Samsung Galaxy XCover7 Pro in the works with surprising chipset

16 January 2025
A supplier switch is coming, apparently.

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  • Anonymous
  • p$d
  • 10 Feb 2025

It this phone is real it is more exciting than Any S25, iphone or foldable coming out this year. Just please give it OLED.

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    • Anonymous
    • Mfs
    • 20 Jan 2025

    Zakalwe, 19 Jan 2025Average phones are used much more gently in that regards, a... more I've never personally been in an Uber (terrible company I refuse to support) but some taxis I used last year used iPhone 12s as the fare meter, so would be a similar use case. No image retention on those.

    Also, at the place I work all our devices are locked on auto brightness and go into sleep mode after 1 minute. We don't have forklifts so it might be different there, but I can't imagine they'd want to waste that much energy.

      Xcover 7 was not a rugged phone by any means

        tsx, 20 Jan 2025Yea, good luck running that 4000mAh phone for 16 hours per ... more16 hours is no problem for a phone mounted in a vehicle. The XCover7 from last year even has a no-battery mode where you remove the battery and run it only on external power, specifically intended for such more permanent installations.

        No, you cannot compare manufacturers with established global support networks, like Samsung, to Chinese internet brands like Doogee or Blackview. No-one who needs a reliable fleet of rugged phones is going to click through their typo-ridden online stores and order from China. The nationality alone is already a problem in sensitive areas, but these companies also cannot or do not provide adequate support. Most of their phones receive virtually no updates.

        My impression is that most agencies actually provide iPhones (basic ones, i.e. the SE). I see plenty of XCovers where ruggedization is needed, but that is more among police, firebrigades, logistics. Though I suppose stuff like that can vary from country to country. I have never (in the smartphone age) seen a $100 trash phone supplied as a service phone. Not saying it cannot happen, but it is certainly not the standard.

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          • tsx
          • B{S
          • 20 Jan 2025

          Zakalwe, 19 Jan 2025Average phones are used much more gently in that regards, a... moreYea, good luck running that 4000mAh phone for 16 hours per day. Even with a static image.
          Also, most agencies will not buy you an XCover - you'd either get some trash 100$ phone or a specialized unit that is not sold to the public, depending on which agency it is.
          "First responders" - you mean police and firemen ? Yea, nobody cares there either, you get a trash phone, because it is not relevant to your job. Just the reality.
          As for service contracts - lol. Any company can provide that. Samsung is not special and neither is Xcover. And when they issue thousands of trash phones, they don't care about support - they just replace anything for any cause. It's just cheaper that way.

          So yea, Xcover is actually sold more to enthusiasts.

            Anonymous, 19 Jan 2025By that logic every single phone in existence should have s... moreAverage phones are used much more gently in that regards, about four hours of daily screen time on average, with fluctuating brightness and highly variable content (just pull down the notifications, and the static elements change). But e.g. run navigation for a few hours during the day, i.e. at max brightness, and burn-in quickly becomes real. Uber drivers frequently get this. Now run it with a single app at max brightness for 8-16 hours 5 days a week...

            But I agree that cost is likely a more important factor. With a mostly single purpose tool phone, burn-in probably would not really matter as long as the phone remains good enough to get things done. Similarly, those who pay for these phones also do not care about whether the workers using the phones get to see slightly blacker blacks and other such OLED advantages Youtube reviewers get excited about, because those minor advantages also do not matter in practice, and especially not if they cost more.

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              • Anonymous
              • 39y
              • 19 Jan 2025

              Every time I see these phones reminds me of how much I miss the Galaxy Active series, and how much this just doesn't match that. At the end of the day it's built to a price in a way that the Active series wasn't, and while that isn't as likely to put me off as previously (the 7sg3 is weaker than the 8g2 I'm using, but I don't game much on my phone anymore) I would still be willing to pay the extra for it.

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                • Anonymous
                • Mfs
                • 19 Jan 2025

                Zakalwe, 19 Jan 2025The XCover series is geared towards enterprise, agencies an... moreBy that logic every single phone in existence should have serious burn in issues due to static elements like the battery indicator, time, network etc etc and that just doesn't happen. The only time I've even seen image retention on any display was the LCD on my G5, everything else including a Galaxy S4 has been fine so image retention seems to be way overblown in my experience.

