Honor Magic7 RSR Porsche Design hands-on

15 January 2025
Our first impressions of Honor's all-out flagship.

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OneBraincelledWunkus, 24 Jan 2025lol defensive? that was more like a tangent than anything a... moresorry man i dont have the "through text emotion-understandinator" installed.

    jiyen235, 17 Jan 2025No, look at the review, the Magic7 Pro's lens is 69mm ... morelol defensive? that was more like a tangent than anything about long zooms on phones. totally besides the point...

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      • JH0
      • 20 Jan 2025

      Nick Tegrataker, 19 Jan 2025"We’re working with the same triple camera setup as th... moreIt's noticeably larger. The Vivo X100 Ultra has 8.42mm and this periscope camera has an effective diameter of allegedly 9.9mm. We need to see the exif data. No smartphone camera on the market had ever such a large effective diameter.

      But the resolution might be compromised due to the Tetra²pixel array, possibly 2x2 OCL array and due to analog binning (for example it seems that the Honor Magic6 Pro always used at least 4-1 binning), so in the end the 200 megapixel sensor may behave more like a 50 megapixel Quad Bayer sensor.

        Nick Tegrataker, 19 Jan 2025Magic7 Pro's telephoto lens has a 60mm field of view n... moreidk what samples you saw but every 6x pic at night shown in the magic7 pro gsmarena review looks at best mid to me and bad at some occasions, sometimes it reminds me of Samsung's processing.

        I don't really care about focal length difference, what i care about is the quality at the native focal length, i'd go so far as to say even the Oppo Find X8 Pro is better than the Honor's "native" focal length shot. Besides, show me some native focal length shots from the Honor, I'm curious. It's Honor's fault for putting 3x when it's like 2.5x, im judging it based on what they want consumers to experience and exactly how it's marketed. It's not unfair to judge Honor based on its 3x shots.

        "I don't think Honor's image processing isn't bad, either."

        im guessing you were trying to say YOU THINK Honor's processing isn't bad instead of YOU DONT'T THINK Honor's processing was bad, if that's the case then well i don't think i can change your mind. I personally am NOT a fan of sharpening at all but im not a fan of artefacts either. In my opinion, Vivo produces pre-processing artefact free photos but full of post processing artefacts like detail enhancement for example and Honor has BOTH pre-processing AND post processing artefacts. For example, take a look at the last photo of the night time 6x shot of the Honor Magic7 Pro, the one with the traffic light to the right. Compare the 3x and the 6x, the 3x looks more natural and has less artefacts yet the 6x is just filled with this hideous green color noise/artefact.

        Obviously I was exaggerating when i said the Vivo 10x is better than the Honor 6x but only a little bit, I think Honor's artefacts are far more hideous and make the images less usable than Vivo. Additionally you can just turn down the sharpening in the settings, Vivo has a sharpness slider and it works wonders, won't make photos 100% natural but will make em far more natural than the current processing pipeline's outputs.

        Essentially I think Vivo's outputs are already more usable than Honor's outputs, even at higher crop factors (based on official numbers at least), and it can be improved further AND it looks far nicer in the native focal length which imo is due to the processing and also, due to it being the ACTUAL native focal length on the camera app. It's not my job to sit down and scroll to 2.5x each time i want to take a telephoto shots, that's tedious, im just gonna click on the 3x when i need to snap a photo and be done with it. If the outputs were mindblowing then perhaps i'd have gone through with it but the outputs aren't industry leading either. So I don't really understand why i'd want to go through this painful process either. If it were a 1/2.51" sensor, sure, i'd blame the hardware. But Honor's using the industry's finest telephoto sensor.

        Finally, I love the 2-3x focal length, I think it's the most flexible as you said but at the end of the day im gonna use the native focal length of the camera to maximize the potential of the output, so im just gonna take 5 steps back or take only half body portrait shots or any other permutation required to get the BEST shot i can with whatever i have. Yeah the 2-3x focal length is lovely but im not gonna sacrifice on overall telephoto quality/zoom quality and range just cus i love one focal length that another phone can pull off equally well.

        I think the Oppo Find X8 Pro is a more competent camera phone than the Magic7 Pro and the Vivo X200 Pro is an even more competent one, apart from selfies, the ones on the Magic7 Pro are stunning and the current benchmark i'd say for the whole industry considering the wide focal length, the Pixel's nice and all but i've seen some truly terrifying skintones and the basic quality isn't better than Honor imo, could be down to the far wider selfie cam but still... idk man i just love the Honor's selfie samples lol. Anyways, the main cam on the Find X8 Pro is obviously inferior but it's just overall so well balanced it pulls ahead imo. I tend to take shots with a healthy combination of all the lenses, so i prefer a strong lens selection, unless a lens or two are so good in a phone that i can ignore the shortcomings.

        The only reason to go for the Magic7 Pro in terms of the cameras i'd say is if you prefer the Honor's artefacts to the Vivo/Oppo's ones and you NEED a 2.5x cam. Otherwise it's just inferior as a cameraphone, apart from the main cam, again.

          "We’re working with the same triple camera setup as the Magic7 Pro but with a larger f/1.9 aperture on the 200MP 3x periscope zoom camera"

          That's an insanely large aperture lens for a periscope lens, just as big as the one Vivo judging from its diameter. I'm impressed.

            jiyen235, 17 Jan 2025No, look at the review, the Magic7 Pro's lens is 69mm ... moreMagic7 Pro's telephoto lens has a 60mm field of view natively, whereas the one on X100 Ultra has 85mm - The latter can utilise twice as many pixels as the former to render the same field of view, so it's pretty obvious that the former is in a disadvantage when it comes to long-distance digital zoom.

