Nokia 5233
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- 25 Nov 2010
JUSTBOUGHT5233, 25 Nov 2010nope mate....actually a bit busy with studies these days...... moreWell bro, if i were you I'd listen to sidewinder and go for sony MDR-ED12LP(not sure about comfort levels). Which model did sb recommend?
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- TL5
- 25 Nov 2010
Sbdevilmind, 25 Nov 2010Yes of course. 3D movies infact is impossible to make in ce... moreHmm.. 3D movies have been around longer than digital cinematography or even computers.
As far as safety of media is concerned.. You are forgetting that exact copies of digital media can be produced while it's impossible for celluloid films(don't know whether they actually make backups like that).
Anyways we are going way off topic. So lets stop this discussion here before someone cries 'OFF-TOPIC' :-P
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- 25 Nov 2010
Anonymous, 25 Nov 2010audio tapes or compact disc which delivers real music quality ?Good question. But, i wasn't talking of audio tapes. I was talking of video capture. I know why you asked the question. Older tapes sounded awful compared to todays mp3s. So how come i am saying the opposite. Actually audio capture in movies is done digitally only, i.e digital signal processing and then printing in tapes. Videos being a completly different subject is what i am saying is done in celluloids. Videos are captured as continuous capture of still images, taking more than 24 pictures a second and then changing them into frames (from the word 'frame rate') in digital media. This celluloid thing is nothing but the same material used in the reels of old still cameras. They had a maximum of 36 snaps, remember.
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- 25 Nov 2010
utk, 25 Nov 2010Hey buddy, forgot to ask. Did you find any headphone you like?nope mate....actually a bit busy with studies these days.....and i also live away from a metro city, so can't visit the big stores very frequently, but will surely buy shortly. btw have you noticed nokia is providing this same sub-standard headphone(no controversies plz, only in respect to music phones) with almost every new phone they are launching equipped with just a fm radio!
though it will seem a very irritating question to you..... i am still confused if to begin with a small investment(mdr-e818lp) or to go for mid-range(that one sb suggested, of the mdr series).....
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- 25 Nov 2010
utk, 25 Nov 2010Hey buddy, forgot to ask. Did you find any headphone you like?nope mate....actually a bit busy with studies these days.....and i also live away from a metro city, so can't visit the big stores very frequently, but will surely buy shortly. btw have you noticed nokia is providing this same sub-standard headphone(no controversies plz, only in respect to music phones) with almost every new phone they are launching equipped with just a fm radio!
though it will seem a very irritating question to you..... i am still confused if to begin with a small investment(mdr-e818lp) or to go for mid-range(that one sb suggested, of the mdr series).....
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- 25 Nov 2010
Sbdevilmind, 25 Nov 2010Yes of course. 3D movies infact is impossible to make in ce... moreaudio tapes or compact disc which delivers real music quality ?
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- 25 Nov 2010
utk, 25 Nov 2010Hey buddy, forgot to ask. Did you find any headphone you like?www.nokia-asia.com/find-products/accessories/all-accessories/headsets/wired-headsets/nokia-stereo-headset-wh-102
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- 25 Nov 2010
utk, 25 Nov 2010No, most hollywood movies these days are fully digital and ... moreYes of course. 3D movies infact is impossible to make in celluloids. Hence the implimentation. And due to the massive improvements in the methods of digital recording in todays world, celluloid might finally disappear. But its worth noting that this trend is very new. Bollywood movies(indian made) are still in celluloid. Maybe because of its massive quality retaining qualities in low cost. Just to get the almost equal quality of celluloid, the amount of digital media storage is very high. But to maintain practicality of this subject, digital method seem more convenient to me as well. I too wonder why people capture movies in celluloid(old school) and then convert to digital media(latest tech), but if one thinks for some time then he will realise that digital method would be far more expensive (to maintain equal quality of celluloid capture). Little deterioration of raw video capture is retrievable but if digital media deteriorates or corrupts, then retrieval is impossible. In short, celluloid is reliable and of immensly high quality while digital capture is easy but expensive to retain equal quality.
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- 25 Nov 2010
JUSTBOUGHT5233, 25 Nov 2010side, you are from south india right? great to know your in... moreHey buddy, forgot to ask. Did you find any headphone you like?
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- 25 Nov 2010
Sbdevilmind, 25 Nov 20101. Its not true that there is no 160+ kbps songs in net. Al... moreNo, most hollywood movies these days are fully digital and do not make use of films. 'Slumdog millionaire' was the first digitally shot movie to win an academy award for best cinematography. Avatar was also shot using digital cameras.
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- 25 Nov 2010
JUSTBOUGHT5233, 25 Nov 2010side, you are from south india right? great to know your in... more1. Its not true that there is no 160+ kbps songs in net. Although the amount of high kbps songs direct download links is quite hard to find, still i myself have downloaded 320 kbps songs from site like beemp3. Anyways, 320 kbps songs can be easily downloaded through torrent.
