vivo X200 Ultra in for review
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- d%H
- 25 May 2025
When is the review coming up? Would love to see a comparison or in the article about this phone vs, oppo find ultra and Xiaomi ultra.
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- T the Tinkerer
- Ib5
- 25 May 2025
I would love to see this up against the Xiaomi 15 Ultra. I I love the 35mm lens. I almost exclusively use the 2x mode in my Xperia 1 VI due to hating those 23/24mm focal lengths.
If the x200 ultra has a good enough camera and battery life, I may choose it over the Xiaomi 15 Ultra and forgo having band 71/n71 access with the global Xiaomi...
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- Conan Ng
- P%E
- 24 May 2025
Using this exact one,
and can already tell you a big con disadvantage :
Telephoto Lens Mode cannot (yet, if only a software issue) use any better resolution than 12.5 megapixels, when the 85mm APO II lens is described to be 200 megapixels! Not even able to do 50MP!!
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- SirArtur
- mMr
- 20 May 2025
rados22, 20 May 2025Not only the zoom. OIS of the rear cameras is jaw dropping-... moreSure, but again, that has nothing to do with 200 Mpix. The smaller the pixel, the easier to get hand shake, as the light path between pixels is smaller.
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- rados22
- gxG
- 20 May 2025
SirArtur, 18 May 2025You are right about Vivo having the best zoom, but 200Mpix ... moreNot only the zoom. OIS of the rear cameras is jaw dropping- X200 Ultra vs iPhone 16Pro Max:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UujBWbbhdIk
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- SirArtur
- mMr
- 18 May 2025
rados22, 18 May 2025You are right, Xiaomi's lack of focus is a sign, that ... moreYou are right about Vivo having the best zoom, but 200Mpix sensor is not the reason. How big the sensor is and how good the lens is - that is the reason.
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- rados22
- gxG
- 18 May 2025
SirArtur, 17 May 2025Yes, so what's your point here? All of them have the b... moreYou are right, Xiaomi's lack of focus is a sign, that OIS struggles in low light, but that's the lesser of two evils, because even if it isn't blurred, the Xiaomi's image lacks the light, dynamic range and resolution of the Vivo, and therefore lacks detail, especially in the dark parts of the photo.
Galaxy S25 Ultra has a 50MP camera with a 111mm zoom, but due to its half-smaller sensor and slower lens, is also easily beaten by Vivo- this is a comparison between X200U and S25U in 4K quality– Vivo easily beats Samsung on almost all levels:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6lx6UckVAIY&t=5s
Techtablets channel concluded after Xiaomi and Oppo comparison, that Vivo is the best camera phone, adding in the comments that it makes no sense to compare Vivo to iPhone and Samsung because Vivo has superior hardware- Vivo can shoot 4K/120 with every single rear camera. Xiaomi and Oppo can't. Vivo can record log videos. Oppo can't.
Vivo can shoot at 24fps. The other two phones can't.
Vivo has the largest ultrawide-camera sensor on the market- twice the size of its competitors. It's the only phone in the world with optical image stabilization for its ultrawide camera. This is why Vivo handily beat the competition at the Techtablets night walk. This means, X200 Ultra is the only phone in the world to offer optical image stabilization for ALL rear image sensors.
Vivo has the best stabilization (zoom and ultrawide), the best ultrawide (day and night), and the best zoom (day and night) – not because of the software, but because of the best hardware (plus two imaging chips)
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- AltFantasy
- YRu
- 18 May 2025
ProMaxUltraAreBricks, 16 May 2025We shouldn't be cheering on manufacturers who delibera... moreeh, I'm not sure about the "artificial crippling" thing. And I'm not sure about the whole "expecting the flagship to work everywhere" thing too. I mean, if so, how do Chinese people make calls and use 5G with their phones, then? they don't have access to the global versions...
about the "official warranty/local support" part, it also depends on if the brand's support is even decent enough. As for me, I'd rather trust local 3rd-party repair shops than "official" warranty, at least the former is more transparent, since I can watch the repairers fix my phone, meanwhile only god knows what the brand is doing with it.
And, sometimes, brands still offer support for China-exclusive phones even though they don't need to. Oppo is one example, here in my country they still offer warranty for OnePlus phones (both global and China-exclusive), despite OnePlus not officially operating in my country.
and, finally, your definition of "flagship" is a little bit too tight to my liking. Say we have two Xiaomi 15 Ultra phone, one is a global version, the other is from China. If we call the global one a "flagship", then what should we call the other one, according to you? "upper mid-range"?
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- alfamus
- Ldt
- 17 May 2025
LOVECAT, 16 May 2025In combine mode landsc. & Night phone have some fixed o... moreWoah, it's so good hard to believe, thanks!
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- SirArtur
- mMr
- 17 May 2025
rados22, 17 May 2025Vivo, Xiaomi and Honor flagships have 200-megapixel sensors... moreYes, so what's your point here? All of them have the biggest sensors on the market when it comes to the periscope. 200 Mpix in Vivo and Xiaomi gives only more data for oversampling, but will not give true 200 Mpix, no matter how good the sensor is. Vivo has the brightest lens of all 3, but all of them are limited by the diffraction even below 25 Mpix. Additionally, Xiaomi on the periscope has serious issues with the stabilisation, which is why it loses that badly during the night. If Xiaomi or Vivo had good 50MPix sensors, with the same size and same lenses, the difference would be minimal or none, all depends on how the algorithm for oversampling would work there. Mpix does not matter if they are added above the diffraction limit on the setup sensor + lens. I have Xiaomi 15U from the very first day when it was available on the global market, and even on the 8.6x times on the pixel level you can start to see that there is less information than pixels in the image.
