Samsung I8000 Omnia2 shows its face for the very first time

08 June, 2009
The Samsung I8000 made its first public appearance thanks to a Lithuanian online retailer. The I8000 marketed as the Omnia2 will sport a huge AMOLED touchscreen, 8.1 megapixel camera, full pack...

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  • 11 Jun 2009

Anonymous, 10 Jun 2009What prevents this phone from going from good to great is ... more1) No dual SIM
- How many people need this?

2) No Slider Keyboard
- Same, how many percent of people ready needs slider keyboard?

3) No Stylus input
- It definitely will came with unless WinMo make a big changes. If they make a big change all touchable by finger, then finger touch is always better than stylus.

4) Win Mo Software
- What wrong with WinMO software?

5) High Radiation levels
- Which phone is not?!?

6) Standard Charger (Mini USB) and Headphone jack
- This is a benefit! I don't know what are you thinking of.

7) Stereo Blue tooth???
- No people told you it not support. A2DP is common in all new phone now as no need to advertise as main spec.

8) Not 4G compatable
- What!!! even Japan also still testing on it. You are crazy or short of knowledge. 4G won't come so soon, what the point added on it?

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    • Anonymous
    • R57
    • 11 Jun 2009

    Anonymous, 10 Jun 2009What prevents this phone from going from good to great is ... more1) No dual SIM = Who uses dual SIM? During the "juvenille" years of mobile phones probably. Now with roaming, extremely competitive service plans. Messaging and call rates at rock bottom levels. Why dual sim?

    2) No Slider Kayboard = I think this is a personal preference but I agree that some form of hardware input is preferred. I'm no fan of pure touchscreen devices.

    3) No Stylus input = This WILL have stylus. WM devices MUST have stylus.

    4) Win Mo Software = Personel preference I suppose.

    5) High Radiation levels = Yes its as high as Cherynobyl.

    6) Standard Charger (Mini USB) and Headphone jack = What's wrong with the charger? Unless its some Samsung propriety jack, its standard for WM devices to have USB chargers. So you don't need 10 chargers when a standard USB cable would suffice.

    7) Stereo Blue tooth??? = Do you mean Bluetooth 2.0 / 2.1 EBR?

    8) Not 4G compatable = Who the hell uses 4G anyway. Also 4G doesn't exist. Not yet. Its a marketing gimmick. WiMax of whatever its called is just a longer range of normal WiFi. True 4G is still not deployed yet.

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      • Anonymous
      • PIQ
      • 11 Jun 2009

      Anonymous, 10 Jun 2009Are you saying that a WinMo phone with similar specs is bet... moreYes it is. This is like comparing a PC with say an XBOX360. Pound for pound, the hardware on a PC is many times more powerful than a 360. But a 360 is tightly integrated while a PC is more for a lack of a better word, "loose" which leads to what you call "effectiveness". Also because a PC needs say Windows to run a software, it doesn't have all its RAM available to the system unlike the XBOX360. So yes pound for pound, a WM device's hardware is more powerful than a Symbian device. As for "effectiveness", I think you meant "efficiency", its how WM is designed. Its how computers are designed. You have X amount of RAM, the O/S always uses Y amount. So what is left is Z=X-Y. As for the "effectinvess" part, definitely Symbian does a better job handling multiple softwares. But that's because softwares written for Symbian is usually based on a fixed standard. E.g. Memory consumption cannot exceed a certain amount. WM devices are only restricted to what hardware you use WM. In other words, you can write a WM software that requires 512MB dedicated RAM. It would work on WM. But you need someone to make a device that has that much dedicated RAM. Hence why some software written for WM performs better in some devices but not others.

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        • Anonymous
        • nbu
        • 10 Jun 2009

        Are you saying that a WinMo phone with similar specs is better than it's Symbian counterpart? Obviously you don't know what you're talking about, since the WinMo OS will use half of the specs for itself alone, not availible for the user!!! WinMo sucks when it comes to effectiveness!

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          • Anonymous
          • tV0
          • 10 Jun 2009

          Hmm.. The Omnia2 video seems to suggest a memory problem. Tip? Picture viewer. HTC's Camera Album is better and the gesture controls work and they have 288MB RAM (referring to the Touch2 phones). This version is lagging all over when loading the pictures. Once loaded, select images and the zoom, etc is lagging which again indicates a memory problem. I think the reason its possibly in the TouchWiz. If TouchWiz lags even in a standard Samsung phone, which uses less memory than a WM device then its an indication the UI is very inefficient or in PC terms, a memory hog.

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            • Anonymous
            • tV0
            • 10 Jun 2009

            Paul, 09 Jun 2009A Xenon flash is useless for a smartphone???? WHAT are you ... moreFlash prevents the need for the camera sensor to move the ISO higher. But the small sensor on a camera phone means the Xenon flash would need to be really REALLY bright and powerful to compensate for the smaller sensor. So in most cases, a Xenon flash in a phone will not help much. It may help say in 1 metre night shots and even then its probably potraity shots. Anything more and LED would still do the same job. That's why not every manufacturer is going xenon and that's why the xenon craze has died down. Not only does it use more power, the alternative, dual LED flash actually provides better performance in most cases and doesn't eat as much power.

