Kuo: Apple M5 Pro, Max and Ultra chips will offer server-grade performance

24 December 2024
The M5 chip is expected to enter mass production in H1 2025.

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DeepIn2U, 24 Dec 2024Please keep this jojer away from any server room or devisio... moreThere really isnt much silicon difference between server chips and consumer chips. Most of the reliability comes from power margins and binning.

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    DroidBoye, 24 Dec 2024IDK why people are arguing about server performance and com... moreSoic-mh comes free with the node upgrade. Nothing about it makes it exclusively "server grade".

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      Anonymous, 24 Dec 2024x86 has been more or less unchanged in two decades, with th... moreYes, this is correct, intel effectively wants to bring back itanium. However(and it's a pretty big however) the vast majority of things you run are 32 bit, even to this day. Its why X elite processors suck so bad in real world usage, even though their 64bit translation layer is pretty okay (theyre about as powerful as a core 2 duo when running 32bit, so youre hogging massive amounts of power). I dont think 86-64 is anywhere near dead, but arm sure looks nice.

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        Anonymous, 24 Dec 2024I loved M1 but they did nothing since and now the competiti... more??? Intel is a dead company. They have lost the crown. Intel is like a sinking ship. Just like the Titanic. Intel failed their foundry. AMD performes better than Intel. Even American government is supporting Intel financially.

          Most likely getting targeted for the Vision Pro futuristic gesture control and other AI integrated features but not going to be of any use in the normal consumer devices such as iPad, MacBook, iPhone. The performance gain is also not major and this trend may follow soon in every iteration since the size of the SoC reaching its minimum threshold and reducing the size further will only make the number of transistors to stagnate. To distract the buyers, Apple may try to show case few useless approaches which may not mean much for the most.

            DroidBoye, 24 Dec 2024IDK why people are arguing about server performance and com... moreWhen I think of "server grade," I think of a chip that can connect to a minimum of 256 GB fast RAM, has fast concurrent I/O, and supports virtual machines efficiently.

            Apple might hit those specs, but will anyone buy? Apple can make fast chips but they're terrible at designing high-end workstations.

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              gain just 5% or did I missed something here?

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                Anonymous, 24 Dec 2024I loved M1 but they did nothing since and now the competiti... morethat's not true either

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                  Fulljack, 24 Dec 2024please don't spread misinformation if you didn't ... moreit's true do the job

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                    I loved M1 but they did nothing since and now the competition is catching up.

                      don waltz, 24 Dec 2024Apple should put M series chip in their iPhones tooWhy? There is already nothing that pushes the current iPhone.

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                        Fulljack, 24 Dec 2024please don't spread misinformation if you didn't ... morex86 has been more or less unchanged in two decades, with the last major update being AMD's 64-bit extension. However, Intel has been floating the idea of cutting all the non-64-bit stuff in x86 to create the tentatively named x86S architecture. This would theoretically result in better performance and efficiency, and although not having 32-bit support was a bad idea back in 2003, these days pretty much all hardware is 64-bit.

                          kl, 24 Dec 2024nothing has happened for x86 in the last 5 years, they'... moreplease don't spread misinformation if you didn't know much about computing history, thanks.

                            IDK why people are arguing about server performance and comparison to a server x86 processor when the article only talks about the "server-grade" as it relates to the design structure which is the SoIC-mH, other than that, the M5 is not a server-grade chip and will never be as performant as an actual server-grade x86-AMD64 chips released at the same year.

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                              WhoCaresTM, 24 Dec 2024And still zero apps and games to run.yeah guess whose fault that is

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                                AnonD-1184920, 24 Dec 2024Mchip So sad its too bad, wen M1 lunched they said it ll bl... moreyap yap

                                  Anonymous, 24 Dec 2024Words that mean nothing. Cool! All chips since 1982 are se... morePlease keep this jojer away from any server room or devision process affecting any server room!!!


                                  You clearly have no idea what you're talking about! Nor have you worked in a server room or on a server!!

                                  Servers are not just possessing as bare metal like 1990/1982 and haven't for a long while.

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                                    don waltz, 24 Dec 2024Apple should put M series chip in their iPhones toolol. iPhones are already more powerful than they need to be.

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                                      xPandamon, 24 Dec 2024Understand what? X86 can be just as fast and efficient as A... morenothing has happened for x86 in the last 5 years, they've been trying since forever, a design from the mid-70s with all that it entails

                                        dk, 24 Dec 2024do intel and amd a favor don't buy any more x86, they ... moreUnderstand what? X86 can be just as fast and efficient as ARM. Also, their chips are meant for modular PCs, which would result in ARM performing just as "bad".

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