Nokia 808 PureView
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- copycat
- mVx
- 10 Jul 2012
faiz, 09 Jul 2012don't buy this phone.buy samsung galaxy fit.because u can c... moreEewww,,,what a wrong decision you made....
I hate samsung in the first place,,,cheap plastic cover.
It's like u having a dummy phone.Sorry that's the fact!!
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- Gayan
- P@T
- 10 Jul 2012
180ppi.............. LOL
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- Galaxy X
- p4K
- 10 Jul 2012
Here we go ! Nokia delivers an amazing device with incredible camera...now you do not have to drag your digicamera with you again when going on holidays ! This Nokia device combines everything you need. OK,If you need 1,000 Apps which Apple provides then not,but,lets face it,who really needs all those apps..?? Go for this one ! and be happy ;)
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- Anonymous
- YPb
- 10 Jul 2012
Resolution : 360 x 640
It blows my mind away. Who pays for $600 this, unless you are no brainer.
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- AnonD-27987
- YTZ
- 10 Jul 2012
Robert D., 09 Jul 2012To all Nokia/Symbian haters:
This is a review by the Ame... moreid like to quote everything you posted, but people might think im spamming,
you sir are posting things that people should learn....about
the real truth!
very informative dear sir
and for that... great postings sir ^_^
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- MdN
- Mtr
- 10 Jul 2012
New articles on All About Symbian!
808 vs HTC One S:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15153_Head_to_head_Nokia_808_PureVie.php
808 vs N8:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/item/15186_Nokia_808_PureView_part_2c_cam.php
808 vs N86 (low light):
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/15160_By_popular_request_Nokia_N86_t.php
Enjoy!
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- AnonD-49370
- P@1
- 10 Jul 2012
tnx sir ROBERT D. for your factual indepth analysis on current situation of symbian belle and pureview.... kudos to you sir.....
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- jaganatha
- 9xp
- 09 Jul 2012
godd buthow about price
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- boyoftoy
- vwh
- 09 Jul 2012
faiz, 09 Jul 2012don't buy this phone.buy samsung galaxy fit.because u can c... more@ faiz.. dude, you better check, there is a huge difference between Galaxy Fit and PurView... PurView is much advanced.
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- anonmous
- 7t8
- 09 Jul 2012
i bought this phone before one months.its camera resolution is perfect.its like using android device.and its video recording is wonderful.i thing we can compare this device with samsung galaxy s2.
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- AnonD-48773
- uts
- 09 Jul 2012
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40519087@N06/7536690462/in/photostream
pureview
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- AnonD-48773
- uts
- 09 Jul 2012
pureview power
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40519087@N06/7534141054/in/photostream/
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- Anonymous
- uti
- 09 Jul 2012
how to mark multiple files in gallery for photos? can any one help on this
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- jazzfarhan
- Iaj
- 09 Jul 2012
is there any phone tracker app for 808 pureview that really works ?? plzzz i need to know
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- true nokia 808pv use
- t7X
- 09 Jul 2012
AnonD-38290, 09 Jul 2012people please don't buy this phone because if its turned hi... morei tink its heat becouse you r hard user! Don't use wile charging you r the only user that say its heat on this forum! N0 heat essue at all! Its ipad3 only have a heating essue becouse battery is too heavy but the battery of this device is only 1400 mah! Don't manipulate us!
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- AnonD-816
- UGn
- 09 Jul 2012
Now sgd $798. wait till the price fall below $6xx then i buy haha.. My 3 month N9 still good.
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- Robert D.
- mAP
- 09 Jul 2012
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Dwindling Application Support
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As you would expect, once Elop announced the end of Symbian, and moreover, that the Qt application environment would NOT be ported to Windows Phone, he also completely removed any remaining incentive for application developers to support this platform.
Some example of how lackluster developers have become:
* There are 3 flavors of Angry Birds, but despite being a Finnish company that initially developed for Nokia, ROVIA could not even be bothered to deploy Angry Birds Space on this platform once Elop had made his announcement. There is 1 flavor of "Cut the Rope", not 2 as on iOS and Android.
