S Pen in Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra to lose Bluetooth functionality
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Anonymous, 11 hours agoI really hope this isn't true I was really looking fo... moreI am in the same boat and I totally agree.
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This is a huge disappointment for me. I use the stylus for photos all the time on my Note 20 Ultra. The s25 Ultra was going to be my new upgrade and that was a main selling point. Will wait until the unpacked session for confirmation, but if confirmed then it looks like I will be going for the S24 Ultra 😔
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brsdrgn, 6 hours agoIt's so clear that you didn't understand my point... moreWell, consumers believed this same company that took out the jack so they could add 400mah to the battery. Except that 400mah gets wasted by the Bluetooth needed to run wireless buds.
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fren, 6 hours agome too. the only AI feature I use is circle to search among... moreI don't even use that much because I'm forced to use Google with it and I hate Google and I haven't used it for like 10 years now. I have Google app disabled and I need to re-enable it in order for circle to search to work which is just stupid, so I don't even use that in the end even though idea is cool.
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I'm sure, this decision is made after investigeting pen usage statistics, collected from all ultra devices. No decision would be made in the blind. Food for your thought.
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Using the stylus as a remote shutter is the only thing out of these I've used with my note, but even if they're rarely used they're nice to have. I guess soon(as in 2 years or something) they'll remove the spen entirely from the body and the note will be dead not just in name but in actuality too.
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AnonD-1185368, 11 hours agoSamsung doesn't know what to innovate anymore, so they... morenot shuffling but removing and keeping crazy price phone or more expensvie,,
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They should really make two options of the phone. Having an S pen is useful but you're also losing out on a ton of space for battery and cooling
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fren, 6 hours agolooks like samsung is desperately trying to cut cost - rumo... moreThe M14 screen doesn't have the superior antiglare of the S24U. AMOLED version numbers aren't linear improvements. So, obviously the S25U will improve on the S24U display, instead of downgrading to what they sell to Apple and China.
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looks like samsung is desperately trying to cut cost - rumored M13 revised screen instead of M14 screen & now even a bluetooth feature is taken away. wonder what else will be cut off
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SShock, 9 hours agoAll the Ai features on my S23 Ultra are entirely worthless ... moreme too. the only AI feature I use is circle to search among so many AI features. the rest try once & never use again
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Anonymous, 7 hours agoHow will it work then?The stylus itself can work without wireless, there are various methods on how certain touch displays work with stylus. There are active styluses that may use speciallized tech to add additional features like tilt, pressure and hover detection some displays have embedded sensors so the stylus can be thinner and then there are passive/capacitive styluses that work essentially the same way your finger touch is recognised, by tiny electric disturbances on the touch digitizer. I don't remember the exact protocol Samsung uses but TLDR a stylus does not necessarily need electric components to work, you can buy cheap capacitive styluses online for maybe $4-5 or even less if you're in China that look like a rubber/silicone dome at the end of a pen. But not all displays work with then, especially those that have specific stylus input like iPads. I have one and it work on my Android but doesn't work on an iPhone, not exactly sure why but iPhones don't even work with Apple pencil as those are active styluses and iPhones don't have the same digitizer as iPads.
Anyway, it's just that wireless features won't work anymore like remote shutter and such. Stylus itself will do basic function.
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walkman8, 7 hours agoIt's not cost cutting in this instance, it's just... moreIt's so clear that you didn't understand my point :)
Why are you diverting the your main point to somewhere else like the specs of the phone comparing to the others'?
Did you read my another reply right above the reply I've given you?
Your point was the space that pen takes. I wrote you that ultra series is larger on the width. If you put the phone next to another brand's flagship with the same height, you can clearly see the display is wider. That justifies the space of that pen.
If they were both same with the width then your argument would correct that removing pen will give extra space.
It's so clear that little size is ENORMOUS. When brands are doing sandwich styled MBs to squeeze things inside the phone, of course it's important. But again. They don't try to squeeze the pen into the same sized phone.
I can even easily disprove you by putting s24 ultra model next to s24+ :)
Here I took dimensions from Gsmarena search engine.
If they remove that pen, they'll just make the phone narrower. Are you really that naive to think that they'll fill that space with a new feature? :D
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Adding in Snapdragon Sound, a feature of the Qualcomm chipset, would be a good move. Sadly, about as likely as reintroducing a micro SD card slot or a headphone jack.
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Let's hope Bluetooth is being replaced with UWB. Otherwise this is prime pay more for less deal.
Sucks to be loyal Samsung fan. Never owned a Samsung device so I probably will never miss these features but feel bad for those who do.
Great reminder, judge the product, not the brand. They will never return or reciprocate your feelings.
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- 7 hours ago
There's no guarantee that this is true until Samsung actually announces the phone. Plus how reliable is this leaker?
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How will it work then?
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You'd think that such flagship phones would be packed with headphone jack with high end DAC, support all the BT codecs including latest HiDef ones, IR blaster, have pencil with BT to have all the options and keep on adding new ones every year. Instead only thing they add every year is extra cost and they keep taking away the features. Its idiotic.
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brsdrgn, 8 hours agoThe pen doesn't take any place from those components y... moreIt's not cost cutting in this instance, it's just pure physics.
The area you've mentioned is ENORMOUS for smartphone dimensions.
Whether you like to admit yourself that or not, but Note and S Ultra have always been one step behind their Android flagship competitors solely due to storing the s pen.
For instance, Note 20 Ultra was slumming with 4500 mAh at the time when Androids had 5000 mah as standard. 60 w+ wired charging was also normal (vs. meager 25 w with Note). Not to mention inferior speakers, haptics and vibration. All important phone components.
S25 Ultra will have 5000 mAh battery, almost 5 y.o. camera hardware when competitors offer 5500-6000 mAh batteries with 60+ wired AND wireless charging, larger vapor chamber surface, superior haptics, vibration and camera sensors.
All these components require space.
R&D in smartphones have been sleeping for years, everything's put to halt except for chip development and AI.