            I don't think Honor's image processing isn't bad, either. In fact, I would even say Honor's 6x shots are slightly better in terms of IQ than Vivo's 10x shots as the latter has a more noticeable oversharpening and watercolour effect, although the direct comparison would be a bit difficult due to a difference in their telephoto cameras' native field of view.

            On the other hand, if you use a lot of mid-telephoto range (60-84mm equivalent in this case), obviously Magic7 Pro would be a better choice. I think a 60mm field of view is a lot more flexible than 85mm, but that's just my personal opinion.

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              • Anonymous
              • Tiu
              • 19 Jan 2025

              How about the features of Magic 7 Pro like 200mp periscope, omnidirectional main camera, big amplitude stereo speaker, satellite call and text.. Is it also featured on RSR?

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                • pmH
                • 18 Jan 2025

                S25+ for the price of Fold SE

                  OneBraincelledWunkus, 17 Jan 2025Oh, oops. Well you mean when zoomed in/cropped right? Well ... moreNo, look at the review, the Magic7 Pro's lens is 69mm natively and they use some sort of cropping and then upscaling to hit the "3x" tag. And then the 2x crop of the telephoto, in other words the 6x shots, look as bad as the x200 pro's 10x shots to me, if not worse. I don't think Honor can competently process this sensor's shots at all.

                  I don't understand why you're being defensive and telling me to get a dslr when i was just pointing out the fact that the Honor is doing bad for the sensor it has and for the amount of money it's asking. The X200 Pro already exists on the global market and gives you far superior zoomed shots. My point wasn't that phones are bad at zooming so all cameras suck, my point was that the Honor sucks.

                  Judging by the way gsmarena typed its review, it seems the lens is still 2.5x and they're just upscaling to 3x. A very bad attempt at upscaling and i'd say this is just blatant false advertising. AT least the Find X6 Pro listed itself as 2.8x, the Magic7 Pro is just lying on the spec page.

                  THAT is what i was referring to when i meant upscaled nonsense, they're stretching a 2.5x photo to 3x and that just doesn't look great. The Magic7 Pro's telephoto is only "good" but a 200MP 1/1.4" sensor shouldn't be "just" good, it should be excellent, if not exceptional. So the RSR version having a better hardware won't matter much when the software is going to nuke the end result. I hope i was able to clarify my point in a sufficient manner.

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                    • 17 Jan 2025

                    The Android Freak, 17 Jan 2025Oppo Find X8 Ultra and Xiaomi 15 Ultra will be the only one... more
                    Damn good camera phones indeed, and I'd add the Vivo X200 Ultra (yet to be announced IIRC, but likely to appear) to complete that shortlist of "the Big Three". But following the news and rumours here only the Xiaomi is likely to be released internationally, whereas the Oppo and Vivo will remain China only.

                      jiyen235, 17 Jan 2025BRO i was talking about the JN5 with that guy. Besides, ... moreOh, oops. Well you mean when zoomed in/cropped right? Well yeah, it's just another gimmick you can have, if you actually cared so much and want good images at range you'd spend your money on a 600mm lens and a crop camera to get a ~950-1000mm equivalent focal length or even better a micro four thrids camera to get a 2x crop, 1200mm equivalent.

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                        • 17 Jan 2025

                        I have never seen phone manufactures get enough rest in the last decade. They seems turning it as a hobby. We can notice how many new phones have been produced in a month with different design, hardware configuration and OS. Now Honor realeases Porsche Design smartphone with Hexagon rear camera housing which is unique and more feminim. I haven't seen it's predecessor design. More or less should not be far from Pentagon camera housing :)

                          Is this phone available in Dubai? I haven't found on Amazon.

                            OneBraincelledWunkus, 17 Jan 2025Hard disagree. The periscope on this is almost a stop faste... moreBRO i was talking about the JN5 with that guy.

                            Besides, the periscope is better, yeah, but it's still gonna be outputting upscaled nonsense.

                              jiyen235, 17 Jan 2025i wouldn't call em significant, yeah on a technical le... moreHard disagree. The periscope on this is almost a stop faster, that's the complete opposite of being a minor upgrade in practice, but I'm guessing you don't know what that means. It let's in almost twice as much light than the one on the pro. That's a big improvement. Still though this one is way too expensive.

                                I AM AMAZING, 17 Jan 2025There are significant differences; although, not easily not... morei wouldn't call em significant, yeah on a technical level they might be hugely different but in practice it's only a minor upgrade. Mighty impressive considering the fact that they're the same sized sensor but not really that impressive in the grand scheme of things imo.

                                  jiyen235, 16 Jan 2025meh i think the differences between the JN1 and JN5 aren�... moreThere are significant differences; although, not easily noticeable when you look at the specs.
                                  D-VTG is one major one. Also, a new in-sensor processing mechanism is another.

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                                    • Sujoy Bera
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                                    • 17 Jan 2025

                                    Ugly back design

                                      WhyWhyWhyWhyWhyWhy, 17 Jan 2025OK you tell me which phone does 24GB RAM + 1TB storage, SD8... moreOppo Find X8 Ultra and Xiaomi 15 Ultra will be the only ones I believe.

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                                        • 17 Jan 2025

                                        xPandamon, 16 Jan 2025At this point Porsche Design is just a name. What even look... moreOK you tell me which phone does 24GB RAM + 1TB storage, SD8 Elite SoC, still decently sized battery, and a maybe-not-top-tier-but-still-very-nice cameras system, and is accessible in our markets. Go on, I'm listening....

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