2. Enhancing bitrate is possible but is useless. If you take a 128kbps song and convert it to a 320kbps one then the size is the only thing that increase not the quality. For eg, you can't increase the flow of water through a pipe by just increasing the size (i.e diameter of pipe) of it. But the reverse is possible. I mean to convert a 320kbps song to a 128kbps one(to decrease size but by loosing quality).
3. Quality wise, there is some humanly audible difference between 128 and 320kbps song. But its almost impossible to find differences in the sound after the bitrate crosses 192 kbps, provided they are being compressed from the same raw audio data.
Technically 320kbps itself is not the best quality audio. These are lossy formats of raw (lossless) audio. A raw audio data is over 50mb size for a single song of about 4min duration. Because of this lossy nature of digital media, people still use celluloid to capture video in movie making. Formats like mp3, aac,wmv etc were invented keeping in mind that human ears are not sensitive enough to judge the difference of audio quality after crossing a certain limit (320kbps). So compressing audio upto this quality will not bring any drastic change in the audio, at least to a human ear. Computers can detect the difference, but not humans. Btw, loudness has no relation to audio quality or bitrate. Unit of quality is kbps or mbps while unit of loudness is decibels(db). Both are complete different subjects. (when gsmarena gives a verdict on the audio quality of a certain device, they don't consider the volume. So the ratings you see in audio quality segment of gsmarena review is only based on the quality not the volume, so don't get mistaken).
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- 25 Nov 2010
Anonymous, 25 Nov 2010side, you are from south india right? great to know your in... moreSouth, particularly Kerala and Karnataka have a huge rock/metal followers. So it shouldn't really be a surprise, some of the top Indian bands are from south.
As for difference between 128 and 288/320 kbps. It's not about volume but quality. The funny part is, unless you got a good quality speaker system (headphones in our case) all this extra bitrates and quality are useless. I download files from torrents where usually I manage to find most of music I need in high quality (directly converted from FLAC source). Btw, it's useless converting a 128 kbps file to higher bitrates. You cannot magically create quality that is not present in your source file.
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- 25 Nov 2010
5233 , 5230 which is best?
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- 25 Nov 2010
side, you are from south india right? great to know your international taste of music. btw i never went beyond mj/akon/shakira/celine dionne......some songs only though. but i am trying to expand my world of music selection.
you mentioned 280kbps songs, mostly in net there is only 128/160 kbps songs. without having a pc i think its impossible to enhance the bitrate, right? how much will be the difference between a 128 & 280/320 kbps song in terms of quality & loudness?
plz post your much awaited comments.
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- 25 Nov 2010
side, you are from south india right? great to know your international taste of music. btw i never went beyond mj/akon/shakira/celine dionne......some songs only though. but i am trying to expand my world of music selection.
you mentioned 280kbps songs, mostly in net there is only 128/160 kbps songs. without having a pc i think its impossible to enhance the bitrate, right? how much will be the difference between a 128 & 280/320 kbps song in terms of quality & loudness?
plz post your much awaited comments.
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- 25 Nov 2010
Rahul, 24 Nov 2010Music Sound is totally disguisting...plz check d sound qual... moreye i have this mobile music .. is not so gud ...even in calling also heard very low sound
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- TL5
- 25 Nov 2010
nk333, 25 Nov 2010I need to understand what you mean exactly by 'RAM eater' a... moreIt means it uses up too much RAM w.r.t it's performance output. Try opening up 3-4 tabs and you will start seeing low memory errors. At the same time UC or opera mini can easily open 10 tabs and still have plenty of RAM to spare. The problem with opera mobile is that the webpage rendering is done on the phone(opera servers do this bit in case of opera mini) using phone's hardware. As a result it ends up using too much RAM and processing power (processor is very much capable of handling the load but too little RAM). The heavy usage might have been justified if it had any flash support capabilities like default browser or skyfire browser.
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- 25 Nov 2010
Anonymous, 25 Nov 2010as you know your personal e mail accounts each other, why n... morehey dont say like that . It is not an off topic post really. Music is a part of the phone these days. So those tracks are actually good applications to test and enjoy the phone's music. Actually i am more interested in the film music of my regional language .But downloaded some of those tracks and it found it nice. I want more .
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- 25 Nov 2010
Anonymous, 24 Nov 2010uc browser has the best download manager ever. It is not a ... moreI need to understand what you mean exactly by 'RAM eater' and how it affects functioning of my mobile. From whatever i know of computers too much ram used will cause slowing of comp & guess something similar might be happening with mobile. But does it really affect significantly?? Anyways another problem with UB browser was that many websites failed to open. So had to return to opera browser.
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- 25 Nov 2010
Sbdevilmind, 25 Nov 2010Come on, dude. Don't be so hard. He was helping me as i req... moreas you know your personal e mail accounts each other, why not you use it for personal chats?answer it first. So its a show for all .Attaching a sorry with off topic items dont make it in topic. So give your suggestions to anybody else, Sb .
Look, i am just making my stand clear.
Btw, there is no question on Sidewinde's helping nature and experience.I can question even my respected president in case of a suspect.