make sense to call it that
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- Anonymous
- raQ
- 25 Dec 2024
yjfoeg, 24 Dec 2024Mali and Immortalis are the same thing. Mali = 1~9 core, Im... moreFrom my point of view ARM-Mali may even have 1000 cores, this does NOT change the concrete fact, that such GPU technology, is not yet mature for more general use.
In fact, with this type of gpu, you still have several gaps outside the 'playstore ecosystem.
For my part, and to make it short and concrete, I can play an Enslaved: Odyssey (Bandai-Namco), that is;
- the most beautiful WuKong Myth (The Monkey King) I've ever played on PC (and it's not even "black"!), now I play it again on a smartphone, capable of running it at 720p, Hig Settings and 60fps with fluency.
So, the Mali problem remains (despite the power and 'efficiency of MTK cores) and will remain, until MTK decides to replace it with other IP ?(Vivante Corporation:VeriSilicon Holdings Co., Ltd., for example?)
Imho.
- you have to suffer
- Kiv
- 25 Dec 2024
Anonymous, 24 Dec 2024T series are not good but there's poco and note and k ... morebecause motorola would have known that no one buy their flagship phones. hence they won't be producing flagships. their focus is on a budget and mid range model. it's like infinix but more software updates
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- Anonymous
- uBS
- 24 Dec 2024
jiyen235, 24 Dec 2024the Xiaomi T series is horrible because they come out late ... moreT series are not good but there's poco and note and k series that are good.
Motorola didn't even have a flagship phone this year. They are really bad.
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- Anonymous
- pfa
- 24 Dec 2024
you have to suffer, 24 Dec 2024what's the difference vro 😭🙏Number of cores AND additionnal ray-tracing unit
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- yjfoeg
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- 24 Dec 2024
Forsaken, 24 Dec 2024Mali gpu not immortalis s🫠Mali and Immortalis are the same thing. Mali = 1~9 core, Immortalis >= 10 core.
But it's G720, not G725 though. MTK still has something in its pocket.