Product manager shares more camera samples from the vivo X200 Ultra

01 April 2025
No comparison with other cameras this time because "it would be too unfair".

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jason, 23 hours agothose 3 same shots are very well balanced and captured, rea... moreIt looks like Xiaomi 15 ultra has a slow readout sensor, often causing not major but noticeable blur, especially in low light shots. A bit of a worry for a flagship in 2025 that's main selling point is the camera

    Eno2, 02 Apr 2025Sorry to disappoint you but your statements are totally inc... morenot gonna look up studies for things i've researched myself with samples and stuff, it's only an anecdote but the differences aren't that massive and more importantly, even if technically it's doubly superior, in reality it's not, that was my point. Just like brightness, on paper something may be 50% brighter but in reality it looks 10-20% better. Don't forget at the end of the day we're not measuring stuff with our computers, we're using these devices to take photos we SEE with our eyes.

    Ofc, larger image sensors allow you to play around more due to the lower noise ratio and the higher dynamic range, but the difference is not so massive that im gonna sacrifice space for other sensors or battery. Or worse, even the feasibility of a product.

    Again, my point isn't that it's not technically superior or anything, my point is that it's not superior enough to justify getting rid of the comfort of the present for a bulkier, uncomfortable version in the future. We carry phones in our pockets, if we had to sacrifice so much i'd rather go for a dedicated camera.

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      • 23 hours ago

      those 3 same shots are very well balanced and captured, really super looking images, although until an independent reviewer tries it on youtube I always hold back on final thoughts, I am however in the market for. new flagship, Xiaomi 15 ultra or vivo X200 Ultra looks lie my choice currently.

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        • 02 Apr 2025

        jiyen235, 02 Apr 2025sensors are never proportionally better. I believe sensor s... moreSorry to disappoint you but your statements are totally incorrect!

        Bigger sensors with the same technology inside, proportionally with size yield better results compared to smaller ones. There is nothing to discuss, it is a scientific fact, not wishful thinking! I encourage you to search on the internet about this fact, on any scientific journal, publication or technical literature.

        1" sensor is doable in size compared to an 1/1,41" one, thus it has twice better image quality, one stop lower noise, double the dynamic range, more bit depth etc.
        The same cam be said about an 1/1,41" sensor compared to an 1/2" one, etc.

        Computational image processing also has an impact on the final image quality, of course, but all else equal, a bigger sensor will always yield a better image!

          Eno2, 02 Apr 2025We want 1" because it's ~70% larger, and proporti... moresensors are never proportionally better. I believe sensor sizes follow a logarithmic scale in terms of quality. The quality jumps between the smaller sensors is absolutely massive but then it starts to taper off.

          For example a 1/4" sensor compared to a 1/3.21" one or a 1/2.55" sensor compared to a 1/1.56" one.

          There is definitely a difference between the 1/1.28" and 1 inch sensors but it's not THAT big, besides, just a 1 inch on a phone means nothing. You NEED the LYT-900 for there to be a decent difference, it's an exceptional sensor. How it's so much better compared to the IMX989 is beyond me but it's absolutely LEAGUES ahead.

          Don't get caught up in the size, think about the quality as well. And more importantly, take a look at the aperture as well, it's the combination of aperture and sensor size change that dictates the light intake difference, not JUST the size. Although this point is somewhat rendered moot as the aperture on the Xiaomi Ultras is incredibly wide as well lol but just throwing this in there. If they had a large sensor with a smaller aperture as compensation, then it'd all have been for nothing. For example the Find X7 Ultra's 6x and the Xiaomi 14 Ultra's 5x are quite close despite the native focal length difference due to the aperture difference. I do personally think the xiaomi is easily better than the x7 ultra's 6x at night, the shots are cleaner which are a result of the aperture.

          Finally, keep in mind these are phones and have space constraints. I personally would love a variable zoom MFT lens on a phone but that's not possible. So a fixed main MFT cam at 23-35 mm and a 1" 46-70mm zoom lens would be dream phone for me. Realistic enough if done right. But you also must consider the fact that these are phone COMPANIES, they're BUSINESSES, thus they need to make phones people will buy. Not many people buy all these Ultras as it is right now, will they really buy such unwieldy beasts? Think, man.

            Anonymous, 02 Apr 2025i don't think nubia is as good as vivo on fitting the ... moreabsolutely impossible. 8000 mah and 1 inch 35 mm would mean a Z Fold 4 level thickness OR a lack of ANY other sensors. Kind of exaggerating but also not really.

              V, 01 Apr 2025I'm choosing between the Vivo X200 Ultra, the Honor Ma... moreNah the x200u will likely be china only thus it'll have originOs which is better if you're ok with importing it
              Also i read something about vivo intention to match funtouch and originOs wich will be huge for us global consumers 💪🏻

                FreDDy, 01 Apr 2025Great pictures...but how can we trust Vivo they have been s... moreWell I trust them, i had a x100 pro and it was great, i trust vivo marketing, i trust them to deliver as well, great company fr
                I might be baised but that's because the x100p was a fantastic camera, you can't blame me for that haha

                  Eno2, 02 Apr 2025By "we", I'm referring to the other people w... moreVery simple answer to your super genius logical mind

                  https://youtu.be/OeErqk_qILE?si=xt9JCYukA-XMijcb
                  https://youtu.be/hEJ_G_uLyrk?si=IzN00DPLBlzND293
                  https://youtu.be/TgiyCAffHD4?si=u26Risy3yatdVVav

                  Three different reputable reviewers comparing x100u to x200p.

                  The competition is neck a neck.