* There is no Netflix application. There WAS a Netflix Queue manager, but after Netflix changed their API, they could not be bothered to change their Symbian application to match.
* There is no IMDB, Fandango or other application to browse movie listings and show times. Google search works somewhat, but is a bit klunky.
* Skype supports voice calls, but not video. MAYBE this will happen now that Skype is owned by Nokia's new sugar daddy, but I would not hold my breath. Meanwhile, there is always Fring or Nimbuzz.
That said, many of Nokia's own applications are very nice, and often unexpectedly useful. For example:
* Nokia Situations, available from Nokia Beta Labs. This switches your profile, desktop background, sound themes, etc based on conditions such as GPS Location, WiFi access point, calendar entries, time of day. I have my phone set up to automatically turn to "Meeting" mode (muted ring tone, vibrations) while in meetings, and Offline once I arrive at my home.
* Nokia Drop, also from Beta Labs. It comes with an accompanying plugin for web browsers such as Firefox, and allows you to "drop" files, URLs, etc to your phone in one click. If browsing the OVI Store from your computer, for instance, just select "Install on Phone", and it happens automatically.
* Wellness Diary, also from Beta Labs. Once it is installed, it uses the accelerometer and some nifty logic to count your steps, similar to a pedometer, and records a diary for you. In combination with the Sports Tracker application (also originally developed by Nokia, but now available for iOS and Android as well), this provides an excellent way to keep track of your physical activity.
* Car Mode, available in the OVI Store. Makes the phone easier to use while driving. The main screen consist of only 3 large buttons: Call, Drive and Music. Can be set up to launch automatically once connected to your Bluetooth car stereo.
* Nokia Battery Monitor, which among other things keeps track of which applications consume power (when active and in the background).
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The Bottom Line
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I realize that a lot of what I have been describing in this review is not going to matter to your typical "causal" phone user, the kind that Steve Jobs managed to wean off their RAZRs and into the "smartphone" world (if you could call the original iPhone a "smartphone", that is). For instance, both Apple and Google seem to be deliberately taking advantage of the fact that most users do not care much about privacy, or "power" features such as proper multi-tasking. Most of those users will likely also be "OK" with the camera quality in other smartphones, and are likely to care more about CPU frequencies, screen sizes, application support, etc.
So admittedly, I am likely in a small to moderate size niche for which this device will appeal. Given that, for what it is, I could not be happier with any other device than what I am with this phone today!
There is always room for more of us!"
Should you be somehow a reasonable person you will admit Tor is right and you may no longer spread hatred on the forum.
Cheers!
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- Robert D.
- mAP
- 09 Jul 2012
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Connectivity
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Symbian has always been ahead with regards to connectivity options. For instance, as previously mentioned, it supports TV connectivity via HDMI, DNLA or plain old TV-out. It also has the most complete Bluetooth stack found anywhere:
* When playing music to your car stereo, track information is also shown (if supported by your stereo)
* Bluetooth HID for keyboard and mouse support since the N95.
* As soon as you pair with your computer, you can instantly browse the phone's filesystem just like any other storage volume.
That said, the 808 brings with it a couple of disappointments compared to previous Nokia phones:
* Dwindling Mac support: Since Apple have removed the iSync application from Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion), Nokia no longer builds iSync plugins for their phones (even for those of us who run older versions of OS X). Also, Nokia Multimedia Transfer does not seem to receive updates anymore, and so does not recognize this phone. This means that synchronizing your phone with the Mac Address Book, Calendar, iTunes and iPhoto is a bit more cumbersome than before. Workarounds exist, but they are a bit klunky - similar to how you would do it on an Android device.
* WebDAV support has been removed from the File Manager. This means that you need 3rd party software (e.g. PaderSync FM, myExplorer, or Davi) to access remote file shares.
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Stuck in Time
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Since Nokia are putting less effort into Symbian these days, we cannot expect to see much in the way of new features in the OS. For instance:
* No 4G (LTE) network support. In fact, this phone only supports speeds up to 14.4 Mbps (HSDPA), not even the 22 Mbps HSPA+ technology that T-Mobile USA (misleadingly) labels "4G". Then again, everything about this phone is less data intensive than on Android: Offline maps/navigation, map data stored as vector data and not images, no automatic (and unwilling?) synchronization of photos with Google+, etc.