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- rados22
- gxG
- 17 May 2025
SirArtur, 17 May 2025You know something, but you do not fully understand what yo... moreVivo, Xiaomi and Honor flagships have 200-megapixel sensors in their zoom cameras. This gives them more flexibility and greater zoom range than other flagships. All three sensors are the same size as a main camera.
But Vivo has the fastest lens and offers the highest quality in night zoom photos and videos on the market, even though Xiaomi zoom lens has 15mm more- Vivo zoom simply destroys Xiaomi and Oppo in night photo and video:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YI1lWrsSLc4
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- Waxy
- miC
- 17 May 2025
Massi, 16 May 2025I got mine last week from China,it took me a day to fix it,... moreI don't have any of the notification issues. You need to let the apps run in the background (don't use smart power control) and you'll get full notifications on time
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- Jeeseymoose
- pYd
- 17 May 2025
Anyone who has one able to comment on the Bluetooth audio quality to headphones / speakers?
Not bothered about speakers on the actual phone
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- Svenska Dagbladet
- T3u
- 17 May 2025
Chinese market only - no global version. Full of country-specific bloatware. Unusable for other countries.
- jiyen235
- 2WB
- 17 May 2025
Aierlan, 17 May 2025The OV50e is using exactly the same tech as the OV50h in th... moredang interesting
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- Aierlan
- XkN
- 17 May 2025
jiyen235, 16 May 2025wow, sensors are THIS cheap yet Scamsung, Pooxel and Apple ... moreThe OV50e is using exactly the same tech as the OV50h in the Xiaomi 14pro. It's just a smaller 1/1.55" version of the OV50h with basically all the same features e.g. DCG. The sensor on the Xiaomi 14pro is not ominvision's most advanced one. The magic 6 ultimate had a better one with Lofic tech which was more advanced. The one on the Xiaomi 14pro was used also by the magic 6 and magic 6 pro but the magic 6 ultimate had a more advanced sensor. OV64B was a sensor mainly for budget phones and secondary sensors e.g. telephotos on higher end phones. It's quite old. I think they may have even stopped manufacturing it
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- rados22
- gxG
- 17 May 2025
The author has omitted, that the grip has a built-in 2300 mAh battery, which significantly extends battery life
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- rados22
- gxG
- 17 May 2025
Massi, 16 May 2025I got mine last week from China,it took me a day to fix it,... moreNotifications setup:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uH8GGzpxld4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCXbjS86oBE
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- SirArtur
- mMr
- 17 May 2025
LOVECAT, 16 May 2025You are in a big mistake!
Megapixels are of great importan... moreYou know something, but you do not fully understand what you know.
So let's make it easier. The resolution of the image is the result of the resolution of the lens and the resolution of the sensor. And yes, the simple rule is - the more megapixels you have, the detailed the image you can get.
But reality is not that simple. First of all, of course, the smaller the pixel is, the lower to signal-to-noise ratio you get, so noisier the single pixel will become, as some of the noise components are constant while the signal will always vary.
But the more important thing is that you cannot just add more and more resolution, as at some point laws of physics will start to limit the image quality. And one of those will be the light diffraction limit. In simple words, the smallest distinguished detail in the image cannot be smaller than the wave of light. If we take, for example, green light, the most common one, its wavelength is 550nm = 0.00055mm. To calculate the Airy disk, we use 2.44 * wavelength * aperture. Let's take a fairly big sensor size, 1/1.3", and a quite fast lens, F/1.6. Pixel size in such a sensor is about 0.7µm, and the Airy disk will be around 2.15. IF the disk is bigger than a single pixel image will start to soften. If the disk is more than twice the pixel size, that means that those two pixels cannot have different information, because of the diffraction limit. And now, you may ask, what is the limit for that 1/1.3 sensor with F/1.6? And that is around 32 Mpix. So anything above that will not improve the resolution of the image. Sure, AI will generate something, some sharpening algorithms will add another, but there will be no more information to work with, no matter the resolution. And we talk here about a situation where the lens is made of 100% physically perfect materials. And that limit can often be seen in the pictures from smartphones, as soft image, ghosting on the edges of contrasty things, etc. So why do we see more details on the higher resolutions of the images? Well, good algorithms to interpolate information. So that is why to make sensors bigger and lenses faster (and therefore bigger as well, as F-stop is just a relation of lens length to diameter of the lens). You cannot just make 300, 400 or 800 Mpix sensor and expect it will give you more details just like that. And that is not something that you can just improve with a new generation of the sensors, like noise, where new sensors e.g. produce less heat so the heat noise is smaller.
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- Nick Tegrataker
- Xpg
- 16 May 2025
Anonymous, 16 May 2025Compression really gets exaggerated once you go above 70mm ... moreThe difference in perspective is more obvious in wide-angle lenses. There's not much of a noticeable difference between 600mm and 900mm in terms of compression, but you can see how the subject's shape differs in 24mm and 35mm shots more readily (when shooting from closer distances on 600mm and 24mm lenses to match the subject size in frame with 900mm and 35mm lenses, respectively).