                Of course OLEDs are still expensive and their reliance on PWM dimming is a serious factor (I think those are real, valid reasons for LCDs), but burn in I don't think is the main issue.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • Mfs
                  • 19 Jan 2025

                  Anonymous, 17 Jan 2025None with OLED, headphone jack and removable battery. Wh... morePWM (which is required by OLED to keep good colour volume) can cause serious issues with eyestrain for people who are sensitive to it. I'm personally not affected, but I know a few people who are and my understanding is some OLEDs are better than others but LCDs with a DC backlight are still more comfortable.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 4BT
                    • 19 Jan 2025

                    Zakalwe, 19 Jan 2025The XCover series is geared towards enterprise, agencies an... moreBelieving markets bs is funny

                      tsx, 17 Jan 2025Chipset is nice and all but you need 2 things in a rugged p... moreThe XCover series is geared towards enterprise, agencies and first responders, not hikers. XCover customers don't buy "8,000mAh" miracle phones on AliExpress from weird Chinese internet brands with no support, they buy fleets of x-thousand certified phones with long-term service contracts from known manufacturers with local offices and support staff.

                      XCover phones have pogo pins for rugged charging, and there is a 3rd party ecosystem of XCover-compatible multi-device charging cradles, vehicle mounts, external batteries, barcode scanners etc.

                      I hope they stick to LCD rather than OLED. Image quality differences are negligible (and these phones are for work, not gaming or Instagram), and unlike a consumer phone an XCover must expect to display near static content at high brightness for hours (e.g. mounted on a forklift, running the warehousing app for the whole shift), making rapid burn-in almost inevitable with OLED.

                        Anonymous, 17 Jan 2025None with OLED, headphone jack and removable battery. Wh... moreIt's the OLED that always suffer from burn in, not LCD.

                          Anonymous, 17 Jan 2025None with OLED, headphone jack and removable battery. Wh... moreCause of Pwm dimming.

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                            • Anonymous
                            • 6xA
                            • 17 Jan 2025

                            Finally, a phone worth getting.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • vaS
                              • 17 Jan 2025

                              tsx, 17 Jan 2025Chipset is nice and all but you need 2 things in a rugged p... more'There are countless chinese rugged phones with 6000, 8000 or bigger batteries, why would you buy this one ?'

                              And how many have removable battery?

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                                • S0T
                                • 17 Jan 2025

                                Samsung Surprise !! Yes Sure, Adidas Chip ;;D

                                  YUKI93, 17 Jan 2025While the 7s Gen 3 is essentially a 7s Gen 2 with 4x Cortex... moreThe QSD 778 was legendary for it's time, and keeping up with the flagship QC 8g1 phones that had a big throttling issue. This QC 7sg3 is a very lackluster choice for the chipset. I would've preferred they go with the ageing QC 8g1+ instead. That would've been okay.

                                  Just to note, even the likes of the QC 8g2 and QC 8g3 look slow now, against the likes of the MediaTek D9500, QC 8gElite, and Apple A18 Pro. So yah, no reason to go that far down to the much slower QC 7sg3 for a niche phone with a hefty price tag.

                                  And yes I am a potential buyer. I want that microSD slot, headphone jack, and User Removable Battery. The LCD screen is great, as is the water resistance, and the rugged design. I do like the OneUI software, but this really needs that 6-Year support we're seeing with the S25 lineup. And preferably also a way to gain root privileges in the kernel.

                                    tsx, 17 Jan 2025Chipset is nice and all but you need 2 things in a rugged p... moreAt least Samsung still gives user-replaceable removable battery, so it's still not the end of the world. That said, a bigger battery capacity than the XCover6 Pro is totally welcome.

                                    It's ironic you demand durability yet you want an OLED screen, which is universally known to be not as reliable as an LCD screen (green lines and green screen flickering, anyone?) and more expensive to replace or replace. There's a reason why LCD screens are still being widely used today, and durability is one of those very reason. Also, you have to remember that business and enterprise customers don't do frequent repairs. They always try to keep the hardware running for as long as they possibly can.

                                      While the 7s Gen 3 is essentially a 7s Gen 2 with 4x Cortex-A720 and 4x Cortex-A520 but the same Adreno 710 GPU, it's already a huge improvement over the 778G in XCover6 Pro. I hope that Samsung starts offering 8GB RAM and 256GB internal storage options. A 12GB RAM variant would be nice, but that's just me being somewhat over-optimistic. Also, please keep the USB3 with wired video output and wired DeX support.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • Mkm
                                        • 17 Jan 2025

                                        It's not exactly a niche line as it's still widely popular among SME customers. Also, there are third-party dealers out there who can sell any XCover phones pr tablets to us general public. I got my XCover6 Pro with additional second battery from a dealer.

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