Indonesia won’t lift iPhone 16 ban unless Apple starts manufacturing iPhone components locally

09 January 2025
Apple previously committed to a $1 billion investment, but that was still insufficient for the Indonesian authorities.

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Cr7 Is The Goat, 08 Jan 2025Buying directly from apple is more expensive then to buy fr... moreNo Amazon here, and importing from a different country amazon store makes the iphones around 300 euro more expensive than apple store price here.

Local electronic stores are the cheapest by far, around 100 euro less than apple store.

HOWEVER that was not what my original comment was about...

    you have to suffer, 09 Jan 2025samsung parts are still made in vietnam and south korea. wh... moreAt least they're set up assembly plant in the country and create job not like apple who only want profits.

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      • 09 Jan 2025

      Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025Indonesia is home to nearly 300 million people, it's a... moreLots of people, but let’s be honest, those 300 million people don’t have the purchasing power of some countries with even one fifth their population.

      Population isn’t everything. Population does not equal market size.

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        • 09 Jan 2025

        Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025You cant connect smuggled device to 4G network in indonesia... moreNo matter the security in Indonesia is very weak and cheap. As a foreigner, you can ask for the services of a local person who understands how to register IMEI on a foreign phone, They will go Go to the IMEI registration service office for a price of Rp800k-1 million per cellphone. And you can also go to a fake IMEI repairman for cheaper, by attaching the IMEI from the iPhone 11

          ayeayehuhah, 08 Jan 2025Nah, Samsung devices in Indonesia are all locally built.samsung parts are still made in vietnam and south korea. while they are being assembled in indonesia.

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            • 08 Jan 2025

            Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025Look at China, they have gone from poor country to one of t... moreChina requires companies to partner with a local Chinese company and then transfer technology to it. This is how they go where they are. Some level of protectionism is the norm worldwide, unless you have zero leverage (poorer counties come to mind).

              Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025People really care about such stores? In my country appl... moreBuying directly from apple is more expensive then to buy from Amazon where it is cheaper

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                • 08 Jan 2025

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                  • 08 Jan 2025

                  kek, 08 Jan 2025I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more to lose from this l... more- Unfortunately, no, as most Indonesians use Android phones, although some use older iPhone models.

                  - As of now iPhones are a status symbol and have been categorized as luxury goods/items with additional taxes and import duties; thus, resellers are selling Apple products at a premium (including a thick margin).

                  - These resellers are well-connected with past government officials and are benefiting Apple's lack of official presence in the country. It would be beneficial for customers to have more accessible and services through an official presence.

                  - From Apple's standpoint:
                  a. This might not be in their best interest the unknown demand for Apple products (not just iPhones) in Indonesia.
                  b. Global demand has also waned in the face of an inflationary economy with high living costs everywhere. It is a high-risk move to make a major, capital-intensive manufacturing investment.
                  c. Lastly, the manufacturer is Foxconn, not Apple. Apple and Foxconn chose Vietnam and India due to their closer proximity to China (and land-based logistics). The high cost of logistics in Indonesia might not be in Foxconn's best interest. Additionally, minimum wages and the low capability and capacity of the resources are a major risk.

                  - From the Indonesian government's standpoint, they need additional revenue to fund their expansionary government programs. Although it is good to stand their ground let's hope that if the investment is fruitful, it's the country that benefits the most, not just some groups/government executives.

                    Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025Samsung phones are from Vietnam. Nah, Samsung devices in Indonesia are all locally built.

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                      • 08 Jan 2025

                      kek, 08 Jan 2025I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more to lose from this l... moreLook at China, they have gone from poor country to one of the richest countries because they're the global manufacturing hub. Pretty sure, Indonesia wants to copy China.

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                        • 08 Jan 2025

                        xfrqnx, 08 Jan 2025yes, all of themSamsung phones are from Vietnam.

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                          • 08 Jan 2025

                          Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025Why? Apple doesnt have a single apple store in indonesia W... morePeople really care about such stores?

                          In my country apple is the only one with multiple stores, samsung or xiaomi just sell their stuff via regular phone or electronic appliances stores.

                          And yet most people buy android phones here

                          Asia is really weird...

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                            • 08 Jan 2025

                            kek, 08 Jan 2025I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more to lose from this l... moreWhy? Apple doesnt have a single apple store in indonesia
                            Why should indonesian care for such a greedy company?

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                              • 08 Jan 2025

                              Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025Smuggling seems really lucrative right nowYou cant connect smuggled device to 4G network in indonesia
                              As it is needs registered IMEI to connect to 4G network

                              Samsung, xiaomi, oppo and vivo already has a factory. Even transsion group (itel, infinix) has factory, but apple doesnt have a single apple store in indonesia.
                              Irony of a multi billion dollar company

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                                • 08 Jan 2025

                                Finally Apple bribe didn't work love to see it 😂😂

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                                  • 08 Jan 2025

                                  kek, 08 Jan 2025I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more to lose from this l... moreIndonesia is home to nearly 300 million people, it's a massive market to miss out on. This law bring jobs and investment into the country, it's only a good thing.

                                  Apple isnt your friend, bend them over for as much as you can, don't just let them take advantage of your market.

                                  Keep it up Indonesia!

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                                    • 08 Jan 2025

                                    Regulators and governments always find something to complain about.

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                                      • 08 Jan 2025

                                      I'm pretty sure Indonesia has more to lose from this law in the long term. Apple should just leave tbh.

                                        Anonymous, 08 Jan 2025So all the other brands, Xiaomi, Samsung, Motorola, Oppo an... moreXiaomi alone has invested a total of 1.67 billion USD in Indonesia in 23-24. Highest investor of any competitor to date.