* No multi-core CPU support. However, Symbian is very lightweight when it comes to resource use, and unlike Android, does not really NEED any more CPU cores to be usable. Certain tasks, such as video recording, are aided via a dedicated DSP.
* Screen resolution is WVGA (640x360 pixels). Most people won't notice, but it does not look good on phone reviews where the reviewer (literally!) puts the screen under a magnifying glass.
* The standard web browser is getting a bit long in the tooth, and not really performing by today's standards. You can get some speed boost by installing Opera Mobile or Opera Mini, but in that case you loose support for Adobe Flash.
That said, the UI has undergone quite a bit of polish leading up to Nokia Belle (the version of Symbian that's included here). Similar to Nokia's own Maemo/MeeGo OSes as well as Android, home screen widgets are now resizable; a notification panel can be dragged down from the top, etc."
To be continued with part 4.
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- Robert D.
- mAP
- 09 Jul 2012
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The perfect travel companion
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If you are traveling, this is really the one gadget you want to bring with you! Some reasons:
* The camera - obviously! You can safely leave your dedicated camera or camcorder at home.
* Nokia Maps. Free navigation, phenomenal map/POI coverage. Unlike Google Maps, map data is stored in vector format, so it is much less data intensive (both for download and storage). In fact, data can be stored offline beforehand, so you don't need any data connection at all to use it.
* Other preinstalled Nokia applications, such as Nokia Guides (city guides, restaurant guides, etc) and Nokia Public Transport (very nice and useful if looking for public transit options near you).
* Worldwide 3G coverage. This is one of very few phones, like the N8 before it, that has penta-band UMTS network support, meaning it works on any GSM carrier's 3G network worldwide (including both AT&T and T-Mobile USA).
* Multiple tethering options. You can share your phone's internet connection with a laptop or tablet over USB, Bluetooth or WiFi (ordered from most to least power efficient).
* Multiple ways to connect to TV sets to share photos, videos, etc, including HMDI, DNLA, and plain old RGB output for analogue TVs. A dedicated "Nokia Big Screen" application provides a nice media centric interface, and can be paired with and controlled by Wii or PlayStation remote control.
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Symbian is Dead - Long Live Symbian!
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In 2010, Nokia's Board of Directors hired Microsoft puppet Stephen Elop in order to kill Symbian, and turn Nokia into little more than a tool in Microsoft's own last-ditch effort to make their own Windows platform again relevant on mobile phones. So why, then, did they now resurrect Symbian from the grave, only to release their newest flagship phone on it!? This seems utterly confusing, even considering Nokia's typical schizophrenic personality.
The bottom line is that Symbian was their only OS that could handle the massive amount of processing required for decent camera and especially video recording performance. They have spent 5 years on developing PureView, exploiting every advantage that the lightweight Symbian OS offers; it is not trivial to get this working on other platforms, let alone Windows Phone.
Now, they have in fact indicated that while they WILL eventually relase the PureView technology on their Windows Lumia phones - however these will initially NOT have the same pixel resolution and optical performance as the 808. Until processor speeds catch up a bit more, this is likely to remain the case.
So much the better for us Symbian fans. In fact, I'll stick my neck out a little: Symbian is the greatest (mainstream) mobile operating system created so far!
Part of the reason is technical, as described below. But just as important, all of its main rivals (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, even BlackBerry) carry with them somewhat uncomfortable tie-ins to their vendor, whether it be:
* excessive coercion and control of what you can and cannot do with your phone (looking at you, Apple!)
* excessive dependency on vendor-controlled services to transmit and store your personal data. Are you comfortable with the way that Android leads to you to use Google services for contact synchronization, emails, and even implicit uploading of photos (often without your explicit knowledge or consent), especially given Google's ever-more aggressive marketing focus?
Among these, Symbian remains the most open system, where you, the user, remain in control of your device and the data on it. To me, this is just as important as any technical reason."
To be continued with part 3.