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              • Anonymous
              • tV0
              • 10 Jun 2009

              eiad, 09 Jun 2009small screen ,whats wrong about all the cell phones compani... moreDid you even read the news? It says 3.7" WVGA screen. The Iphone 3G is 3.5"... So which version of Omnia2 has a smaller screen than Iphone?

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                • Anonymous
                • tV0
                • 10 Jun 2009

                Paul, 10 Jun 2009No it does not have kinetic scrolling only the Browser has ... moreWhat does it matter? If you're a real WinMo user, you most likely will revert back to the default WinMo interface anyway. Most veteran WinMo users and power users buy WinMo for its power and flexibility not for its eye candy. But Microsoft is pushing WM as a mass market platform. Unfortunately, it will be WinMo 7 before it becomes mass market. 6.5 is more of a UI upgrade than an overhaul.

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                  • Anonymous
                  • tV0
                  • 10 Jun 2009

                  Anonymous, 09 Jun 2009it is possible to edit office by using quick office softwar... moreNot really. The normal Quick Office loaded onto S60 phones cannot edit. You have to buy the license to edit. All WinMo devices come with the ability to edit Office docs.. WM6.1 includes .docx and .xlsx (i.e. Office 2007 default format) support out of the box.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • vGq
                    • 10 Jun 2009

                    What prevents this phone from going from good to great is
                    1) No dual SIM
                    2) No Slider Kayboard
                    3) No Stylus input
                    4) Win Mo Software
                    5) High Radiation levels
                    6) Standard Charger (Mini USB) and Headphone jack
                    7) Stereo Blue tooth???
                    8) Not 4G compatable

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                      • MAE
                      • 10 Jun 2009

                      Anonymous, 10 Jun 2009The N97 has kinetic scrollingNo it does not have kinetic scrolling only the Browser has it no where else has it e.g menus, photo browser (unless you down the new one from nokia labs) messages, contacts.

                      Every review & youtube video shows you have to use the scroll bar or drag your finger downwards to go downwards. If it does please post on youtube & show, if id does I might buy this phone.

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                        • Anonymous
                        • PUa
                        • 10 Jun 2009

                        Paul, 09 Jun 2009The N97 is so good they forgot to add kinetic scrolling to ... moreThe N97 has kinetic scrolling

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                          • 3Ad
                          • 10 Jun 2009

                          As for Nokia? I believe that No Kia is good enough to stay second.

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                            • Spyros/Cesar.s.c.
                            • 3Ad
                            • 10 Jun 2009

                            In a few days Sony Ericsson wil rename to Sony NERDicsson, if it continue to sell this things with M2 that it likes to name mobile phones.

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                              • 3Ad
                              • 10 Jun 2009

                              So Samsung has:
                              The best winmo: I8000 Omnia2
                              The best symbian: I8910 OmniaHD
                              The best android: I7500
                              IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE BEST YOU WILL TAKE A SAMSUNG !!!

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                                • Spyros/Cesar.c.s.
                                • 3Ad
                                • 10 Jun 2009

                                Come on girls... Do you want the best winmo mobile phone; You will buy Samsung Omnia2. Do you want the best symbian mobile phone; You will buy Samsung OmniaHD. Do you want the best android mobile phone; You will buy Samsung I7500.

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                                  • PUT
                                  • 10 Jun 2009

                                  WINNER, 10 Jun 2009W995 VS N86 Satio VS i8910HD VS N97 VS Pixon12 X2 VS Omni... moreMate.. r u losing ur head? desperate to WIN?
                                  W995 vs N86? everyone knows the answer . 8MP with carl zeiss, wide angle,16M OLED,8GB hard drive plus Smart OS and many more which W995 doesn't have.
                                  Satio and X2? yeah .. u wait long long. when X2 come out, there will already be Omnia 3, LOL.

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                                    • 2xA
                                    • 10 Jun 2009

                                    someone, 09 Jun 2009Xperia X1 vs I900 Omnia vs e90 vs n96. Xperia X2 vs i8000 ... moreW995 VS N86
                                    Satio VS i8910HD VS N97 VS Pixon12
                                    X2 VS Omnia2

                                    All SE Best !! WINNER
                                    W995 WIN!! ClearStereo + 8.1mp
                                    Satio WIN!! Symbian 12mp Best UI Cybershot+Walkman Combine
                                    X2 WIN!! Wm6.5 Up To Wm7 OLED CPU1GHz Ram512

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                                      • 2xA
                                      • 10 Jun 2009

                                      cube = copy lg arena s-class
                                      ss sux

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                                        • Dexter Morgan
                                        • MsN
                                        • 10 Jun 2009

                                        I'm sure the UI will work smoothly, I mean even the N97 when videos were leaked it had problems when touching midgets.. I say we give it some time!! Windows Rullleeess!!