                  D..b parrots keep repeating your arguments everywhere.

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                    brsdrgn, 02 Apr 2025Did you watch x200p vs x100u? Did you see a big differen... moreBy "we", I'm referring to the other people who still have critical thinking active and understand that bigger sensors from the same technology, produce proportionally better results.

                      Anonymous, 01 Apr 2025Let's suppose someone decides to compare X200 Ultra ag... moreLyt818 has Stacked CMOS!

                      Keep talking about the size without watching the comparisons :)

                      Talking like the difference is like day and night.

                      Have you every seen comparisons. X100u vs x200p? The difference is barely noticeable. Night performance is neck a neck!

                      What about your beloved 15u? X200p destroys it with that 'smaller' sensor! :D

                        Eno2, 02 Apr 2025We want 1" because it's ~70% larger, and proporti... moreDid you watch x200p vs x100u?

                        Did you see a big difference? The outputs are neck a neck. It's hard to notice.

                        Who are you by saying "we"?

                        I'm also a consumer! Did I speak on your behalf?

                        Are you trying to justify your argument while trying to show everyone on your side? :)

                          Anonymous, 01 Apr 2025Let's suppose someone decides to compare X200 Ultra ag... moreParrots! Parrots everywhere!

                          Repeating same argument.

                          X200u will have 35mm and other ultras will crop from 23mm therefore gonna look inferior...

                          What about x200u will crop from uw to 23mm meanwhile the others won't?

                          Simply by focusing on the advantage that x200u they treat it like it's wrong and years back people were complaining that main cams are too wide.

                          You're cannot satisfy this i... Not even a bunch. Quite a lot!

                          Another parrot argument:

                          'Vivo didn't use 1 inch sensor'

                          God. How many? How many people wrote that and still not enough they keep writing...

                          I watched plenty of side by side comparison x100u vs x200p and the difference is such less that it barely noticeable. Even at night.

                          X200p already destroys your beloved xiaomi with the main cam as well. Especially the portrait and night photography.

                          Yet, it's not enough for these.

                          Vovo dodn't oso 1 onch sonsor. Ot's 70% moro copocoty.

                          Reading the opinions of so called 'tech enthusiasts' and writing it here like they're the matter experts...

                          Watch the comparisons and see lyt 818 is not going neck a neck with your beloved lyt900.



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                            jiyen235, 02 Apr 2025but you're forgetting to mention the change in focal l... morei don't think nubia is as good as vivo on fitting the camera, vivo can make it closer to the screen so the bump would be smaller
                            add 1 mm to phone thickness overall and boom, 1 inch 35mm sensor and 8000mah battery. i'd buy that

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                              • 02 Apr 2025

                              jiyen235, 02 Apr 2025these people wont appreciate the beauty of a nicer focal le... moreWe want 1" because it's ~70% larger, and proportionally better! If I'm offered the choice, I'd chose a phone with multiple 1" sensors, regardless of the cost, simply because bigger sensors are better, not only in low light but also in any lighting scenarios!

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                                • 02 Apr 2025

                                If vivo is not lanching 200 ultra in india or world then why you people bothering too much to cover vivo 200 ultra specs.

                                  Anonymous, 02 Apr 2025Fanboys of chinese phones make all excuses to justify hardw... morebut you're forgetting to mention the change in focal length. Why did Samsung use a 5x when upgrading the size of the sensor? Why is Xiaomi using a 4x on their 15 Ultra?

                                  Because farther reaching focal lengths require more space, and using already huge sensors alongside a farther reaching focal length would mean an unwieldly cameraphone. Look at this 1 inch 35 mm phone :

                                  https://www.gsmarena.com/heres_an_image_of_nubias_first_1inch_35mm_cameraequipped_phone-news-59696.php

                                  Are you telling me you would have bought this? that people like you would not have complained? Realistically speaking far more people are likelier to buy a 35 mm 1/1.28" phone with a "usable" camera bump compared to this crater. Use your brain and think.

                                  Admittedly, they could've gone for a better middle ground and used a 1/1.12" sensor but since the UW cam is absolutely massive, i think it's a worthy sacrifice. This phone will take better UW cam shots than anything else in the industry for years to come and no phone will match it at 35 mm? So tell me this, would Vivo even bother spending more for better sensors when they're already going to be the best? I'd have liked better stuff but doesnt make much sense from a business perspective either.

                                  Let the phone come out, look at the comparisons with Oppo and others and judge it for yourself. This phone will beat the Pura 70 Ultra's 1 incher because the IMX989 is older and isn't as good in terms of processing capabilities. Only the LYT-900 is better and even then, the difference is only fairly visible in low light, due to improper/aggressive processing and when cropping in.

                                  In short, unlike the X200 Pro, there's a real difference between the previous iteration and due to the change in focal length, it is more justifiable. Additionally wait for samples and compare em yourself, i highly doubt a 1 incher with a crop can handily beat a 1/1.28" at native focal length.

                                    brsdrgn, 01 Apr 2025Try to read more stuff. Work on your logic! What crop ar... morethese people wont appreciate the beauty of a nicer focal length, they just want a 1 inch sensor for the sake of having a 1 inch sensor.

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                                      Anonymous, 02 Apr 2025Fanboys of chinese phones make all excuses to justify hardw... moreAll brands rely on the Chinese ODM Wingtech, so what's your point?

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                                        I simply sense a boycott from American chip manufacturers and critical phone components providers. Reason, if both google or apple can't stand against the technological advancements against them, they take this simple route. History repeats itself. Huawei was a victim, reason these companies simply cannot digest the fact that someone out there is doing much better job them.

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